The Role Of Doctors And Modern Medicine In Fighting Hairloss

[bluecyclone]

So I have spent about 12k in 2 years trying to get an answer on rapid diffuse thinning.

I’ve seen most of the ‘top’ hairloss specialists in Chicago. Dr. Konior, Dr. Colavincenzo, Dr. Nadimi, Dr. Ibrahim.

I continue to decline. I am on the big three.

Do you think doctors are as clueless as we are? Do you think it helps to at least have a frequent check in? I swear they don’t care until 1. They can sell you PRP 2. They can sell you a hair transplant

Garbage medicine.

 

[recedingornot87]

What did you spend 12k on? lol

 

[bluecyclone]

Appointments mainly bullsH$t treatments, RU stemoxy. No one know at what the fk to do. All this forum is a way for the worse of to talk Sht on the better off. Like being balder is a value.

 

[bluecyclone]

Appointments mainly bullsH$t treatments, RU stemoxy. No one know at what the fk to do. All this forum is a way for the worse of to talk Sht on the better off. Like being balder is a value.

 

[Tommybommy1363]

A doctors role is to say if you male pattern baldness or not and if you do then prescribe propecia. Pretty much it, not sure why you spent 12k

The best thing your doctor can do for you is refer you to a psychiatrist though

 

[bluecyclone]

That’s the entire point. Anyone can determine male pattern baldness and google Propecia. I mean you do t even have to google its being blasted in ads. But when it doesn’t fking work and does more harm than good it is crickets.

 

[CrownBalding]

12k and didn’t even get a transplant Jesus Christ.

 

[recedingornot87]

12k and didn’t even get a transplant Jesus Christ.

Yeah I would have spent that on a transplant for sure. Will probably start saving up for that once I pay off student loans tbh.

 

[recedingornot87]

Appointments mainly bullsH$t treatments, RU stemoxy. No one know at what the fk to do. All this forum is a way for the worse of to talk Sht on the better off. Like being balder is a value.

Calm down grandpa. My suggestion is just to get a transplant when you can. Its pretty unlikely that you will go NW4-7 in your life so chances of getting to your normal density is pretty high. You just need to find a Dr willing to transplant a diffuse thinner (people have done it before but most doctors reject diffusers right away).

The reason why these doctors won't give you an answer to your hairloss is because there is no cure man. What exactly do you want from them? You are already doing everything that there is to do for hairloss in 2018.

At the end of the day as you age every single male's hair follicles just get more sensitive to androgrens. It seems like you are trying to chase a dream of being burried with absolutely 0 hairloss and this is just unrealistic to expect.

 

[Tommybommy1363]

That’s the entire point. Anyone can determine male pattern baldness and google Propecia. I mean you do t even have to google its being blasted in ads. But when it doesn’t fking work and does more harm than good it is crickets.

There are other things in the differential for hairloss like Chrons disease, alopecia areta, scarring alopecia. So it’s not always straight forward

 

[CrownBalding]

Yo this is what a midlife crisis looks like. If we don’t live out our young lives the way we should, we’ll become bluecyclone.

Tldr: don’t be bluecyclone

 

[Waniciala]

after I got sick with a terrible disease and was cured, I realized that I need to carefully monitor my health!

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

@CrownBalding I agree. I've basically wasted all my youth so far. I already feel like I'm too old to do things or just to pack up and leave. I feel trapped. I wish everyday a time machine existed. I'm 27, and it's like my life is over with out ever really starting.

It depends on your psychology and how much you want it. Many guys on Prozac can't have sex but they probably date and do other things. You can go off it like you can baldness meds.

 

[bluecyclone]

Yo this is what a midlife crisis looks like. If we don’t live out our young lives the way we should, we’ll become bluecyclone.

Tldr: don’t be bluecyclone

You’re not wrong. I’d say for me looking young and feeling healthy let me live too long in my younger life. When the hair changed the impact was worse because it was the first time age seemed to matter. That awareness also made me realize how much I waited on that I needed to rush. The stress of time and uncertainty at my age might not have been worth the very enjoyable young life that I lingered in too long. Even recently as I got close on the next steps my depression got in the way and ruined a chance at a family. I’m still at the edge now where I am able to connect with great women in their 30’s but the hair has been such a recognizable characteristic that the rapid change in density makes me even more anxious. I mean I get a positive comment on my hair just about every day, I’m fortunate as f*** for the hair I have, I know it. I just need to get a better balance where it matters less and real things matter more. Slowing the process will make that possible.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

You’re not wrong. I’d say for me looking young and feeling healthy let me live too long in my younger life. When the hair changed the impact was worse because it was the first time age seemed to matter. That awareness also made me realize how much I waited on that I needed to rush. The stress of time and uncertainty at my age might it have been worth the very enjoyable young life that I lingered in too long. Even recently as I got close on the next steps my depression got in the way and ruined a chance at a family.

