The underlying cause of baldness

[science]

Soaps and other topical chemicals readily penetrate the skin and build up in the liver causing baldness .
It takes years to get enough of these chemicals through the skin to produce baldness.
The key problem though is that it takes years to get these chemicals out of your liver.
The fact that chemicals go through the skin is not in question, many transdermal patches such as the nicotine patch are widely used, the drug companies have carefully measured the amount of chemicals that will penetrate the skin.
Because these effects are entirely internal, it doesn’t matter where one applies the chemicals, in other words washing your hands is just as detrimental as applying it to your head or other parts of the body.
Simply using natural water, or baking soda is perfectly effective in cleansing the body, because the skin sheds continually.

 

[s.a.f]

:jackit: :thumbdown2:

I guess all those NW1's dont wash then? :shakehead:

Dude you are talking absolute shite!

 

[Bryan]

A better question for the original poster is this: why does it affect ONLY hair at the top of the scalp, and not hair every other place on the body?

 

[Hoppi]

hooray more "crazy" theories like mine! haha

I do agree mate, that environmental toxins harm the liver causing hormonal imbalance. I think you're correct. However, I think internal things can cause the same effect, such as metals or fat hindering the liver, Candida, leaky gut, and possibly even other kinds of intestinal build-up like mucus. Maybe parasites and dysbiosis too...

All these things can overwhelm the liver and flood our bodies with unwanted toxins.

 

[s.a.f]

All these things can overwhelm the liver and flood our bodies with unwanted toxins.

:roll:

Everybody is exposed to toxins, we live in a polluted world but it does'nt cause m.p.b.

And for 99.% of people it does'nt seem to cause any severe health issues either.

 

[anxious1]

when coming up with theories, ask urself these questions.


1. Does it explain why males experience such a high prevalence of pattern baldness, while females only rarely experience it.?

2. Does it explain why scalp hair is affected, and body and face hair is not affected?

3. Does it explain why hair from non-male pattern baldness regions transplanted into male pattern baldness areas grow well, without miniturization?

4. well thats all ive got, but im sure theres more! care to add to this list guys?

 

[Hoppi]

when coming up with theories, ask urself these questions.


1. Does it explain why males experience such a high prevalence of pattern baldness, while females only rarely experience it.?

2. Does it explain why scalp hair is affected, and body and face hair is not affected?

3. Does it explain why hair from non-male pattern baldness regions transplanted into male pattern baldness areas grow well, without miniturization?

4. well thats all ive got, but im sure theres more! care to add to this list guys?

I think the idea is the toxins chuck off your hormones by overwhelming the liver. That's how I understand it anyway

 

[science]

Understand that I’m not saying that baldness is not genetic I am simply saying that some people respond to these toxins in a specific manner.
Has for skepticism about whether or not toxins penetrate the skin, there are actually many articles in the scientific literature showing that it does.
However as I pointed out it takes years to get enough of the toxins through the skin to produce is a effects.

 

[bigentries]

What chemicals?

What toxins?

Seriously, I'm tired of all this appeal to nature crap :thumbdown2:

This theory is probably one of the worst one someone has come up

Now you say that baldness is also genetic to try to save your crackpot theory. Like all the charlatans that sell their snake oils as "boosters" of finasteride and minoxidil

 

[s.a.f]

This forum needs a new section:

Crackpot theories for idiots
Got a theory? - No scientific? evidence post it here

What am I saying?? it already exists viewforum.php?f=23

 

[Hoppi]

Understand that I’m not saying that baldness is not genetic I am simply saying that some people respond to these toxins in a specific manner.
Has for skepticism about whether or not toxins penetrate the skin, there are actually many articles in the scientific literature showing that it does.
However as I pointed out it takes years to get enough of the toxins through the skin to produce is a effects.

hm, yeah you're right. You're completely, completely right, IMO. I think it's all about toxins too, for many people (depending on their level of genetic susceptibility).

But erm.. yeah do remember the other sources of toxins I mentioned. Candida for example floods the body with toxins INTERNALLY, meaning you can avoid all the propylene glycol and E numbers and that that you want, but you'd still be horribly, horribly toxic until you nuke the Candida, and then that gives your liver an actual OPPORTUNITY to cleanse you.

