smoking and your hair?

[Jaydigs1122]

How bad is smoking on your hair?

 

[Maxpwr]

Hmmm, this topic has been discussed a few times by the looks of it... I don't think there have been any conclusions drawn or valid theories pieced together, as I think a lot of people were voicing their opinions based on the 1 or 2 people they knew who smoked and had great hair or really poor hair.

I'd actually like to see some real answers myself... That is, if it does even have an impact on hairloss, and if that impact is noticeable and worth worrying about.

I suspect it could possibly increase hairloss and hamper your efforts in re-growing it too... but that would be more due to the reduced general health one gets from smoking, not something directly related to hairloss...

 

[powersam]

smoking and hair loss - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... xed=google

smoking increasing androgens - http://www.frontlinemed.co.uk/Smoking.htm

that was 10 seconds on google. if someone really wanted to look, they could probably find even more.

 

[s.a.f]

:smack: Not this old chestnut again, :firing:

 

[powersam]

did you read the linked material?

 

[Jaydigs1122]

Thanks fella's

 

[docj077]

It doesn't matter if it's good or bad for hair. There is absolutely no reason why a sane individual should ever consider taking up such a disgusting habit. Insurance companies are moving towards not taking on smokers and I can guarantee that medicare will likely end up doing the same. Society is starting to smarten up when it comes to paying for the things that "other" people do. Ignorance won't get you by anymore.

The same will eventually hold true for alcoholism and obesity without an underlying genetic cause.

 

[blueshard]

How the hell do you determine if someone's alcoholism is from a genetic cause or not?

 

[Jaydigs1122]

It doesn't matter if it's good or bad for hair. There is absolutely no reason why a sane individual should ever consider taking up such a disgusting habit. Insurance companies are moving towards not taking on smokers and I can guarantee that medicare will likely end up doing the same. Society is starting to smarten up when it comes to paying for the things that "other" people do. Ignorance won't get you by anymore.

The same will eventually hold true for alcoholism and obesity without an underlying genetic cause.

I consider myself a sane individual and I smoke. It's a habbit. Just as I am sure you have a habbit that is not good for you. Smoking is something I have been battling for 5years now and yes it is winning the fight. I do not appreciate your input for that it was not designed to help but more to put down.

" Ignorance won't get you by anymore " Hum. To tell you what is going on here. You are being ignorant. You think in your life there is nothing you could change? I am betting there is. The mere fact that you think you are above people that smoke and that you are somwhat more intellegent than me is a joke. I know of people like you and I can tell you first hand, you have more problems with your self image. My suggestion to you would be, take a look at who you " think " you are.... Then take a longer look at what you have become. You will see a need for a change.

Good luck with your complexe, oh I mean " habbit ."

 

[Maxpwr]

did you read the linked material?

Yes, thankyou... that's one of the many things I have wanted to google and just haven't gotten around to.

I've given up the ciggies very recently and am going to actually put in the effort this time to stay off them, so this is another good motivation. I've quit plenty of times before... (um, well I suppose I haven't, if I'm here trying to get off 'em up again!)

There is absolutely no reason why a sane individual should ever consider taking up such a disgusting habit. Insurance companies are moving towards not taking on smokers and I can guarantee that medicare will likely end up doing the same.

There is absolutely no reason why a sane ADULT should ever consider taking up such a disgusting habit. I don't know many adults who have taken up smoking... Most smokers start at an early age, some as young as 12 or 13. They don't think rationally and consider the consequences or the monetary impact this is gonna have on them. It's for stupid reasons, like fitting in... or being rebellious or simply "being cool" which is my dumbass excuse.

I find it appalling as a concept and in practice... Ridiculous even. But not everyone is able to give it up and a lot just won't put in the effort. I suppose that's all there is to it. A lot of smokers were raised in a society that glamorized smoking and associated it with the rich, the charismatic and the influential. *lol* I just hope that future generations will be raised with better awareness and better morals so as not to succumb to the mysticism involved in starting up a habit that: a) will kill you b) tastes and smells nasty c) costs a fortune ...and d) isn't even f**king enjoyable!

 

[blueshard]

health risks aside... smoking tastes great and are enjoyable!

 

[docj077]

It doesn't matter if it's good or bad for hair. There is absolutely no reason why a sane individual should ever consider taking up such a disgusting habit. Insurance companies are moving towards not taking on smokers and I can guarantee that medicare will likely end up doing the same. Society is starting to smarten up when it comes to paying for the things that "other" people do. Ignorance won't get you by anymore.

The same will eventually hold true for alcoholism and obesity without an underlying genetic cause.

I consider myself a sane individual and I smoke. It's a habbit. Just as I am sure you have a habbit that is not good for you. Smoking is something I have been battling for 5years now and yes it is winning the fight. I do not appreciate your input for that it was not designed to help but more to put down.

