Should Balding people get disability benefit?

[Quantum Cat]

I think so. The mental and psychological problems it causes can be disabling - stop you having a normal life etc...

It's too bad in the UK they won't let you have a hair transplant on the NHS, even though obese bloaters get their gastric bypass/band surgery for free, even though they brought their affliction on themselves, through their greed, laziness and weak will. :hmmm:

the chavs in this country give welfare a bad name - people assume anyone getting benefits must be a lazy lowlife chav scum, or defrauding the system. That's why the Tories are cutting people's benefits. If David Cameron was bald he'd understand.

I'm sure most people would want their tax money to go to help give Norwooders a better life, rather than go to help chavs fund their boozing and breeding chav babies like rabbits.


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[CaptainForehead]

Absolutely not.

Disability benefits should only be for people who cannot make a livelihood.

Being not pretty enough is not a reason to mooch off tax pounds.

 

[Quantum Cat]

if you're debilitated by depression, then you can't make a livelihood

 

[CaptainForehead]

if you're debilitated by depression, then you can't make a livelihood

Then your statement should have been "should depressed people get disability benefit" as depression can come from lots of places.

The answer would still have been no, as a depressed person can take happy pills and go to work.

There are a lot of us who are bald, a bit dead inside, but still earn a living. Life sucks. Deal with it.

 

[Quantum Cat]

Then your statement should have been "should depressed people get disability benefit" as depression can come from lots of places.

The answer would still have been no, as a depressed person can take happy pills and go to work.

There are a lot of us who are bald, a bit dead inside, but still earn a living. Life sucks. Deal with it.

mental health problems are as real, and can be as disabling as physical disabilities. People who just say 'get over it' don't know what it's like to be clinically depressed, and 'happy pills' are certainly not a miracle cure as you make them out to be.

Once again, chavs who can't be bothered to work claim they are 'depressed' as an excuse, when in fact they have no experience of the condition, and this leads to people with genuine mental issues being discriminated against by having their benefits cut

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I do not agree completely, but I think hair transplants should be covered by the health care system. Here is the situation in Belgium: Accutane is covered for people with acne, people who get alcohol related liver disease are treated for free, heavy smokers with lung cancer are treated for free, I underwent gynecomastia surgery for free, hell I even had some money back for my PRK surgery (myopia surgery).

I don't get it, minoxidil is not covered, no hair loss drugs are covered at all, and hair transplant aren't either. What's with those double standards?!

you're completely right, Fred. And people say male pattern baldness sufferers don't face prejudice...


even gyno surgery isn't free over here (it's considered cosmetic) which sucks because I need it. Gastric bypass surgery costs the NHS £tens of thousands, but fat people get that free. And since obese people can't work for a living they don't pay any taxes.


And drinkers and smokers too wtf?! My male pattern baldness didn't come about through poor/wreckless lifestyle choices like theirs did.... :shakehead:

 

[CaptainForehead]

'happy pills' are certainly not a miracle cure as you make them out to be.

I didnt say they were a cure, I implied they can ameliorate depression to the extent to allow the person to make a livelihood.

Your example of the chavs is indirectly supporting me, TRULY unmanageable depressed people are not that many, and ONLY they should get disability benefit. Not people who choose to not work because life is hard.



But I'm with Fred and you on the abusers thing. Smoke and drink and get my hard earned £££?? Or party away in school, not acquire any skills, bang chicks with your good looks and get unemployment benefits????

While I toiled away, started balding at 13, went NW6 at 22 and still a virgin in my late 30s. They want my money????

 

[Quantum Cat]

antidepressants don't work for everyone - far from it. And they also often have side effects - they caused my gyno (thereby making me even more miserable)

and yes, people who simply choose not to work because it's hard shouldn't be eligible for benefits, but the difficulty is discerning between unmanageable depression and just 'feeling a bit down'.

