THE ONLY KNOWN CURE FOR STOPPING BALDNESS.

[ronaldkia]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald

the only known way that has proven to put male pattern baldness to a halt completely is by castration. why do yall think that is??

...Some people have long believed the age old theory that it is infact sexual frustration that leaves too much androgen down there. (So by castration, theyre would be no more sexual desire/frustration/feeling cranky and nervous all day and night). The idea was suppressed by some people because they were at first too ambarassed by it, but would only later admit that it would be a possibility.


What would be your theory on the reason castration stops male pattern baldness?

 

[ang_99]

Kind of wonder why myself, also did you ever notice that most gay guys have all their hair? Not sure if its really true but it seems that way....

 

[Bert]

Kind of wonder why myself, also did you ever notice that most gay guys have all their hair? Not sure if its really true but it seems that way....

Ha ha I'm pretty sure gay guys go bald my ex g/f had a gay friend and he was bald as anything. I'm pretty sure gay guys have the same frustrations etc.

I've heard that if the balding process has already began than castration won't stop the process.

 

[Aplunk1]

What if you cut off one testicle. Would that significantly reduce/slow down the balding process?

 

[Axon]

There is no theory. The fact is that if you cut off your balls, your testosterone production drops off significantly and your estrogen goes up, to the point where you typically do not lose any additional hair.

 

[ronaldkia]

okay so axon then your saying that men who don't suffer from male pattern baldness, have high estrogen levels?

 

[Axon]

No, I'm saying this and nothing more:

If you cut off your balls, your testosterone levels drop, your estrogen levels rise, and your hair stops falling out to a certain extent.

Men who don't suffer from male pattern baldness generally do not simply because their follicles are more resistant to the male pattern baldness mechanism.

 

[ronaldkia]

and why would men suffering from male pattern baldness have too high of testosterone levels? what would be common sense in reason why a men suffering from male pattern baldness would keep his testosterone levels high as compared to men who lowers them regularly...usually this is after sex...so would you feel saying that sexual frustruation is the cause, woud be fair?

infact, many sports team or coaches have their athletes stay off sex a few months, weeks, or night before so their testosterone levels and aggresiveness (crankiness basically) would stay high for competition.

 

[Aplunk1]

Oh, please.
Let's not get into this argument again.

 

[Axon]

and why would men suffering from male pattern baldness have too high of testosterone levels? what would be common sense in reason why a men suffering from male pattern baldness would keep his testosterone levels high as compared to men who lowers them regularly...usually this is after sex...so would you feel saying that sexual frustruation is the cause, woud be fair?

infact, many sports team or coaches have their athletes stay off sex a few months, weeks, or night before so their testosterone levels and aggresiveness (crankiness basically) would stay high for competition.

We don't have "too high" test levels. They're typically within range of any non-sufferer of male pattern baldness. It's just that our hair follicles, for whatever reason, are vulnerable (at an earlier age) to the mechanism of male pattern baldness. Why that is, I couldn't tell you.

But hey, believe what you want. I'm just dropping the facts, as usual. Activities, lifestyle - these things do not affect male pattern baldness, save certain hormone altering medications. The simple fact is you were born with the gene that basically ***-raped your hair. It's nothing you did or didn't do - it's just the cards you were dealt.

 

[Aplunk1]

... The simple fact is you were born with the gene that basically ***-raped your hair. It's nothing you did or didn't do - it's just the cards you were dealt.

This is the best quote ever. A gene that basically "***-raped" your hair... brilliant.

 

[jambri]

I think probably all men suffer from male pattern baldness, but men with naturally thicker hair do not notice the thinning / hair loss until they are much older.

 

[Aplunk1]

I think probably all men suffer from male pattern baldness, but men with naturally thicker hair do not notice the thinning / hair loss until they are much older.

Perhaps, that is a good remark you just made. Both my older and my younger brother have thin hair, and I inherited some very thick hair.

They appeared to start losing hair around 18, whereas I started to lose hair around 19.5--became noticeable at 20. Crazy.

 

[ronaldkia]

no, that cant be right, chinese people originally have thick spiky hair, but most chinese young adults today have serious male pattern baldness.

 

[eliazush]

Hi,
I think castration will bring DHT levels to zero, but I find two problems they remain problematic:
1. Balding is not only a DHT problem. We know there are more elements involved here. Many guys take propecia or even avodart and still keep going bald.
2. Propecia and Avodart only takes away the cause of losing hair (in those guys for whom DHT is the crusial cause) but WON"T stimulate directly hair regrowth. The scared or impaired follicles many times keep staying minimized and lifeless so even castraion won't bring back to life those follicles....

 

[VWdude]

I rather have a full head of hair and 2 working testicles...

cure or no cure, one thing is for sure. My balls are staying put. To go to that extreme is way too much.

 

[Bryan]

There is no theory. The fact is that if you cut off your balls, your testosterone production drops off significantly and your estrogen goes up...

Axon, do you have a reference or citation for the claim that estrogen goes UP after castration? I'm sitting here scratching my head over how that could happen, since testosterone goes down by 90% or more, and estrogen comes from the aromatization of testosterone...

Bryan

 

[Bryan]

Hi,
I think castration will bring DHT levels to zero...

Uh....nope. In one study I have, castration reduced DHT levels by an average of about 70% or so, much like finasteride. Testosterone levels (UNLIKE finasteride) were reduced by around 90% - 95%.

Bryan

 

[Axon]

There is no theory. The fact is that if you cut off your balls, your testosterone production drops off significantly and your estrogen goes up...

Axon, do you have a reference or citation for the claim that estrogen goes UP after castration? I'm sitting here scratching my head over how that could happen, since testosterone goes down by 90% or more, and estrogen comes from the aromatization of testosterone...

Bryan

Mmm. Not so much. I have assumption from a personal experience; a second or third cousin injured his hips and groin in a car accident and had them removed. Anyway, he grew a serious set of man tits. Seems like his est went up, but it could have been the dramatic loss of test as well, eh?

EDIT: It seems you are correct, feminization effects will not be heavily dramatic without the use of additional hormones.

 

[iamnaked]

Hi,
I think castration will bring DHT levels to zero...

Uh....nope. In one study I have, castration reduced DHT levels by an average of about 70% or so, much like finasteride. Testosterone levels (UNLIKE finasteride) were reduced by around 90% - 95%.

Bryan

How is this possible if DHT is produced from testosterone? This seems very unlikely unless castration suddenly triggers a vast increase in the production of 5-AR. You'd expect them to go down in equal levels, ceteris paribus.