Thinking about starting finasteride again, opinions?

[Chris87]

So about this time last year I tried taking propecia .5mg per day. I had sides including ED, watery semen etc. Switched to .25mg per day, sides seemed to get better for a few days then slowly got them again. In total I was probably on propecia for a month, maybe a little less.

I've been thinking about getting back on finasteride lately and sticking it out for at least 2 months. I was thinking of starting with .25 every other day. I know its a low dose, but Id like to test my body to see if it can adjust to any finasteride what so ever or if I'm just doomed to have side effects that dont go away while on it (when i got off the first time, everything did go back to normal eventually).

What do you guys think? Has anyone been through a similar situation and been able to stick to it the second time around? I'm also thinking of getting the finasteride from inhousepharmacy.biz this time, as propecia is just too expensive. I see there are 2 different 1mg boxes on there, they look like they're made by the same company, just at different locations. Is that the case?

My hair loss is just getting to the point where I know if i let it go any longer its going to eventually be very noticeable, and if theres a way to save it I want to do it.

Thanks guys.

 

[Wuffer]

Some guys who had sides on finasteride have had success with a slow introduction of finasteride into their systems.

How you do this is take one pill once a week for two weeks (Monday). Then for the next two weeks, take two pills a week (Monday / Thursday) then three times for two weeks and so on until you are taking it 7 days a week. It will be 14 weeks before you are taking a full dose again, but some believe this slow introduction helps your body cope with the hormonal changes.

This method is better at slowly introducing finasteride to your body, because it takes advantage of the relatively short half-life. Also, taking small doses (such as 0.25mg) inhibits roughly the same DHT as a full dose, so this doesnt help much either.

Best of luck!

 

[Rocky V]

I say go for it. I had high questionability about it as well but what wuffer said is right. you can start with one pill a week.

whether you like it or not finasteride and dutasteride are the most potent treatments against male pattern baldness.

both have sides but its a matter of how often you think about the sides as most of it can be your own mind tricking you.

I will be taking the plunge soon. I'm gonna order in the next few days after my xandrox runs out.

 

[shivers20]

I have starting finasteride again after taking a long break (over 4 years). I started this week at .25mg, been noticing some side effects one week in. Started on Monday with .25mg, skipped Tuesday, .25mg on Wednesday and Thursday, and off on Friday and today, sides are going away as of today. This sucks! good Luck, Let me know if you find the winning formula.

 

[Cali PokerDealer]

I have starting finasteride again after taking a long break (over 4 years). I started this week at .25mg, been noticing some side effects one week in. Started on Monday with .25mg, skipped Tuesday, .25mg on Wednesday and Thursday, and off on Friday and today, sides are going away as of today. This sucks! good Luck, Let me know if you find the winning formula.

I've been on Finpecia (0.5 dose) and combined it with Grapesead extract from the start. Apparently from the other topic we both get it from United. One of us has sides, other doesn't. I thought the stuff was fake since I had no sides besides a random zit here and there when I've never had acne in my life. That already stopped at the end of month one. I'm on month two with no sexual sides. The extract might be useful as it's supposedly an aromatose blocker.

 

[Primo]

1.25mg, 1mg, 0.5mg. 0.25mg..... they're all the same, they all inhibit roughly the same amount of DHT so these lower doses will make no difference whatsoever to side effects. Don't waste your time.

Only when you drop to a tiny dose like 0.05mg will there be a significant drop in DHT inhibition and thus less side effects.

I'm not really sure how you'd cut a Proscar pill neatly in to 0,05mg segments though...

 

[Wuffer]

You can dissolve the pill(s) in an alcohol solution, and take a small dose every day. I'm not exactly sure how to do this, but that is the only accurate way of taking such small doses. However, everybody's bodies respond differently to Finasteride. Some people may still inhibit the same DHT at such small doses, and others won't inhibit any at all. The only way to know for sure is to get your blood tested for DHT.

Just take a regular 1 or 1.25mg dose. If you are experiencing side effects, try the weaning method I suggested. If this doesn't help, you will have to accept that you can't tolerate Finasteride and find another treatment.

