The underlying cause of baldness

[Hoppi]

I like this dude

 

[slurms mackenzie]

I miss rogazzle

 

[abcdefg]

The underlying cause of male pattern baldness is a complex combination of genes since male pattern baldness is a polygenic trait which is what makes it so hard to figure out exactly how you get it or where it comes from in your family history. Although I am optimistic and think we will cure male pattern baldness within the next 50 years.
Diet is stupid and its absolutely completely wrong. Without any treatment that completely removes all androgens we dont even know if that alone could completely stop hairloss. Most women I know do not get mature hairliness or any hair loss at all there entire lives so hormones like androgens makes perfect sense not diet since men and women eat the same stuff. I mean its just common sense. How can you explain women that eat bad not losing all there hair? Most women do not lose hair very few ever do even at 50 years old.

 

[s.a.f]

Theres no point in comparing womens hair thinning with m.p.b its 2 totally different things. Have you ever seen a woman walking around with a NW5/6 or 7 horseshoe?

 

[balder]

:shock: :shock: :shock:

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[hairhoper]

That raw meat guy is an absolute retard.

 

[balder]

Why did you post that in this thread balder?

Those docs said detox diets are BS and I tend to agree.

I will edit out that post if you are offended.

 

[balder]

The underlying cause of androgenic baldness is androgens, yes

 

[s.a.f]

Basicly m.p.b is a common occurance and its accepted that its DHT thats killing off the follicles. Often full scalp BALDNESS occurs, usually progressing in that same pattern receeding temples, thinning crown .... the area of non DHT resistant hair follicles. This is a totally different thing to alopecia. Whereas (is there even such a thing as Female Pattern BALDNESS?) its almost always just thinning. Like I said I've never seen a bald female who did'nt have alopecia. Guys also get alopecia but thats not m.p.b.
Both may be hormone related but its like comparing shortness to dwarfism.

 

[Hoppi]

I think detox is very powerful

Stuff like pectin, chlorophyll, sulphur, chelators, etc etc.

Removing excess Candida and ensuring good liver health and a strong gut wall is the very best start IMO.

 

[Hoppi]

I think detox is very powerful

Stuff like pectin, chlorophyll, sulphur, chelators, etc etc.

Removing excess Candida and ensuring good liver health and a strong gut wall is the very best start IMO.

Did that cure your hair loss? Hell no! And it's not going to help anyone elses either, come back once you have cured yourself, and then tell us these miracle remedies, till then save it.....

I didn't mention hair loss in that post, I just said I thought detox was very powerful

 

[bigentries]

I didn't mention hair loss in that post, I just said I thought detox was very powerful

What is detox?
Seriously, what are this magical toxins that we need to get rid off?

All New age crap.

 

[Hoppi]

I didn't mention hair loss in that post, I just said I thought detox was very powerful

What is detox?
Seriously, what are this magical toxins that we need to get rid off?

All New age crap.

Mate, try telling that to your liver. You remove loads of toxins from your body every single day whether you realize that or not. Candida releases them, pectin helps remove them, the liver puts them in your bile for removal, fat stores them, leaky gut (weaker gut wall and greater permeability) let's more into your system.

It might be worth just researching toxins (which basically just means chemicals and compounds that are harmful to the body) released by Candida.

As I say, I do believe there's a good chance I've worked out MOST male pattern baldness (most common reasons IMO are Candida overwhelming the liver with toxins, and harsh genes), but recovery is a long process and I'm not there yet, particularly as my self-control is awful!!

 

[bigentries]

Of course the liver cleans the body. I suppose if it stops doing it, you would get very very sick

But what are "detox" diets? What are the toxins that are not getting cleansed by the body in the first place?

I researched your Candida stuff, and most agree it's taken out of context by the charlatans you have fallen.
You haven't even gone to a doctor because you know they will tell you everything is fine

 

[slurms mackenzie]

Basicly m.p.b is a common occurance and its accepted that its DHT thats killing off the follicles. Often full scalp BALDNESS occurs, usually progressing in that same pattern receeding temples, thinning crown .... the area of non DHT resistant hair follicles. This is a totally different thing to alopecia.

nope it's a category of alopecia.

Whereas (is there even such a thing as Female Pattern BALDNESS?)

Yip it's a pattern, we have the norwood scale (not always accurate) they have the ludwig scale, fpb is such a taboo that you won't see hairloss in women , in come the wigs and allsorts, but you check out the forums and there are lot's of heartbreaking stories out there (also some encouraging regrowth stories)

 

[Hoppi]

Of course the liver cleans the body. I suppose if it stops doing it, you would get very very sick

But what are "detox" diets? What are the toxins that are not getting cleansed by the body in the first place?

I researched your Candida stuff, and most agree it's taken out of context by the charlatans you have fallen.
You haven't even gone to a doctor because you know they will tell you everything is fine

Please don't just make assumptions like that about me.

I have not gone to a doctor because I'm moving to Malta in 2 days lol

Additionally, I want a test that I KNOW will give me accurate results, and that I can afford. If that came along, I would jump at it like a shot

I want the TRUTH about my body, I don't want to deceive myself, but until an alternative comes along Candida seems by far the most likely suspect.

In order to change my mind, I'll need a better suspect for why my digestion, skin and hair all went down the pan at once, and why my digestion is still screwed up. So far, I haven't found one.

Toxins are just harmful substances to the human body. For example, good bacteria in the gut release positive substances when they break down food, such as vitamins. Bad bacteria and stuff like Candida release harmful substances, which we refer to colloquially as toxins. The liver is the body's primary detoxifier, and it puts the toxins in bile so they're removed when you use the loo. Unfortunately, if the liver is overworked, it can't possibly cleanse away all the toxins fast enough, and I have seen studies that show that an overworked liver (logically) leads to hormonal imbalance, as the liver is also the main remover of hormones from the blood stream.

So, I believe science is also right, as a toxic environment would have the same effect on the liver as Candida, in essence.

 

[bigentries]

Please don't just make assumptions like that about me.

I have not gone to a doctor because I'm moving to Malta in 2 days lol

Additionally, I want a test that I KNOW will give me accurate results, and that I can afford. If that came along, I would jump at it like a shot

I want the TRUTH about my body, I don't want to deceive myself, but until an alternative comes along Candida seems by far the most likely suspect.

You don't want the truth, as long as it agree with you. You don't want a doctor to tell you you are wrong.
You already said Candida tests are not "accurate", something tells me you already had one and told you everything is OK

So you don't want to deceive yourself, but you don't want the opinion of an specialist and believe something you read on the internet (and you haven't tested) is the the reason of your non-existent symptoms.

 

[Hoppi]

While you keep putting words in my mouth and making assumptions, it's impossible for me to argue. Because all you're doing is making out I said something and then arguing against it.

I'll discuss this more when you start actually talking to ME instead of a fictional Hoppi who is saying the things you're claiming I'm saying