" Ignorance won't get you by anymore " Hum. To tell you what is going on here. You are being ignorant. You think in your life there is nothing you could change? I am betting there is. The mere fact that you think you are above people that smoke and that you are somwhat more intellegent than me is a joke. I know of people like you and I can tell you first hand, you have more problems with your self image. My suggestion to you would be, take a look at who you " think " you are.... Then take a longer look at what you have become. You will see a need for a change.

Good luck with your complexe, oh I mean " habbit ."

They always say the same thing until they are in the emergency room with a COPD exacerbation that leads to their hospitalization, intubation, ventilator assistance and eventual death. Sorry, buddy, you're not as invincible as you think you are.

I know people like you, too. They think they understand others by simply reading their words. In truth, you have no idea who I am or what my self image is like, because I long ago accepted my own mortality and removed all habits from my life. People of my persuasion are not so easily amused by people taking the "pussy way out" by smoking. I feel the same way about alcoholics and drug abusers and I pretty much don't care what you say as your opinion is clouded by your ignorance. When you have the medical knowledge to back up what you think and say, then we can have a discussion.

Until then, good luck with your habit.

 

[hairwegoagain]

I started smoking in college...admittedly as a result of peer pressure. Many of my friends smoked and it was very easy to pick up. After a while I couldn't be separated from my heaters....when I woke up, between classes, after lunch, at the dorm, at the fraternity house, before bed....I loved it. Cigarettes went with everything...especially with beer at parties. I'd easily down a pack on a Friday or Saturday night. Smoking was nothing unusual.

I stopped several years ago. I felt an improvement in the way I felt almost immediately...more energy, no coughing up sh*t in the shower, no stinky smell on everything I owned. I had forgotten how I felt physically before I started smoking. Everything was improved.

However, I did enjoy it. I'll never go back to smoking, but I admit it...I love tobacco. Cigarettes, cigars, Copenhagen, Levi Garrett, whatever. I'd have a big fatty in my lip right now if it wasn't bad for me. It is, though, so my contact with tobacco is extremely rare.

 

[Jaydigs1122]

It doesn't matter if it's good or bad for hair. There is absolutely no reason why a sane individual should ever consider taking up such a disgusting habit. Insurance companies are moving towards not taking on smokers and I can guarantee that medicare will likely end up doing the same. Society is starting to smarten up when it comes to paying for the things that "other" people do. Ignorance won't get you by anymore.

The same will eventually hold true for alcoholism and obesity without an underlying genetic cause.

I consider myself a sane individual and I smoke. It's a habbit. Just as I am sure you have a habbit that is not good for you. Smoking is something I have been battling for 5years now and yes it is winning the fight. I do not appreciate your input for that it was not designed to help but more to put down.

" Ignorance won't get you by anymore " Hum. To tell you what is going on here. You are being ignorant. You think in your life there is nothing you could change? I am betting there is. The mere fact that you think you are above people that smoke and that you are somwhat more intellegent than me is a joke. I know of people like you and I can tell you first hand, you have more problems with your self image. My suggestion to you would be, take a look at who you " think " you are.... Then take a longer look at what you have become. You will see a need for a change.

Good luck with your complexe, oh I mean " habbit ."

They always say the same thing until they are in the emergency room with a COPD exacerbation that leads to their hospitalization, intubation, ventilator assistance and eventual death. Sorry, buddy, you're not as invincible as you think you are.

I know people like you, too. They think they understand others by simply reading their words. In truth, you have no idea who I am or what my self image is like, because I long ago accepted my own mortality and removed all habits from my life. People of my persuasion are not so easily amused by people taking the "pussy way out" by smoking. I feel the same way about alcoholics and drug abusers and I pretty much don't care what you say as your opinion is clouded by your ignorance. When you have the medical knowledge to back up what you think and say, then we can have a discussion.

Until then, good luck with your habit.

At what time did I say I was invincible or give you the apprehension I think I am?

I do not need a medical backround to distinguish smoking is bad for overall health. Do you need to see a pregnancy test to know if a woman is 7 months pregnant? Prehaps you need to be a meteorologist to know when it is raining?

Now that you think of it, what you said sounds extremely feebleminded doesn't it?

Now there is your presupposition of my ignorance. At no time did I negate the fact that smoking is bad for my health. I simply stated that it is a habbit that I have not been able to stop, as of date.

As for you thinking you are above anyone that has its problems in its self. Maybe that is your habbit. Believing you are on another level than other's. I tell you what, I will take my habbit over yours at this point, for that I know I will quite my habbit eventually. Your habbit is deeper than mine, it involves your mind, it effects your daily life. You can think your better than other people but the reality is your dog sh*t. When you wake up and realize that it will hurt at first but once you understand the problem you can then start the proccess of rebuilding yourself.