Add to that the uncharted but often believed idea that many males for some reason, seem not to mature psychologically with the pack. This was me to a tee even at 48 so when the mirror says something else, it can be devastating. Once I can try to get my family to understand that I didn't go tranny for hair, then paradoxically, I will feel thirty years younger with this hair down to my shoulders now and getting longer which appears to be the new norm for me. For me, youth is more like wine and concerts and weed and cuisine and dancing and maybe once in a while LSD or shrooms and sex without penetration just like sex at 18, lol, when they kept the doors closed but would do other things. The feeling of regained youth is so compelling as to be addictive once achieved so maybe some of you don't want that and you can age gracefully into your hair lines but for people with nothing and nobody, choose hair. There's a reason why I am on so often and it's because all of you are right. Juvenile quality hair is even better than you remember it and transplants cannot compete with watching it all grow back over 25 months since complete baldness now. Your priorities might be right in terms of obsessiveness but only if you are actually interested in things that really work.

Janey

 

[Diffused_confidence]

You’re not wrong. I’d say for me looking young and feeling healthy let me live too long in my younger life. When the hair changed the impact was worse because it was the first time age seemed to matter. That awareness also made me realize how much I waited on that I needed to rush. The stress of time and uncertainty at my age might not have been worth the very enjoyable young life that I lingered in too long. Even recently as I got close on the next steps my depression got in the way and ruined a chance at a family. I’m still at the edge now where I am able to connect with great women in their 30’s but the hair has been such a recognizable characteristic that the rapid change in density makes me even more anxious. I mean I get a positive comment on my hair just about every day, I’m fortunate as f*** for the hair I have, I know it. I just need to get a better balance where it matters less and real things matter more. Slowing the process will make that possible.

This is a brutal reality of hair loss sufferers. I feel the people who get hurt the most are people who wasted their youth. Because balding leads to massive regret of not capitalizing on life when you had hair. It's like you are dying. Hence the phrase "hair is life, if you have no hair you have no life."

 

[CrownBalding]

You’re not wrong. I’d say for me looking young and feeling healthy let me live too long in my younger life. When the hair changed the impact was worse because it was the first time age seemed to matter. That awareness also made me realize how much I waited on that I needed to rush. The stress of time and uncertainty at my age might not have been worth the very enjoyable young life that I lingered in too long. Even recently as I got close on the next steps my depression got in the way and ruined a chance at a family. I’m still at the edge now where I am able to connect with great women in their 30’s but the hair has been such a recognizable characteristic that the rapid change in density makes me even more anxious. I mean I get a positive comment on my hair just about every day, I’m fortunate as f*** for the hair I have, I know it. I just need to get a better balance where it matters less and real things matter more. Slowing the process will make that possible.

Dude, we’ve been through our sht talking and I actually felt sympathy for you until you said the “women in their 30’s” thing. You’re 44 and you acknowledge that you can be with women 10 years younger than you but still going crazy over your minimal hair loss. At some point, we all gotta man up. As soon as I did a few years ago (after I began losing my hair), I started doing way better with women. I used to not be able to take my hat off but now I never wear a hat and have an awesome girlfriend that is exceptional looking. When I first realized I was balding, I didn’t think any of this would be possible.

However, luckily for us, attraction for women is all a mental thing. Aside from the rare case of being absolutely HIDEOUS, you’d be surprised how well some average/below average men can perform socially with both men and women. It’s sad to see someone almost twice my age not recognize that.

i saw a 30+ year old guy running around outside of my college with his shirt off, doing exercises and all that. He was jacked, full head of hair, and better looking than me. All of us in my group (including girls) were making fun of him. I’m sure he gets laid here and there but my guess is that he was the guy that got laid a lot in high school and had no trouble socially when he was young. When he grew up relying on his looks, real people started to fade. Now it felt like he’s desperately trying to hold onto what people valued when he was cool 15 years ago. I actually felt sorry for the guy cause he never outgrew that “gotta look as good as possible and show it off” mindset that we have in our teenage years, and although he looked good, I watched girls make fun of him. Women are surprisingly turned off by that. Even if they’ll fk you once or twice, it becomes really transparent that all you have is your looks and then they usually leave. In some way, you remind me of that guy.

Being confident, funny, intelligent, and unapologetically yourself goes WAY further with women than great looks. As long as a man is not hideous, and even a 45 year old bald man is usually not hideous (it actually looks quite normal for that age), that guy will be fine if they worked out those aspects. Sadly, I don’t think you’ve ever focused on anything outside your looks and now you’re paying the price. However, it’s not too late to change that.

 

[CrownBalding]

Add to that the uncharted but often believed idea that many males for some reason, seem not to mature psychologically with the pack. This was me to a tee even at 48 so when the mirror says something else, it can be devastating. Once I can try to get my family to understand that I didn't go tranny for hair, then paradoxically, I will feel thirty years younger with this hair down to my shoulders now and getting longer which appears to be the new norm for me. For me, youth is more like wine and concerts and weed and cuisine and dancing and maybe once in a while LSD or shrooms and sex without penetration just like sex at 18, lol, when they kept the doors closed but would do other things. The feeling of regained youth is so compelling as to be addictive once achieved so maybe some of you don't want that and you can age gracefully into your hair lines but for people with nothing and nobody, choose hair. There's a reason why I am on so often and it's because all of you are right. Juvenile quality hair is even better than you remember it and transplants cannot compete with watching it all grow back over 25 months since complete baldness now. Your priorities might be right in terms of obsessiveness but only if you are actually interested in things that really work.

