succes rate/big three?

[Letsget2thepoint-51]

ok i know this is a highly variable dependant question, and different peopel have different results etc. BUt woudl anyone be able to ball park estimant some sort of succes rate for starting the big three. MY situation- i have no history of male pattern baldness really, and after noticing some slight thinning on the crown vertex immediatly began the big three. Its not too noticable yet but there has been some definant thinning



anyone wanna throw out an idea of the chances i keep what i have? get soem regrwoth etc?

im just kind of curious here as to what the rate of succes is for someone young (21) who catches it early

 

[UK1]

If you stick to a good regimen through thick and thin your chances will be high, if you're 100% sure you're going bald it is well worth giving a try. I'm a poet and I know it.

 

[sphlanx2006]

If you really stick to the treatments, make sure you apply the topicals correctly(in thinning hair it can be tough!) and be able to objectively judge your progress i would say you chances are really high to maintain your hair, and high enough but a little less to regrow some or a lot.

Why am i saying you need to objectively judge your progress? I have noticed that the more you stare at your hair, the thinner they look. If you spend 5 minutes straight staring at your hair you gonna feel like sh*t. Take pictures so you really now how your hair REALLY are, and take many pictures in different days because there are good and bad hair days.

If you want numbers i would say that about 90% can at least maintain, and about 50-60% can get some regrowth. It is really numbers that i ve made up in my mind, but i feel it would be like that.

 

[So]

Good question....

Interesting question, something that I have deliberated over before myself.

I think the success that you will have with these products, particular the big three are largely governed by way of your attitude towards them and hair loss in general.

If you doubt the efficiency or success that you will have by way of influence from your own thoughts and what you read (perceive) then your chances will be greatly diminished.

It seems that many people on these forums have little success, not all, but an increasing amount do not. Perhaps this forum, whilst beneficial in some respects, affects results in others.

How?

If you are someone who tends to read every sub-topic on this forum you will get a cross section of posts that are positive, optimistic, neutral in tone, negative, pessimistic and down right worrying.

Some of which are taken at face value or with a grain of salt but others of which are taken seriously, literally and absorbed in your subconscious belief system.

I have little doubt that this emphasizes the rate of success or failure. Sometimes there is too much information for our own good.

An example would be a friend, who by all means was extremely diffuse, horribly is probably a better word to describe it, however after embarking upon the use of Propecia and Propecia alone he has regrown the majority of his hair bar his hair line which you can still notice obvious thinning and recession.

This is someone who has not and does not use forums of this nature, but rather pops a pill, once every now and then (literally) and gets on with his life, successfully in a socially rich environment with friends, a loving girlfriend and successful business; results abound.

This is not scientific proof by any means but it certainly adds food for thought concerning my view on this topic. I wonder how many more cases like this exist.

If this is not making much sense to you, I'll further elaborate by saying the purpose of this post is relative to previous (brief) posts that I have made which talk about how thoughts (perception of environment, internal and external) influence your cellular biology.

Reading this forum is but one path of influence that for better or for worse can determine the return on your investment concerning your hair.

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

Re: Good question....

Interesting question, something that I have deliberated over before myself.

I think the success that you will have with these products, particular the big three are largely governed by way of your attitude towards them and hair loss in general.

If you doubt the efficiency or success that you will have by way of influence from your own thoughts and what you read (perceive) then your chances will be greatly diminished.

It seems that many people on these forums have little success, not all, but an increasing amount do not. Perhaps this forum, whilst beneficial in some respects, affects results in others.

How?

If you are someone who tends to read every sub-topic on this forum you will get a cross section of posts that are positive, optimistic, neutral in tone, negative, pessimistic and down right worrying.

Some of which are taken at face value or with a grain of salt but others of which are taken seriously, literally and absorbed in your subconscious belief system.

I have little doubt that this emphasizes the rate of success or failure. Sometimes there is too much information for our own good.

An example would be a friend, who by all means was extremely diffuse, horribly is probably a better word to describe it, however after embarking upon the use of Propecia and Propecia alone he has regrown the majority of his hair bar his hair line which you can still notice obvious thinning and recession.

This is someone who has not and does not use forums of this nature, but rather pops a pill, once every now and then (literally) and gets on with his life, successfully in a socially rich environment with friends, a loving girlfriend and successful business; results abound.

This is not scientific proof by any means but it certainly adds food for thought concerning my view on this topic. I wonder how many more cases like this exist.

If this is not making much sense to you, I'll further elaborate by saying the purpose of this post is relative to previous (brief) posts that I have made which talk about how thoughts (perception of environment, internal and external) influence your cellular biology.

Reading this forum is but one path of influence that for better or for worse can determine the return on your investment concerning your hair.

So is into all that mind over matter mumbo jumbo. :roll: I wouldn't listen to him personally.

 

[So]

World of Wankery,

Despite the fact that mind over matter as you coin it, actually does work, what is it about the notion that thoughts influence cellular biology don't you understand?

Conventional pharmaceutical medicines are based on the old premise of medical literature which has by today's standard evolved to include some of what I mention, cellular communication and process of thought and it's subsequent influence.