Good luck with your "habbit"
Ouch :youbet:

 

[RaginDemon]

Smoking is bad for general health, but I personaly don't believe there is a strong correlation between those two.

 

[Lucky_UK]

I know a few 70+ year olds who are heavy smokers, they won't stop as they feel that they have nothing else to enjoy, one said when I asked about stopping; "why should I? I could get run over tommorrow"

One thing they all have in common is grey hair

 

[powersam]

I know a few 70+ year olds who are heavy smokers, they won't stop as they feel that they have nothing else to enjoy, one said when I asked about stopping; "why should I? I could get run over tommorrow"

One thing they all have in common is grey hair

how odd, a bunch of 70 year olds who all seem to have grey hair... maybe theres something in the water?

 

[docj077]

At what time did I say I was invincible or give you the apprehension I think I am?

I do not need a medical backround to distinguish smoking is bad for overall health. Do you need to see a pregnancy test to know if a woman is 7 months pregnant? Prehaps you need to be a meteorologist to know when it is raining?

Now that you think of it, what you said sounds extremely feebleminded doesn't it?

Now there is your presupposition of my ignorance. At no time did I negate the fact that smoking is bad for my health. I simply stated that it is a habbit that I have not been able to stop, as of date.

As for you thinking you are above anyone that has its problems in its self. Maybe that is your habbit. Believing you are on another level than other's. I tell you what, I will take my habbit over yours at this point, for that I know I will quite my habbit eventually. Your habbit is deeper than mine, it involves your mind, it effects your daily life. You can think your better than other people but the reality is your dog $#iT. When you wake up and realize that it will hurt at first but once you understand the problem you can then start the proccess of rebuilding yourself.

Good luck with your "habbit"
Ouch :youbet:

Now, this is really bothering me, so I have to point it out, because you seem to be using the word as the cornerstone of your argument. It's spelled "H-A-B-I-T" not "H-A-B-B-I-T." So, besides making yourself look like an incredibly poor speller or simply spellchecker, you've also managed to give a me the opportunity to have a few chuckles at your expense. Thank you for that.

If you can name one health benefit of smoking without looking like a total tool, then we can end this discussion. You can't use health benefits that are originally caused by smoking either, so reduction of anxiety doesn't count there, Chuckles.

By the way, I think that you need to learn some humility and some decency. You're tactless, paranoid, and you seem to have the inability to discern life's truisms from your own B.S. It must be quite annoying to believe that other people are better than you or "smarter" than you on a constant basis when they/I have made no such statement or gestures at any point during the conversation. If I'm the one with the superiority complex (which I have no such thing and my required med. school psych evals will prove it), then you're obviously the one with the inferiority complex.

You shouldn't be so quick to mock the mentality and lifestyle of the people that have given up years of their lives for schooling, will continue to give up years for more schooling, deny high paying jobs to work in underprivileged areas, and work 60-80 hrs a week to keep smoking jackasses like yourself healthy, because you went to bed one night, woke up with shortness of breath, went to the ER, and decided to waste everyone else's time, because you couldn't quit ONE habit to save your life.

I'd take my soap box/"habit" of being didactic over your autodigested lungs any day of the week and I'd do it with a smile.

You're right. I do have a "habit." It's that I care too much and I spend too much time helping people and if it means making you feel like a total jackass in order to get through to you, then I'm more than willing to do it.

You're a nicotine addict. Congrats on that. You thrive on the sweet release of catecholamines to give you that "rush." If you want to be treated like a child (since you turned this discussion into a childish joke), then I will speak to you as I would speak to a child.

:youbet:

Ooooo....look...I can put in emoticons, as well.

 

[Jaydigs1122]

At what time did I say I was invincible or give you the apprehension I think I am?

I do not need a medical backround to distinguish smoking is bad for overall health. Do you need to see a pregnancy test to know if a woman is 7 months pregnant? Prehaps you need to be a meteorologist to know when it is raining?

Now that you think of it, what you said sounds extremely feebleminded doesn't it?

Now there is your presupposition of my ignorance. At no time did I negate the fact that smoking is bad for my health. I simply stated that it is a habbit that I have not been able to stop, as of date.

As for you thinking you are above anyone that has its problems in its self. Maybe that is your habbit. Believing you are on another level than other's. I tell you what, I will take my habbit over yours at this point, for that I know I will quite my habbit eventually. Your habbit is deeper than mine, it involves your mind, it effects your daily life. You can think your better than other people but the reality is your dog $#iT. When you wake up and realize that it will hurt at first but once you understand the problem you can then start the proccess of rebuilding yourself.