 

[TheGrayMan2001]

I noticed a difference in the amount of sides I had at 0.25, .5, and 1.25 mg doses.

However, the fact that it was hard to maintain an erection and the watery sperm and desensitized penis was too much for me. I quit and started on dutasteride 5.5 weeks ago. So far no sides, but I'm still kinda shedding and it's very annoying. I don't think the dutasteride caused the shed--it's from quitting finasteride in early September.

 

[Chris87]

I noticed a difference in the amount of sides I had at 0.25, .5, and 1.25 mg doses.

However, the fact that it was hard to maintain an erection and the watery sperm and desensitized penis was too much for me. I quit and started on dutasteride 5.5 weeks ago. So far no sides, but I'm still kinda shedding and it's very annoying. I don't think the dutasteride caused the shed--it's from quitting finasteride in early September.

Thats interesting. You have no sides with dutasteride? How does that make sense. Its my understanding that dutasteride inhibits the same enzyme as finasteride. How is it possible to have sides on finasteride but not dutasteride?

 

[TheGrayMan2001]

I noticed a difference in the amount of sides I had at 0.25, .5, and 1.25 mg doses.

However, the fact that it was hard to maintain an erection and the watery sperm and desensitized penis was too much for me. I quit and started on dutasteride 5.5 weeks ago. So far no sides, but I'm still kinda shedding and it's very annoying. I don't think the dutasteride caused the shed--it's from quitting finasteride in early September.

Thats interesting. You have no sides with dutasteride? How does that make sense. Its my understanding that dutasteride inhibits the same enzyme as finasteride. How is it possible to have sides on finasteride but not dutasteride?

I am not sure. It is possible I might get some sides in the long run. The forum poster 'DecadeTwo'' (he posts at the other forum HLH) and I both noticed that there were a lot of anecdotal stories about people getting sides on one, but not on the other, yet they would regrow hair either way. It was interesting, and I decided to test it out myself.

My current hypothesis is that the mechanism of action works better for my body with dutasteride. Perhaps because there is MORE dht blocked, my T is higher but my E2 levels are not (ratio-speaking), leading to more normalcy than I had on finasteride, where my T levels were boosted only just enough to make my E2 increase enough to kill my sex drive.

I'm not really sure. Either way I know I have normal sperm, pretty normal sensitivity and drive.

 

[Bryan]

So about this time last year I tried taking propecia .5mg per day. I had sides including ED, watery semen etc. Switched to .25mg per day, sides seemed to get better for a few days then slowly got them again. In total I was probably on propecia for a month, maybe a little less.

Have you tried Proxiphen? Dr. Proctor says it's more effective than Propecia, and without the side effects.

 

[hairhoper]

Wtf? Now you've really lost your mind.

 

[Bryan]

Wtf? Now you've really lost your mind.

To whom are you speaking? :dunno:

 

[Chris87]

So about this time last year I tried taking propecia .5mg per day. I had sides including ED, watery semen etc. Switched to .25mg per day, sides seemed to get better for a few days then slowly got them again. In total I was probably on propecia for a month, maybe a little less.

Have you tried Proxiphen? Dr. Proctor says it's more effective than Propecia, and without the side effects.

Isn't proxiphen just minoxidil? I know there are apparently other ingredients, but as I've seen many times before, people like to add things to minoxidil that supposedly help with hair loss, package it up and sell it as if its some great new thing, when really its just freakin minoxidil and of course theres always some doctor behind it pushing it..because he doesnt make money if you go buy rogaine..but he does make money if you buy his "special formula".

"Doctor isn't it just rogaine?"

"Well....no...its minoxidil BUT...its got uh..saw palmetto in it! and uh...apple cider vinegar!! Much more effective..."
:jackit:

For the record I have tried rogaine foam but found it a hassle to apply everyday, and for the limited results it seems to achieve (if any, as a lot of people say it didn't do anything for them) I don't think its a great option for me. That and I seem to have an increase in heart palpitations while im on it.

