michael barry
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This is a good post from another site that was an answer to a shill trying to sell this hunk of junk, that supposedly has "been in FDA studies" for about 4 years now, whose company somehow duped a few news organizations that it was some "amazing discovery". The shill cited some ridiculous tests that were performed on the laser comb that proved that "it regrew some hair". Thing is, it regrew MUCH LESS than minoxidil or finasteride.....................
http://www.hairlosstalk.com/download/La ... eport1.pdf This "study" only took place for SIX MONTHS. Therein lies the rub. One year (and really 18 months) are the amounts of time to measure efficacy of alopecia indications. The study only measured a ONE CENTIMETER patch of scalp and the average increase of hairs in that study per sqare centimeter was 12 whole hairs (wow). One inch is 2.54 centimeters. The studies I cite below are of one square inch areas. So if we multipy those 12 hair increases by 2.54 you get between 31 and 32 extra hairs per square inch. You will see this is much less than what the other two treatments provided per square inch.
For instance, we NOW know that propecia sees big increases in hair counts for the first TWO YEARS. The greatest increase over haircount with propecia is at the TWO YEAR MARK. Then haircounts start to fall slightly each year thereafter. At the end of five years men had on average a 277 higher hair count on propecia than on placebo on a one-inch patch of scalp at the top of the head. 65% of men studied either maintained haircount or had more hair at year five on propecia. All placebo users lost hair. This info is provided by the INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY OF HAIR RESTORATION SURGEONS here http://www.ishrs.org/articles/hair-loss-finasteride.htm. and included 1,553 men.
Minoxidil's performance over 5 years is here http://www.hairlosstalk.com/download/mi ... esults.pdf. In it you will see that the biggest increase with minoxidil is at year one with a 273 haircount increase over baseline, and then a decrease in the haircount. However, even at YEAR FIVE, there is a 211 per square inch hair increase over baseline at year one. Minoxidil at YEAR FIVE still gives a guy 211 more hairs than we started using it. This study only used 2 and 3% minoxidil. Not 5% that you can buy over the counter. The study recommends a twice a day application because subjects who used it twice a day in the study had more success than those who used it only once. The study had 126 men.
So lets review shall we. You get 277 more hairs per square inch at year 5 with propecia if youre the average of over 1500 people studied. You get 211 more hairs per square inch at year 5 with minoxidil if youre the average responder of 126 people studied. But with the "amazing" laser comb you get on average 32 more hairs per square inch at 6 months, and proboably less than that over five years, if youre the average responder of a PITIFUL LITTLE STUDY THAT ONLY USED 35 men and 7 women for a whopping total of 42 test subjects!!!!!!!
Id also like to add that this "study" was conducted by a one John Satino and Michael Markou, D.O. What does "DO" mean???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????well, if you scroll down to the end of the articl you will see that John Satino is the "clinical DIRECTOR and laser safety OFFICER" at "The Laser Hair and Scalp Clinic" in Clearwater, Florida. Clearwater is close to Boca Raton, birthplace of the Hairclub Scam by the way.
BUT WHAT INTERESTS ME IS THE """"D.O""""" bullsh3t. THEY ARE NOT EVEN DOCTORS PERFORMING THE "study" of 35 men. They arent Ph.d's. at all. They are performing a "study" on a device they sell THEMSELVES GOSHDAMMIT. How can you fall for this?
By the way, copper peptides, in a FDA phase 2 study, outperformed minoxidil, and proanthocyandrins do about as well. Proanthocyandrins are in apple juice and apple cider vinegar and grape seed extract. I literally believe that soaking your damned head in apple juice might be better than a silly laser light device that might, according to hairbiologist and cloning researcher Dr. Kevin J. McElwee, do long term damage to your follicle DNA if used for years.
http://www.hairlosstalk.com/download/La ... eport1.pdf This "study" only took place for SIX MONTHS. Therein lies the rub. One year (and really 18 months) are the amounts of time to measure efficacy of alopecia indications. The study only measured a ONE CENTIMETER patch of scalp and the average increase of hairs in that study per sqare centimeter was 12 whole hairs (wow). One inch is 2.54 centimeters. The studies I cite below are of one square inch areas. So if we multipy those 12 hair increases by 2.54 you get between 31 and 32 extra hairs per square inch. You will see this is much less than what the other two treatments provided per square inch.
For instance, we NOW know that propecia sees big increases in hair counts for the first TWO YEARS. The greatest increase over haircount with propecia is at the TWO YEAR MARK. Then haircounts start to fall slightly each year thereafter. At the end of five years men had on average a 277 higher hair count on propecia than on placebo on a one-inch patch of scalp at the top of the head. 65% of men studied either maintained haircount or had more hair at year five on propecia. All placebo users lost hair. This info is provided by the INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY OF HAIR RESTORATION SURGEONS here http://www.ishrs.org/articles/hair-loss-finasteride.htm. and included 1,553 men.
Minoxidil's performance over 5 years is here http://www.hairlosstalk.com/download/mi ... esults.pdf. In it you will see that the biggest increase with minoxidil is at year one with a 273 haircount increase over baseline, and then a decrease in the haircount. However, even at YEAR FIVE, there is a 211 per square inch hair increase over baseline at year one. Minoxidil at YEAR FIVE still gives a guy 211 more hairs than we started using it. This study only used 2 and 3% minoxidil. Not 5% that you can buy over the counter. The study recommends a twice a day application because subjects who used it twice a day in the study had more success than those who used it only once. The study had 126 men.
So lets review shall we. You get 277 more hairs per square inch at year 5 with propecia if youre the average of over 1500 people studied. You get 211 more hairs per square inch at year 5 with minoxidil if youre the average responder of 126 people studied. But with the "amazing" laser comb you get on average 32 more hairs per square inch at 6 months, and proboably less than that over five years, if youre the average responder of a PITIFUL LITTLE STUDY THAT ONLY USED 35 men and 7 women for a whopping total of 42 test subjects!!!!!!!
Id also like to add that this "study" was conducted by a one John Satino and Michael Markou, D.O. What does "DO" mean???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????well, if you scroll down to the end of the articl you will see that John Satino is the "clinical DIRECTOR and laser safety OFFICER" at "The Laser Hair and Scalp Clinic" in Clearwater, Florida. Clearwater is close to Boca Raton, birthplace of the Hairclub Scam by the way.
BUT WHAT INTERESTS ME IS THE """"D.O""""" bullsh3t. THEY ARE NOT EVEN DOCTORS PERFORMING THE "study" of 35 men. They arent Ph.d's. at all. They are performing a "study" on a device they sell THEMSELVES GOSHDAMMIT. How can you fall for this?
By the way, copper peptides, in a FDA phase 2 study, outperformed minoxidil, and proanthocyandrins do about as well. Proanthocyandrins are in apple juice and apple cider vinegar and grape seed extract. I literally believe that soaking your damned head in apple juice might be better than a silly laser light device that might, according to hairbiologist and cloning researcher Dr. Kevin J. McElwee, do long term damage to your follicle DNA if used for years.