Good luck with your "habbit"
Ouch :youbet:

Now, this is really bothering me, so I have to point it out, because you seem to be using the word as the cornerstone of your argument. It's spelled "H-A-B-I-T" not "H-A-B-B-I-T." So, besides making yourself look like an incredibly poor speller or simply spellchecker, you've also managed to give a me the opportunity to have a few chuckles at your expense. Thank you for that.

If you can name one health benefit of smoking without looking like a total tool, then we can end this discussion. You can't use health benefits that are originally caused by smoking either, so reduction of anxiety doesn't count there, Chuckles.

By the way, I think that you need to learn some humility and some decency. You're tactless, paranoid, and you seem to have the inability to discern life's truisms from your own B.S. It must be quite annoying to believe that other people are better than you or "smarter" than you on a constant basis when they/I have made no such statement or gestures at any point during the conversation. If I'm the one with the superiority complex (which I have no such thing and my required med. school psych evals will prove it), then you're obviously the one with the inferiority complex.

You shouldn't be so quick to mock the mentality and lifestyle of the people that have given up years of their lives for schooling, will continue to give up years for more schooling, deny high paying jobs to work in underprivileged areas, and work 60-80 hrs a week to keep smoking jackasses like yourself healthy, because you went to bed one night, woke up with shortness of breath, went to the ER, and decided to waste everyone else's time, because you couldn't quit ONE habit to save your life.

I'd take my soap box/"habit" of being didactic over your autodigested lungs any day of the week and I'd do it with a smile.

You're right. I do have a "habit." It's that I care too much and I spend too much time helping people and if it means making you feel like a total jackass in order to get through to you, then I'm more than willing to do it.

You're a nicotine addict. Congrats on that. You thrive on the sweet release of catecholamines to give you that "rush." If you want to be treated like a child (since you turned this discussion into a childish joke), then I will speak to you as I would speak to a child.

:youbet:

Ooooo....look...I can put in emoticons, as well.

Ha ha ha and I quote you " you've also managed to give a me the opportunity to have a few chuckles at your expense. "

I am sorry, you have to see the boisterous in someone pointing out a spelling/grammer aberration and then following the correction with a sentence like that. You are correct. I mispelled the word but it seems to me that you are standing in the middle of a glass house. Do you have any stones to throw?

There is no " health benefit " with smoking. Flat out. Who said there was?

Ok down off your soap box.

You keep reffering to your medical backround as well as all of the time you have spent helping people. You mention this as if you would like someone to take that into account for your foolish outlook on life. Why spend all of your time helping people if you view others in such an unnerving way? You believe someone owes you for your time because you work 60-80 hours a week?

It sounds to me that these high paying jobs that you have relinquished has made you believe you are a better person for it. Do not bring your problems as well as your poor decision's into this arguement and play it off like you have done anyone a favor. You do not wake up and make peanuts everyday and the mere fact that you are suggesting that you do what you do is because you generally like helping people is a crock of sh*t. I do not buy into it for a second.

It sounds as if you resent your job. :lost: There just might be some truth to that...no?


Congrats.... You are just " One of those guys. "

:agree:

 

[docj077]

Ha ha ha and I quote you " you've also managed to give a me the opportunity to have a few chuckles at your expense. "

I am sorry, you have to see the boisterous in someone pointing out a spelling/grammer aberration and then following the correction with a sentence like that. You are correct. I mispelled the word but it seems to me that you are standing in the middle of a glass house. Do you have any stones to throw?

There is no " health benefit " with smoking. Flat out. Who said there was?

Ok down off your soap box.

You keep reffering to your medical backround as well as all of the time you have spent helping people. You mention this as if you would like someone to take that into account for your foolish outlook on life. Why spend all of your time helping people if you view others in such an unnerving way? You believe someone owes you for your time because you work 60-80 hours a week?

It sounds to me that these high paying jobs that you have relinquished has made you believe you are a better person for it. Do not bring your problems as well as your poor decision's into this arguement and play it off like you have done anyone a favor. You do not wake up and make peanuts everyday and the mere fact that you are suggesting that you do what you do is because you generally like helping people is a crock of $#iT. I do not buy into it for a second.

It sounds as if you resent your job. :lost: There just might be some truth to that...no?


Congrats.... You are just " One of those guys. "

:agree:

So, why would you smoke if it brings no real benefit to either your health or your life? Talk about a waste of time and money. I believe that you don't have the courage to stop smoking and that's why you're so defensive. You lack the will to quit your habit.

Also, I wasn't making fun of your spelling abilities. I was making fun of the fact that you were using a misspelled word as such an important piece in your argument while trying to sound omniscient at the same time.

It's one thing to not like your job. It's quite another to have to be constantly disheartened by the stupidity of patients that maintain your caliber of cognitive abilities. Also, the underlined above simply proves that you are master of non-sequiturs and really not worth conversing with even on an internet forum.

Again, congrats on the habit and the infinite supply of B.S.

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