Janey

Hold up, what percentage of you went trans to regain your youth vs actually feeling that you were born as the wrong gender? If you went trans for any reason other than feeling that you were born the wrong gender, then you’re very sick and young balding men should not listen to you on here. If you always felt that you were living as the wrong gender, what I just wrote doesn’t apply to you, but the rest does.

Most people, especially men, are fine with aging. The only reason people fight aging so aggressively is because they never matured beyond their youth (e.g. connecting with/feeling respected by other adults of both genders). That has nothing to do with getting old, it has to do with mistakes you made during your “youth” that prevented you from ever feeling satisfied in the first place. I realized I was balding at 21, and I absolutely freaked out. I felt that my youth was ripped from me and I still didn’t get to live out my younger years or will ever find real companionship, similar to how you and cyclone feel. However, I was only 21, yet I was able to learn that there’s a lot more to life and attraction than perfect hair. As soon as I acknowledged that, all of my relationships (sexually, professionally, emotionally) improved as my confidence grew.

Young guys, DO NOT LISTEN TO THESE TWO, they will mess your mental up. Find unattractive role models that have high social status with both genders and figure out why they attract people. For me it was comedians like Patrice O’Neal and Bill Burr who are both generally “unattractive” (Burr is bald) but women love them and men respect them.

 

[Diffused_confidence]

Dude, we’ve been through our sht talking and I actually felt sympathy for you until you said the “women in their 30’s” thing. You’re 44 and you acknowledge that you can be with women 10 years younger than you but still going crazy over your minimal hair loss. At some point, we all gotta man up. As soon as I did a few years ago (after I began losing my hair), I started doing way better with women. I used to not be able to take my hat off but now I never wear a hat and have an awesome girlfriend that is exceptional looking. When I first realized I was balding, I didn’t think any of this would be possible.

However, luckily for us, attraction for women is all a mental thing. Aside from the rare case of being absolutely HIDEOUS, you’d be surprised how well some average/below average men can perform socially with both men and women. It’s sad to see someone almost twice my age not recognize that.

i saw a 30+ year old guy running around outside of my college with his shirt off, doing exercises and all that. He was jacked, full head of hair, and better looking than me. All of us in my group (including girls) were making fun of him. I’m sure he gets laid here and there but my guess is that he was the guy that got laid a lot in high school and had no trouble socially when he was young. When he grew up relying on his looks, real people started to fade. Now it felt like he’s desperately trying to hold onto what people valued when he was cool 15 years ago. I actually felt sorry for the guy cause he never outgrew that “gotta look as good as possible and show it off” mindset that we have in our teenage years, and although he looked good, I watched girls make fun of him. Women are surprisingly turned off by that. Even if they’ll fk you once or twice, it becomes really transparent that all you have is your looks and then they usually leave. In some way, you remind me of that guy.

Being confident, funny, intelligent, and unapologetically yourself goes WAY further with women than great looks. As long as a man is not hideous, and even a 45 year old bald man is usually not hideous (it actually looks quite normal for that age), that guy will be fine if they worked out those aspects. Sadly, I don’t think you’ve ever focused on anything outside your looks and now you’re paying the price. However, it’s not too late to change that.

It sounds like you had social groups that helped you find a relationship. Truth is that often times men in their 30s start falling off the grid completely. Your friends start getting married, starting a family, and shifting priorities. So now you need to basically find a relationship without those groups which is a lot harder if you are not conventionally attractive.

 

[Diffused_confidence]

@CrownBalding I completely understand everything you just said. But your example kind of threw me. What was funny about a ~ 30 year old man, outside, with no shirt, excersing and mind his own business. Would not that actually show confidence and that he tries to take care of himself.

Obviously I wasn't there so of course I wouldn't understand the nuisances of the story. If I seen a dude, exercising/running at any age in Summer with out a shirt I wouldn't think twice about if that's all it was on the surface. It might actually make feel like I should be excersing.

Setting that aside I feel my life is over and I'm 27, turning 28 soon. I have a long back story but no point in sharing it. Some things really were out of my control, especially early on. But I've wasted all my youth and soon it will be over. I really wish I could just go back 5 years so badly. Not a day goes by that I don't have that thought. I try so hard to move forward, but I just can't seem to. I have always wanted to move from where I am. Why the f**k don't I just get in my vehicle and drive away. I don't know why I didn't 5 years ago, stupid I guess. I don't know why I don't now. I almost feel I wasted my chance and I'm too old.

Sorry to unload all this. And I stopped myself from going on or I could have said a lot more. I'm glad it sounds like you figured some of this stuff out earlier on. It sounds like you're going to do ok, man.

Have you at least stabilized on .25mg finasteride?