It is unfortunate that you continue to digress, I know this is because you don't know any better and have nothing thought provoking to say.

That's a real shame.

 

[Jojje]

i would give u about 90 % on odds that u will keep what u have with the big 3

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

World of Wankery,

Despite the fact that mind over matter as you coin it, actually does work, what is it about the notion that thoughts influence cellular biology don't you understand?

The part that I don't understand is why you believe in something that has no credible scientific proof to back it up.

Once you discredit credible scientific proof to back up your arguments, anything is possible. (No, don't bother doing anything intelligent like backing up your statements to a link to some credible literature)


Newbies do not need to be wowed with idiocy, scaring them off these forums. Your suggestion that if you imagine something, your cells will just magically conform to your mind's thoughts is such an oversimplification of how cellular biology works, that you clearly don't know two shits about anything in the biological realm.

People who come to this forum need sound, credible, and level-headed advice. They don't need you clogging up the forums with obsurd speculations on how to regrow hair with your imagination.

 

[almo181]

say you dont use propecia, and only minoxidil and nizoral, what are you chances then jsut slower loss? im currently taking minoxidil 5% 2x daily, retin-a at night before applying minoxidil, saw palmetto 320 mg daily, 3g of msm and nazirol every three days (while using nioxin shampoo) how much would adding propeica change my whole progress? Im only 17 and have be objective to propecia :?

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

say you dont use propecia, and only minoxidil and nizoral, what are you chances then jsut slower loss? im currently taking minoxidil 5% 2x daily, retin-a at night before applying minoxidil, saw palmetto 320 mg daily, 3g of msm and nazirol every three days (while using nioxin shampoo) how much would adding propeica change my whole progress? Im only 17 and have be objective to propecia :?

Propecia is so extremely important, it is actually the thing that counteracts male pattern baldness. All that other stuff you are taking pales in comparison to propecia.

Get on propecia and look like this:

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/mess ... TARTPAGE=1

Or don't and look like this:

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/discussions ... hp?t=22721 (scroll down)

Take a long hard look at yourself and picture yourself with no hair on top and hair on your sides near your ears before you decide not to take propecia.

 

[Fat-Elvis]

say you dont use propecia, and only minoxidil and nizoral, what are you chances then jsut slower loss? im currently taking minoxidil 5% 2x daily, retin-a at night before applying minoxidil, saw palmetto 320 mg daily, 3g of msm and nazirol every three days (while using nioxin shampoo) how much would adding propeica change my whole progress? Im only 17 and have be objective to propecia :?

Propecia is so extremely important, it is actually the thing that counteracts male pattern baldness. All that other stuff you are taking pales in comparison to propecia.

Get on propecia and look like this:

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/mess ... TARTPAGE=1

Or don't and look like this:

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/discussions ... hp?t=22721 (scroll down)

Take a long hard look at yourself and picture yourself with no hair on top and hair on your sides near your ears before you decide not to take propecia.

Your "don't take propecia" example actually took propecia, and the other guy doesn't have any balding problem at all. You can't fault guys for wanting to try regimens that don't run a risk of giving you b*tch tits and problems with your penis-- be it three months after you start, or three years.

Besides, many guys have had good success with minoxidil alone.

 

[almo181]

you know i think im gonna go talk to my doctor casue after two weeks on saw palmetto no problems so i figure chances of problems of pill which kinda does the same tihng but doesnt allow it to reach the hair worht a shot, but i hear of so many people cutting proscar is it that easy to do? and is that cheaper?

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

Your "don't take propecia" example actually took propecia, and the other guy doesn't have any balding problem at all. You can't fault guys for wanting to try regimens that don't run a risk of giving you b*tch tits and problems with your penis-- be it three months after you start, or three years.

Besides, many guys have had good success with minoxidil alone.

Come on, read his full story. He took differing meds on and off. He did not stick to propecia. Your blanket statement of "...example actually took propecia" makes it sound like he took propecia religiously and still lost hair.

The second guy does have a hairloss problem that he corrected early.

Don't you get the difference? The non-bald guy did not hesitate, while the bald guy didn't not religiously take propecia at the first sign of baldness. Look at their results.

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

you know i think im gonna go talk to my doctor casue after two weeks on saw palmetto no problems so i figure chances of problems of pill which kinda does the same tihng but doesnt allow it to reach the hair worht a shot, but i hear of so many people cutting proscar is it that easy to do? and is that cheaper?

I am on proscar. At first its a b**ch to split but it gets easier with time. Secondly, its a hell of a lot cheaper than propecia.

The pill "doesn't kinda do the same thing." Research has proven that the pill is immensly better at fighting hairloss.

If you think the pill "does kinda the same thing" as saw palemtto, then you have a LOT more research to do.

 

[Jojje]

well its easy if u buy a pill cutter at the pharmasy ...

 

[So]

The part that I don't understand is why you believe in something that has no credible scientific proof to back it up.

Once you discredit credible scientific proof to back up your arguments, anything is possible. (No, don't bother doing anything intelligent like backing up your statements to a link to some credible literature)

Newbies do not need to be wowed with idiocy, scaring them off these forums. Your suggestion that if you imagine something, your cells will just magically conform to your mind's thoughts is such an oversimplification of how cellular biology works, that you clearly don't know two shits about anything in the biological realm.

