something i read on masturbation and hairloss
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regain said:
Fine then... I don't take minoxidil to keep my hair... I take minoxidil so I can whack off. Happy now?
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Haha... Regain, I hope you realize that we are kidding around with you. Well, there is a kernel of truth in what we are saying, but we are just having fun.
So, lets shake hands and, hey, check out this new tie I bought. Yeah, look really closely at the fabric, at the pattern of the stitching... <<Gardner knees him in the gut as he bends over to examine tie>>
So, lets shake hands and, hey, check out this new tie I bought. Yeah, look really closely at the fabric, at the pattern of the stitching... <<Gardner knees him in the gut as he bends over to examine tie>>
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...<< Cassin knees him in the ribs >>
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Come up with something more intelligent than this. If you're going to squat in these forums and spew stupidity to unsuspecting people who don't know any better (the vast majority of surfers who aren't as educated as guys like Gardener and Cassin) then at least have some clinical data to back up your comments. If you don't have it, don't make them.regain said:
Thanks for your understanding.
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I am not speculating. I will provide genuine research that will once and for all remove the myth that sexual activity does not adversely impact one's hair. As for hair regrowth manufacturers, it is only logical that they would surmise that there is no adverse impact because they know too well that people are not going to reduce their sexual activity and would therefore give the impression that the products would be no good to counter hairloss. By stating that these products will work even if people do not adapt their sexual characteristics, they are able to sell these products. People want the good things in life (great hair in this case) but are not willing to make small sacrifices.
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The confusing part is that you're standing on a mountaintop declaring it to be a fact and you don't even have that data ready yet. You still have yet to go get it. In the future, get the data first, then present the data with a tiny little footnote of the conclusions, containing your opinion. That's how things are done in the scientific world.regain said:
Im going to ruin this entire thing up front for you by saying this: Just because there are changes in levels of DHT, Testosterone, or Estrogen as a result of masturbation, this is not evidence that it will Cause or Increase the speed or severity of male pattern baldness. I already know what data you think you're going to find and unfortunately, all they've shown is that there are minor fluctuations in hormone levels as a result of masturbation. Why is this pointless? Because there are minor fluctuations in hormone levels with nearly everything you do, every day, all day.regain said:
Unless you're going to provide data showing hair counts or photographic assessment in over 100 men over a period of 1 year who masturbated X number of times and the progression and speed of their male pattern baldness was affected (and documented) as a result ... you're not going to have any data we can use.
Again - DHT fluctuates with everything from smoking to masturbating to exercising. DHT fluctuation does not automatically mean hair loss. The changes are not significant enough nor are they long term enough to impact hair. That is why you need to take something that reduces DHT by nearly 70% in the bloodstream, consistently 24 hours a day for nearly 6 months before you will see results - and thats called Propecia.
Conspiracy Theories are getting old. Researchers have surmised a billion things that we don't want to hear, in the past. That effectively ruins any theory that they've collectively, secretly gotten together to squelch all that data showing masturbating will lose hair. Try to keep your head clear, man.regain said:
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hmm, i saw a photo that showed a *slight* thinning at his temples. His hairline is amazing for his age etc bla bla bla but he does have a very slight amount of male pattern baldness. It happens to most men at 1 point so it makes every1 feel better when a star gets it.
http://members.lycos.nl/famous4u/cf6.jpg
and this pic was taken only after another 2 wanks
http://ffmedia.ign.com/daredevil/image/ ... cap_sm.jpg
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I do not agree, and there is no point in debating as you will not be convinced, nor will I. His hair is perfect, and that photo looks like he actually has hair growing beneath the typical male hairline. Suggesting he's balding is almost as bad as the David Beckham/Tom Cruise/Brad Pitt crap that goes on here every once in a while.
Yes, it's nice that stars aren't perfect, but in this case, that's been his hairline since he first started appearing on screen in his early 20's and it is as good as it gets. But everyone wants to hate on a big star, it's human nature...
Yes, it's nice that stars aren't perfect, but in this case, that's been his hairline since he first started appearing on screen in his early 20's and it is as good as it gets. But everyone wants to hate on a big star, it's human nature...
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I hate the fact that he´s a big star despite films like daredevil, the recruit, S.W.A.T and he made one more really appaling film but I can´t remember the title.
He´s cool but he can´t pick his films.
He´s cool but he can´t pick his films.
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HLTs last post was good, i think that was a good answer...how he said that sex. masturbation, exercise, etc only caused dht to fluctuate by small amounts whereas finasteride has a comparatively massive affect on dht levels.
im just wondering though...if youre feeling horny and you masturbate, or when you have sex, when you ejaculate surely thats more than just a minor hormonal fluctuation? isnt that a pretty huge hormonal outburst? just seems logical to me...
again, im not saying this is right, but it just seems to make sense...testosterone is the main male sex hormone and responsible for much male aggression...so when its released in great quantity upon demand surely it means more dht production? they should do some clinical research on this i think.
as for your earlier post HairLossTalk.com, about people masturbating and still having a full head of hair, their hair follicles wouldnt have been vulnerable to the effects of dht in the first place. im not saying it causes hair loss, just suggesting that maybe it merely speeds it up a bit.
and im not suggesting that everyone should stop sex. but if this is the case, maybe it wouldnt be impossible to not masturbate as much...i dont think people should dismiss the idea offhand without thinking it through a bit.
im just wondering though...if youre feeling horny and you masturbate, or when you have sex, when you ejaculate surely thats more than just a minor hormonal fluctuation? isnt that a pretty huge hormonal outburst? just seems logical to me...
again, im not saying this is right, but it just seems to make sense...testosterone is the main male sex hormone and responsible for much male aggression...so when its released in great quantity upon demand surely it means more dht production? they should do some clinical research on this i think.
as for your earlier post HairLossTalk.com, about people masturbating and still having a full head of hair, their hair follicles wouldnt have been vulnerable to the effects of dht in the first place. im not saying it causes hair loss, just suggesting that maybe it merely speeds it up a bit.
and im not suggesting that everyone should stop sex. but if this is the case, maybe it wouldnt be impossible to not masturbate as much...i dont think people should dismiss the idea offhand without thinking it through a bit.
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Yes we can, but as you can see by youngguy's continued comments, people will believe what they want to believe, even if those who have more information correct them. I could have someone like Dr. Sawaya write on the topic, as she is probably the most informed of all of us, and I can already tell you that its the same general theme...
Working out, Masturbation, etc does not affect hormone levels enough to affect hair loss in any direction, good or bad. Just like there are a million things that can inhibit DHT (Green Tea, Saw Palmetto, Grape seed Extract, etc) it has been proven that even if someone mega doses on these things, they won't stop or reverse hair loss. Same general theme. Thats why Merck spent millions of dollars researching a product that had a specific talent at a high % serum dht reduction. If it were as simple as kicking the hormones off kilter for a little while, a little bit, then every snake oil on the planet would give people a full head of hair simply because it had saw palmetto in it.
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Working out, Masturbation, etc does not affect hormone levels enough to affect hair loss in any direction, good or bad. Just like there are a million things that can inhibit DHT (Green Tea, Saw Palmetto, Grape seed Extract, etc) it has been proven that even if someone mega doses on these things, they won't stop or reverse hair loss. Same general theme. Thats why Merck spent millions of dollars researching a product that had a specific talent at a high % serum dht reduction. If it were as simple as kicking the hormones off kilter for a little while, a little bit, then every snake oil on the planet would give people a full head of hair simply because it had saw palmetto in it.
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regain said:
Still waiting