I've had/have clinical depression so I know what it's like. It annoys me that people don't consider it a serious illness, but at the same time it annoys me that some pretend to have it when they don't really, so I do get where you're coming from too.

all the time on Jeremy Kyle he asks a chav: 'do you work?' And they say 'nah, I'm depressed innit!'. I say: 'Well no sh!t you're depressed if all you do is sit around all day and drink and be antisocial. You don't know the meaning of the word depressed. Try being me for a day, chav POS!'


but Captain F, if you could get hair treatments/transplants paid for by the NHS wouldn't you take them?

 

[CaptainForehead]

but Captain F, if you could get hair treatments/transplants paid for by the NHS wouldn't you take them?

I am NW6, for me there ARE no treatments.

Heck, if I could get free money off someone else, I would take it. Doesnt make it right though.



You make it easy for people to mooch, they will.

 

[BrightonBaldy]

i was actually speaking to somebody today who has had their benefits cut, they were claiming for depression for 6 months.

seems the social service have new guidelines about what qualifies as being disabled.


ive never had a problem with people robbing a living off the state, its not the claimants fault, its the system thats at fault and the policy makers who are too blame.

 

[slipy]

benefits at the very least.

we should be granted free full service at health resorts for all the anguish we so heroically face, and by ''full service'' i mean escorts included.

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[slipy]

Only if it's in thier 20'

I'm not feeling sorry for guys who losing thier hair 35+

i wholeheartedly agree, guys like Mel Gibson can go **** themselves, we don't consider them a part of our deformed community.

 

[ChrisW1980uk]

People can and do sometimes receive benefit payments for depression. However the ATOS test will very quickly dump you back off sickness benefit. Especially if the source of depression is balding. I know wigs are available on the NHS although no doubt terrible. A gastric band operation is costly, but the morbidly obese can die from their weight. No man is going to die because he is going bald or is bald. Yes, they may well be affected, but from a clinical point of view, there is no chance of death.

 

[ChrisW1980uk]

I don't understand sorry, what do you mean? An imagined death is worse than actually dying?

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Or is that a lack of romance in your life is worse than dying? Just never heard that phrase before.

 

[Quantum Cat]

i was actually speaking to somebody today who has had their benefits cut, they were claiming for depression for 6 months.

seems the social service have new guidelines about what qualifies as being disabled.


ive never had a problem with people robbing a living off the state, its not the claimants fault, its the system thats at fault and the policy makers who are too blame.

again that assumption. not everybody who claims benefits are robbing off the state. Some are, and hopefully they're cracking down on them. But people with disabilities (including mental health) , and people who lose their jobs need support.

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benefits at the very least.

we should be granted free full service at health resorts for all the anguish we so heroically face, and by ''full service'' i mean escorts included.

irate:

I think approved treatments finasteride and minoxidil should be available on NHS. They should also fund or part fund hair transplants.

yes it's true that obese people or those with lung and liver cancer from substance abuse do face death, whereas baldies don't (except for suicide), but it does seem patently unfair that they should be helped for conditions they brought on themselves, whereas we get nothing.

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Only if it's in thier 20'

I'm not feeling sorry for guys who losing thier hair 35+

you will be once you reach 35

 

[slipy]

bbsa meant those who start balding at 35+, not those 35+ year olds who've had hair problems for years. :whistle:

 

[dude77]

people with certain forms of mental issues should get help .. whether those mental issues develop because of baldness is another issue .. but there are definitely some people who just aren't mentally equipped to function normally in society

 

[Exodus2011]

I understand op

Its 5 pm and i still havent gotten out of bed

I just dont see the ****ing point anymore

 

[HairGuru22]

I understand op

Its 5 pm and i still havent gotten out of bed

I just dont see the ****ing point anymore

Hang in there brah! Things will get better!

 

[BrightonBaldy]

again that assumption. not everybody who claims benefits are robbing off the state. Some are, and hopefully they're cracking down on them. But people with disabilities (including mental health) , and people who lose their jobs need support.

youre the one making an assumption about my opinion, cut and paste where i said everybody who claims benefits is robbing the state?

 

[Quadzilla99]

Plz tell me this is a troll thread