People who come to this forum need sound, credible, and level-headed advice. They don't need you clogging up the forums with obsurd speculations on how to regrow hair with your imagination.

First of all if you bothered to read my post you would have noticed that what I am saying is adjunct to the topic at hand.

By no means am I trying to convince someone, let alone a newcomer to avoid treatments such as the big three.

You on the other hand construe the context of my post to clearly make it appear that I am on some spiritual journey to persuade the gullible minds of this forum. You're dead wrong!

I am not suggesting that imagining something makes it so, I've never said that and if you think I have implied it, then you are a bigger idiot that I had originally thought.

Have I presented any methodologies for growing hair? No! So how the f u c k do you come to the conclusion that what I am saying is absurdly speculative concerning hair grow methods? Don't answer that, spare me the horror.

The oversimplification you refer to is nothing more than an a method of encapsulation for a topic that is broad in scope. How else would you like me put forth the notion that thoughts can influence cells?Wait, don't answer that either, I just don't care.

This is nothing new! There is a science behind this that doesn't include playing 16 hour straight sessions of World of Warcraft.

I've referenced the work of Bruce Lipton previously and further more would like to add that of reference to Rupert Sheldrake and of course others who will corroborate their work.

For your sake I'll go back to posting information that doesn't challenge the fabric of your basic beliefs. You are likely someone who places their sole emphasis on the big three, nothing else, mixed with a bag full of HOPE.

My deepest apologies to you.

 

[SnowRider22]

Re: Good question....

Interesting question, something that I have deliberated over before myself.

I think the success that you will have with these products, particular the big three are largely governed by way of your attitude towards them and hair loss in general.

If you doubt the efficiency or success that you will have by way of influence from your own thoughts and what you read (perceive) then your chances will be greatly diminished.

It seems that many people on these forums have little success, not all, but an increasing amount do not. Perhaps this forum, whilst beneficial in some respects, affects results in others.

How?

If you are someone who tends to read every sub-topic on this forum you will get a cross section of posts that are positive, optimistic, neutral in tone, negative, pessimistic and down right worrying.

Some of which are taken at face value or with a grain of salt but others of which are taken seriously, literally and absorbed in your subconscious belief system.

I have little doubt that this emphasizes the rate of success or failure. Sometimes there is too much information for our own good.

An example would be a friend, who by all means was extremely diffuse, horribly is probably a better word to describe it, however after embarking upon the use of Propecia and Propecia alone he has regrown the majority of his hair bar his hair line which you can still notice obvious thinning and recession.

This is someone who has not and does not use forums of this nature, but rather pops a pill, once every now and then (literally) and gets on with his life, successfully in a socially rich environment with friends, a loving girlfriend and successful business; results abound.

This is not scientific proof by any means but it certainly adds food for thought concerning my view on this topic. I wonder how many more cases like this exist.

If this is not making much sense to you, I'll further elaborate by saying the purpose of this post is relative to previous (brief) posts that I have made which talk about how thoughts (perception of environment, internal and external) influence your cellular biology.

Reading this forum is but one path of influence that for better or for worse can determine the return on your investment concerning your hair.

Great post, I definitely agree with you. I'm leaving all hairloss forums while I take finasteride, it's time I forget about hairloss, pop a pill daily, and get on with my life.

 

[H/B]

The big three will halt hairloss in the majority who use it, chances are you will be better off after a year or so.. you must be disciplined and compliant and know you are doing something.. no whining about sheds or lack of instant gratification. That behavior is detrimental to progress. The more you cry on the forums like girl man , the more hair you lose, that simple. The law of attraction applies, what you fear or cry about most is certain to manifest.

 

[Guest]

Your "don't take propecia" example actually took propecia, and the other guy doesn't have any balding problem at all. You can't fault guys for wanting to try regimens that don't run a risk of giving you b*tch tits and problems with your penis-- be it three months after you start, or three years.

Besides, many guys have had good success with minoxidil alone.

very disingenuous of you elvis. hairwegoagain didn't start taking propecia until he was already like an nw5. he never would have gotten there had he started at the first signs.

 

[Letsget2thepoint-51]

The big three will halt hairloss in the majority who use it, chances are you will be better off after a year or so.. you must be disciplined and compliant and know you are doing something.. no whining about sheds or lack of instant gratification. That behavior is detrimental to progress. The more you cry on the forums like girl man , the more hair you lose, that simple. The law of attraction applies, what you fear or cry about most is certain to manifest.

this seems liek pretty good advice, i had my "omg im going bald act liek a b**ch moment" but ha i kept that to myself and took out my frusteration on some internet poker, weed, and ice cream haha. Im kinda kidding but i agree with u, there is def. a calming feeling knowing u got to it early and are doing all u can, and it is pretty pointless to totaly stress out over osmething u cant control so heres to patience, the big three, some good luck and hopefully a good chance of succes for us all!





on a side note everyone on this forum just argues over the stupidest stuff, come on guys weak sauce, weak sauce


thanks for the repsonses

-matt