That's my situation I think

 

[Hoppi]

Thing is I also think there is great divide here because many of you didn't experience any health changes around the time of your hair loss. I'm under the impression that both you finfighter and you s.a.f, you both lost hair randomly at a young age like late teens or 20? In your case, my opinion is that it's simply genes. But you need to understand that your situation isn't true for everyone.

 

[TheGrayMan2001]

Thing is I also think there is great divide here because many of you didn't experience any health changes around the time of your hair loss. I'm under the impression that both you finfighter and you s.a.f, you both lost hair randomly at a young age like late teens or 20? In your case, my opinion is that it's simply genes. But you need to understand that your situation isn't true for everyone.

You're clinging to a hope that isn't there. A lot of people attribute it to health changes, but that isn't it. male pattern baldness can start in any man with the genes at any time at any level. A slow, diffuse thinning might not start until age 35 or 40. If it happens to correlate with a decline in health, that's just what it is--a decline in health that happened to take place at the same time hair loss started.

Coincidence, nothing else.

All health related balding issues for men or women are not PATTERN baldness and can usually be fixed pretty quickly.

 

[Hoppi]

Thing is I also think there is great divide here because many of you didn't experience any health changes around the time of your hair loss. I'm under the impression that both you finfighter and you s.a.f, you both lost hair randomly at a young age like late teens or 20? In your case, my opinion is that it's simply genes. But you need to understand that your situation isn't true for everyone.

You're clinging to a hope that isn't there. A lot of people attribute it to health changes, but that isn't it. male pattern baldness can start in any man with the genes at any time at any level. A slow, diffuse thinning might not start until age 35 or 40. If it happens to correlate with a decline in health, that's just what it is--a decline in health that happened to take place at the same time hair loss started.

Coincidence, nothing else.

All health related balding issues for men or women are not PATTERN baldness and can usually be fixed pretty quickly.

This is your opinion and you have to understand that

Just like my post is my opinion.

 

[bigentries]

This is your opinion and you have to understand that

Just like my post is my opinion.

More like your delusion.
You haven't even confirmed it with a doctor

You don't even have the knowledge to believe what you are saying might be true. You are just assuming is true.

We don't have any knowledge also, but we accept what the medical community says to us, because they know way more than we will ever will.
Just like we accept historians, physicists or astronomers.

 

[s.a.f]

Its strange you dont hear of people when they start to lose their eyesight and need spectacles blame it on health issues.

Optician - "I'm afraid you need glasses"
Patient - "Hmm must be all those toxins from soap"

Short sightedness, wrinkles, hairloss, grey hair they're all natural conditions for ageing although some people wityh good genetics dont experience them or experience them later than others. Thats just the way it is.

 

[Hoppi]

Actually all those things can have roots in health as well as genes too! Wrinkles is largely down to collagen thickness which as I know first hand is intimately connected to health and the body's ability to regenerate. I would imagine it's also connected to telomere length which is connected to stress, and stress obviously affects all these things. Eyesight can be influenced by treatment of the eyes and healed partially with supplements like spirulina.

Many degenerative diseases are actually linked to toxin and bacterial/fungal levels causing the body to go haywire, which is why these things are connected to stuff like leaky gut and candida.

A bit of research will I believe pretty much confirm everything I've just said

 

[slurms mackenzie]

Show me one study, one single study that backs up this theory, of toxins leading to male pattern baldness.

Why should we be the ones to search for an imaginary needle in a haystack?

I've come to the conclusion that the biggest side effect of hair loss is apophenia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia

 

[science]

Nevertheless when you have the nerve, as I have to actually try, it works!
And yes it does actually reverse even advanced baldness (takes about three years).

 

[slurms mackenzie]

Nevertheless when you have the nerve, as I have to actually try, it works!
And yes it does actually reverse even advanced baldness (takes about three years).

One study, evidence that's all i ask.

I'm not saying that you didn't reverse some hairloss by changing your diet, some people can do that, but not male pattern baldness.

Do you have any before after photos?