Temples/vertex maintenance (PICS) - advice please (updated)

[maroon]

I didn't mean to make anyone feel bad - I'm not sure why i pointed out I have had some good genes on here - I was just trying to make myself feel better I guess; not even thinking how it may look to you that are trying to help me.

Sorry - was stupid.

I don't feel THAT bad about my hairloss right now (hence why im probably moaning like a little b**ch about the potential sides), but it's not getting better. I've looked in the mirror like 4 times A DAY since my first recent post here. I can see this quickly becomming and obsession of sorts - and YES - taking something to prevent it (like finasteride) would give me the feeling I'm DOING something to prevent it, and it would take my worries off it.

Taugenichts - don't even say this stuff about killing yourself. Is it really that bad? If so, it might help for you to open up to a friend you can trust about it, or see a professional psychologist. You hair looks GOOD to me. In fairness our hairloss kindof looks similar - and I'm happy with the way mine is at the moment (hence my main wish is to maintain - not regrow).

I've not had the balls to wet my hair and use a flash yet - but to be fair I think most people's hair would look a bit rough wet under flash ( ? )

Luckily for me; walking around with hair wet and a lamp strapped to my head isnt fashionable yet (and who cares much about fashion anyway).

It looks OK when its normal & towel dried and so does yours. You should definately not be suicidal at this stage. If you'd like to chat sometime you can PM me your MSN if you use it.

I will keep you updated on my decisions and actions.

Anyone else have opinions regarding propecia and it's effects on the body?

 

[maroon]

And please don't draw this red line between "the bald guys" and "the guys with some hair".

You are not "just some bald guy" offering topicals. You have in fact helped me a lot already. I apologised about moaning like a little girl above - as I didn't realise.

We're all men with hairloss at different stages - trying to help each other out. I've obviously craved more help than I've given at this point - but assuming I stick with a regiment of some sort I'll try to hang out trying to help. Them being at early stages of balding or NW7 - don't matter.

 

[YoungAndThin]

Hey don't worry man. Your hair looks good and you seem to have caught it in the early stages.

I'm 22 myself and noticed I was losing hair when I was about 20. I panicked right away and spent so much time in front of the mirror examining my hair. Don't worry it's a phase and it will pass.

Once I started propecia it kind of put my mind at ease.

 

[Guest]

maroon don't listen to these people !!!

there really is no need to get on propecia yet! it's a serious drug that gets none of the respect (in terms of effects on hormones) that it really deserves on this forum... because we're all used to taking it people forget that it serious;y messes with nature...

you're in a good position hair-wise, the loss is negligible, hardly noticeable...i think the positives you'd get from a DHT inhibitor like Propecia or avodart are too minimal to be worth the risk!

Lol, this is what I like most. According to your opinion we should just go bald, because we "mess with nature" when we treat our hair loss...... :roll:

 

[CCS]

taking a bath messes with nature too! soap is chemicals! it gets absorbed through your skin!

 

[Guest]

wow. When I first read this thread, I saw two guys with almost all their hair giving each other advice and thinking a bald guy like me is offering them too many topicals. One of you even said, "I was handed all the good genes, so I guess I had to get something bad." That made me jelous, since I have a lot of bad genes besides hair loss. Now just on the next page you guys are talking about depression and stress and suicide. And one of you is 6'3". What caused this change?

Well, actually when maroon talked about "good genes" i thought the same. i am also tall (6'2''), probably goodlooking, phisically healthy and in top shape, large c***, above average intelligence, free to choose any career with financial support by parents, living in a wealthy and safe western country,....... I guess about 98% people of my age in the world from Lebanon, China or Africa would do ANYTHING for having the possibilites I have. Yet I am sitting here, lonely, depressive and suicidal....... Damn, even my hair is better than the hair of 90% of the people posting in Sucess Stories! Thinking how little I have made out of all these possibilities makes me even more suicidal and self-hating. I really shouldn´t be here. Apart from my hair loss the only bad genes I have are my eyes (have to wear contacts and glasses) and rather many birthmarks (mainly on my back or stomache, yet ugly and higher skin cancer risk).


maroon, thx for your kind words, I am already seeing a professional psychologist, though my biggest concern is my hair at the moment. Keep us updated about your decision and choose wisely. Everything has its disadvantages, you may be a bad responder to finasteride and get only sides. It is up to you!

 

[maroon]

A quick update.

I've still not started any kind of "proper" treatment - I've just carried on using nizoral about 3 times a week.

The odd thing is that I'm literally not losing ANY hair at the moment - not even the usual 100 a day. If I am I'm not noticing it. I always used to. Also if I pull through my hair there is rarely even a single hair there.

It's been like this for the past 3 weeks now!

Since I was 18/19 I've always lost considerate amounts in the shower and when i style my hair. This worried me back then and up until recently.

Now there's nothing. I guess this is positive - but it could also be to do with the shedding cycles or whatever. ( ? )

There is some bad news. I wet my hair in the shower today and viewed it under the bathroom light in the mirror; combing it around trying to spot thinning. It wasn't very hard.

It seems to be thinning "from the end of the vertex swirl" and forwards through my crown - mostly on the left hand side. It seems to stick religiously to the male pattern baldness area and not at the sides of the head.

I'm going to wait for a bit to see if my "normal" shedding starts again and if it gets worse. As soon as it does - I'll be seeing my GP for a finasteride prescription.

Cheers all - just wanted to update you.

- Can styling products accelerate hairloss at all in any way? I've not used the styling cream I usually use the past month very much - could this be related to very little shedding of hair?

 

[maroon]

I've taken some pictures with my hair styled - this may help determine my current Norwood. Yellow squares show nose/eyebrows.

The pictures were taken with a flash.

Front:

Right:

Left:

Read my post above as well.

 

[MPBWarrior]

maroon, i don´t think you´re Norwood anything!! only if u have a family history of male pattern baldness should u be worried about hairloss from those pictures.

 

[maroon]

maroon, i don´t think you´re Norwood anything!! only if u have a family history of male pattern baldness should u be worried about hairloss from those pictures.

Did you check out the photos at page 1?

My hair is a lot thinner now - what else could it be? Also my hairline has definately "matured" - which is due to male pattern baldness ( ? ).

 

[stuglue]

Maroon i've checked out your pictures on page 1,i seriously don't think you hav anything to worry about,your hair looks perfectly normal.

 

[maroon]

Well this is great news i suppose. Thx.

I do however have what appears to be diffuse thinning around the vertex forward through my whole crown. Ouch.

If I wet my hair and spike it up I can see lots and lots of scalp when i view it under the bathroom light. I can tell u that if I wet my hair.. spiked it up... and then took a photo using a flash it would look so bad I might actually feel :x

It did not use to be like this - and if I spike the back/sides of my head the same type of thinning is not apparent in those areas.

This "diffuse" appearance I've only noticed since I cut my hair pretty damn short and then let it grow back out recently.
How long does it take hair to "recover" from a haircut that has used thinning scissors or whatever they are called? My last haircut involved getting it cut short and then going over with those shearing/thinning scissors so that it can be textured easily with styles. Is this what I'm seeing or is it genuine male pattern baldness diffuse thinning at the crown?

Should I leap into it and take this wet flash photo? I'm not entirely sure I want to see it. Lol. I'm feeling nervous about this thinning as it is.

Any ideas as to why my hair never seems to fall out anymore also? I'm quite confused at the moment. It looks worse than ever - but I'm not having the constant shedding I've had since 18.

 

[maroon]

I plunged into it. I needed to get to the bottom of this. This should be the last bit of material u need to diagnose lol.

1. Took a shower... Used a generic shampoo (VO5) and conditioner 2-in-1 for normal hair. Rinsed it all out well.

2. Hair still wet - I used a rough comb to spike it all/comb agains the hairs.

3. Used a high-res camera instead of shitty mobile phone to take the pics. The camera has a pretty lethal flash on it.

Dry crown:

Dry vertex:

WET top:

WET crown:

WET vertex:

WET crown:

Blitzed!!! That wet/flash combo is evil. Don't feel good.
But I spose it was necessary.

What do you make of it?

 

[wangho75]

once you turn 30 you absolutely do not care how your hair looks, right... you're gonna wanna keep that hairline well past 30 my fine young friend, then you'll be saying you hope you can hold on till you're 40.

 

[still_trying]

maroon don't listen to these people !!!

there really is no need to get on propecia yet! it's a serious drug that gets none of the respect (in terms of effects on hormones) that it really deserves on this forum... because we're all used to taking it people forget that it serious;y messes with nature...

you're in a good position hair-wise, the loss is negligible, hardly noticeable...i think the positives you'd get from a DHT inhibitor like Propecia or avodart are too minimal to be worth the risk!

Lol, this is what I like most. According to your opinion we should just go bald, because we "mess with nature" when we treat our hair loss...... :roll:

no that's not what i said.

i said that he should not be diagnosed by people on this forum suggesting he jumps onto propecia because he's lost a few hairs. There's a lot of messed up people on here who hate dht like it's some enemy, and to listen to them with no doctor's approval would be insane.

from what i can see he's hardly lost any hair, so what's the need to jump onto 1mg of propecia a day as a panic reaction?

in one of your posts you say that you're seeing a psychiatrist - on that information alone would you listen to someone's suggestion that you should start taking strong anti-depressants immediately? No.

 

[still_trying]

I plunged into it. I needed to get to the bottom of this. This should be the last bit of material u need to diagnose lol.

1. Took a shower... Used a generic shampoo (VO5) and conditioner 2-in-1 for normal hair. Rinsed it all out well.

2. Hair still wet - I used a rough comb to spike it all/comb agains the hairs.

3. Used a high-res camera instead of shitty mobile phone to take the pics. The camera has a pretty lethal flash on it.

Dry crown:

Dry vertex:

WET top:

WET crown:

WET vertex:

WET crown:

Blitzed!!! That wet/flash combo is evil. Don't feel good.
But I spose it was necessary.

What do you make of it?

don't go looking for reasons to start a hair regime.

you're not even on the norwood scale, your hair line is perfect!

your hair looks good. Obviously if you wet it or put gel in it, then spike it up you will see scalp from above. Don't think that is a reason to start taking finsateride.

 

[maroon]

don't go looking for reasons to start a hair regime.

you're not even on the norwood scale, your hair line is perfect!

your hair looks good. Obviously if you wet it or put gel in it, then spike it up you will see scalp from above. Don't think that is a reason to start taking finsateride.

Ok.

My main concern is the possibility of this getting worse really. It did not use to be like this. How do I know it will stop here?

I guess I'll shelve the idea of finasteride at the moment - but I'll have to keep an eye open.

Lol @ the 30 to 40 thing. You are probably right - but personally for ME losing my hair in early 20's would be a lot worse than early 30s.