I am not sure. It is possible I might get some sides in the long run. The forum poster 'DecadeTwo'' (he posts at the other forum HLH) and I both noticed that there were a lot of anecdotal stories about people getting sides on one, but not on the other, yet they would regrow hair either way. It was interesting, and I decided to test it out myself.

My current hypothesis is that the mechanism of action works better for my body with dutasteride. Perhaps because there is MORE dht blocked, my T is higher but my E2 levels are not (ratio-speaking), leading to more normalcy than I had on finasteride, where my T levels were boosted only just enough to make my E2 increase enough to kill my sex drive.

I'm not really sure. Either way I know I have normal sperm, pretty normal sensitivity and drive.

Interesting, I also notice for some reason I don't often see people complaining about dutasteride sides on here. You also don't hear about "post dutasteride syndrome" I wonder why this is. It was always my assumption that if finasteride was dangerous, dutasteride would be REALLY dangerous. Could this be wrong?

 

[Bryan]

Have you tried Proxiphen? Dr. Proctor says it's more effective than Propecia, and without the side effects.

Isn't proxiphen just minoxidil? I know there are apparently other ingredients, but as I've seen many times before, people like to add things to minoxidil that supposedly help with hair loss, package it up and sell it as if its some great new thing, when really its just freakin minoxidil and of course theres always some doctor behind it pushing it..because he doesnt make money if you go buy rogaine..but he does make money if you buy his "special formula".

Proxiphen is far FAR more than just minoxidil. In fact, Dr. Proctor has said in the past that after removing the minoxidil completely from Proxiphen, it appears to do just as well. That's how potent the other non-minoxidil ingredients are! :shock:

Proxiphen contains a large number of total ingredients (more than a dozen, if I recall correctly). It contains the prescription agents phenytoin and spironolactone, and (probably most important of all) the "turbocharged" SODs TEMPO/TEMPOL and PBN. It also contains numerous other things. To say that Proxiphen is "just minoxidil" is hilarious. Minoxidil is probably its LEAST important ingredient!

 

[israelite]

i must admit prescription proxiphen is very good but expensive. i applyit to the hairline only. i saw no results with xandrox 15 plus. within 1 week of using proxiphen saw tiny hairs. approx 10 days later i added cb and its a killer combo. in my opinion prescription proxiphen shouldbe hairline treatment only for several reasons 1. its a cream and would be very hard to apply it any other region. 2. if your hairloss is excessive its def not worth the high price of over 100 for such a small bottle .

 

[Chris87]

Yeah I'd have to say $100 is too expensive for me personally. Unless its like $100 for a supply that lasts a few months.

 

[Jacob]

So about this time last year I tried taking propecia .5mg per day. I had sides including ED, watery semen etc. Switched to .25mg per day, sides seemed to get better for a few days then slowly got them again. In total I was probably on propecia for a month, maybe a little less.

Have you tried Proxiphen? Dr. Proctor says it's more effective than Propecia, and without the side effects.

And there he is again. The Proctor shill.

 

[Jacob]

Have you tried Proxiphen? Dr. Proctor says it's more effective than Propecia, and without the side effects.

Isn't proxiphen just minoxidil? I know there are apparently other ingredients, but as I've seen many times before, people like to add things to minoxidil that supposedly help with hair loss, package it up and sell it as if its some great new thing, when really its just freakin minoxidil and of course theres always some doctor behind it pushing it..because he doesnt make money if you go buy rogaine..but he does make money if you buy his "special formula".

Proxiphen is far FAR more than just minoxidil. In fact, Dr. Proctor has said in the past that after removing the minoxidil completely from Proxiphen, it appears to do just as well. That's how potent the other non-minoxidil ingredients are! :shock:

Proxiphen contains a large number of total ingredients (more than a dozen, if I recall correctly). It contains the prescription agents phenytoin and spironolactone, and (probably most important of all) the "turbocharged" SODs TEMPO/TEMPOL and PBN. It also contains numerous other things. To say that Proxiphen is "just minoxidil" is hilarious. Minoxidil is probably its LEAST important ingredient!

Dr Proctor has said many things. Nothing..absolutely nothing to back them up with. There are also..supposedly..ingreds in it that are not disclosed. Want to put that on your head? :shock: