The link between baldness and strokes tells cure

1derphull

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willywonka said:
Why would I try to fool? This should be interesting.

T/D,
I never said "fool", I said BS. There is a difference.


You're making inaccurate statements about "dht's ability to harm our scalp hair in it's waxy buildup around our follicle"...it's completely false. I explained it simplistically. Are you going to expand on your "theory"?

Are you going to post those studies you keep touting?
 

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The literature concerning the biologic processes ofbaldness is just as varied as the studies of baldness and CHD. Baldness is a prominent characteristic of the aging process in men. We found that 42.5 percent of the men were completely bald, and this agrees with other published results. The development of baldness requires the male sex hormone testosterone. The literature suggests several possible explanations for the links between baldness and CHD; testosterone may be one such link. Smoking's relation to testosterone is one possible explanation for this link. An increase intestosterone levels has been shown to be present in those who smoke. Other studies have found no relation between serum testosterone levels and baldness; thus, they propose that scalp follicles have increased sensitivity to testoster-one. Nitric oxide may be another possible link between baldness and CHD. It has been proposed that deficientproduction of scalp nitric oxide is related to baldness. Moreover, nitric oxide has been associated with controlof hypertension, a determinant of CHD (19). There maybe a link between genes that control baldness and those that cause atherosclerosis and CHD. Identification of a gene for baldness may help us to identify a gene for atherosclerosis. We were unable to find any publications that could explain why the progression of baldness maybe related to CHD. At best, we could speculate that men who rapidly lose their hair are genetically or hormonallydifferent from those who lose their hair more slowly. We believe that the two strengths of our study, baldness assessment before the CHD events and a 24to 30-year follow-up period, compensate for any mis-classification due to the baldness examiners that occurred in 1956 and 1962. If these data are confirmed with resultsfrom additional studies, baldness should be considered a marker for CHD, but not its cause. As a marker, progression of baldness may help us to elucidate the etiology of CHD. It may also shed light on why men havea higher rate of coronary disease than premenopausalwomen. Perhaps a search for the chromosomal location of the baldness gene will also highlight the location of animportant atherosclerosis gene. Future research on baldness and CHD should include multiple measures of baldness over time in each man prospectively, and control for associated risk factors for CHD. The above analysis also suggests that the background rate of CHD associated with baldness should be taken into account when evaluating the possible cardiovascular toxicity of hairgrowth products.
 

willywonka

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I looked further into NITRIC OXIDE and found a possable link.Apparently NO lowers blood pressure.
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From a clinical perspective, Patrick Vallance outlined the far-reaching implications of nitric oxide for treating various forms of cardiovascular diseases, which account for almost half the deaths in Britain. A vast range of research is aimed at translating the laboratory and animal findings about nitric oxide for the benefit of the cardiovascular and heart disease sufferers.

His group used healthy volunteers to test whether nitric oxide acted on the human cardiovascular system in an identical way to that predicted from in vitro and animal work in the laboratory. The study entailed what has become a new class of drug based on N-monomethyl-arginine (L-NMMA - an inhibitor of the NOS enzyme). This drug is one of a class of inhibitors that can be used to explore what happens when nitric oxide production is blocked. In the experiment, one forearm of a volunteer was injected with L-NMMA. The blood flow was then compared with that of the other arm. As L-NMMA was infused gradually, blood flow decreased to a half of that in the control arm.

Complications caused by problems with endothelial production of nitric oxide arise from a variety of causes: the fragile layer of endothelial cells are prone to damage, from among other things, high blood pressure, high sugar in diabetes, furring up with cholesterol and other lipids, and the effect of smoking
 

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I can see from reading the above portion of medical literature how minoxidil is basicly a replacement for NO. So, there's a link between NO-heart disease-hair loss. With loss of NO production in the scalp the microvessels constrict allowing for chloresterols to damper the blood/nutrition the follicles see from the microvessels. The microvessels themselves would start to wither away .This also explains why stopping minoxidil puts hairloss back in progress. Its as if we took away the nitric oxide.
Note: "furring up with chloresterols"
 
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Willy, Minoxidil grows hair not because of the fact that it restores circulation. It grows hair because it has some inherent hypertrichotic properties, most likely because it opens potassium channels. Most other PCO's (potassium channel openers) grow hair as well, while they don't promote blood circulation.
 

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tupperware said:
Willy, Minoxidil grows hair not because of the fact that it restores circulation. It grows hair because it has some inherent hypertrichotic properties, most likely because it opens potassium channels. Most other PCO's (potassium channel openers) grow hair as well, while they don't promote blood circulation.
More likely minoxidil has multifaceted properties. I didn't say it only did vasodilation.The study below says everything.
 

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This Dutch study was conducted to determine whether Minoxidil has an inhibitory effect on certain enzymes involved in collagen synthesis.
Collagen is the most abundant protein in the human body and provides stability and, to some extent, elasticity. It’s a common structural protein that can be found in bone, skin, tendons and blood vessels and gives both strength and flexibility to these biological structures. The protein can be visualized like a rope twined from 3 smaller ropes. This triple-helix structure gives collagen its properties with each “rope†consisting of many amino acids in a string. The most common amino acids present are proline and glycin, but hydroxyproline and hydroxylysine can also be found, the latter two provide stability to the helix through hydrogen bonds and cross-linking.

In men suffering from androgenetic alopecia, male pattern baldness (male pattern baldness), it’s common to find perifollicular fibrosis (PF). Perifollicular fibrosis is when the collagen surrounding the follicle becomes rigid and forms a scar-like capsule around the follicle, cutting it off from circulation, and thus nutrition.

This condition is time dependent, the closer to the onset of male pattern baldness the less PF-affected follicles you will find. This then increases with the passing of time and is why long-term hair loss sufferers generally respond poorly to hair loss treatments.

PF can also occur from mechanical trauma, like when you pluck (or wax) your hair. When the anagen hair is pulled up from the follicle it can cause damage and formation of scar tissue. This is why frequently plucked hairs may grow smaller and smaller with time, because it gets less and less nutrition.

Collagen in these rigid formations often shows a higher content of hydroxyallysine cross-links. Hydroxyallysine is a modified version of hydroxylysine, hydroxylysine is in turn formed through the action of lysyl hydroxylase (LH).

When lysyl hydroxylase is inhibited, hydroxylysine isn’t formed, and therefore no hydroxyallysine is either, this then leads to an unstable triple-helix and weak collagen structures. This happens in scurvy, a condition caused by a lack of vitamin C, since lysyl hydrolyxase needs vitamin C to work.

It has been suggested that if LH could be inhibited to form less hydoxylysine in fibrose tissue, it would then become less rigid and would not cut off the nutrition to the follicle. Some scientists have postulated that minoxidil works through this exact mechanism, by stopping follicular fibrosis and by providing the affected follicles with more nutrition by stimulating angiogenesis (the formation of blood vessels).

This study examined minoxidil’s inhibitory effect on LH and how that affected collagen synthesis.

The study found that minoxidil reduced LH1 much more than LH2b and LH2b, and more than LH3 in a time- and dose-dependent manner in fibroblasts in vitro (in a Petri dish), but still had no effect on the formed hydroxyallysine cross-linked in the collagen.

A possible explanation for this is that minoxidil had the most suppressive effect on LH1, which is thought to have a preference for triple-helical lysine residues. To reduce the number of hydroxyallysine cross-links one needs to only reduce hydroxylation of lysine at the end of the proteins, the telopeptides, and very little in the helix itself. The hydroxylase thought to be responsible for this is LH2b, and that wasn’t suppressed as much by the minoxidil. One theory is that LH2b is only needed in small amounts to hydroxylate enough telopeptide lysine residues, and/or that it does so in conjuction with LH3.

The researchers concluded that it’s unlikely that minoxidil works by acting as an anti-fibroticum, but they did confirm minoxidil’s inhibitory effect on the lysyl hydroxylases. The study also provided additional information about the different lysyl hydroxylases, which may prove useful in further studies.
 

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Thanks for clarifying that willy.

If you like the Nitric Oxide route, look into NANO, PBN and TEMPOL.
 

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What seems to be missing from this discussion is an antagonist or irritant that promote"plaque" formation. Tooth tartar/plaque requires bacteria, sugar (nourishment), changed saliva composition, and possibly an "F factor". In the scalp the "imbalance" may energize an immune response causing the body to attack the hair follicle via peri(meter)-follicular inflammation.
 

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The sugars are not an issue as far as supply, neither is bacteria. This supports the idea that westerners consume alot more sugar than asians and have higher rates of diabetes which means more sugars in the scalp tissue and thus higher amounts of inflammation as well.
 
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