Sexual Dysfunctions And Finasteride

[Willy31]

Hello everyone,

I am a 25 year old man. I took several medications that induced me various sexual problems (and others side effects: BIG hairloss, Vitiligo, weight gain, etc.). I weaned everything in March 2014, but the problems still persist.

The medicines I took:
-Prozac 40 mg / day (2006 to 2014)
-Risperidone 1.75 mg / day (1999 to 2014)
-Concerta 90 mg / day (1999 to 2014)
-Finasteride 0.25 mg / day (2014 to 2016)


The various sexual problems that persist:
• decreased libido
Difficulty in initiating and maintaining an erection
• delay of orgasms
• reduction of pleasure during orgasm
• decreased penis sensitivity
• loss of response to sexual stimulation
• reduction of ejaculated semen volume

I do not band anymore by myself. I have no erections in the morning when I get up. I must absolutely stimulate myself manually and be very focused in my fantasies. The most I can get is 1/2 erection, and when I stop stimulating myself manually and / or mentally, I automatically lose my semi-erection. When I'm with a partner, it's a disaster every time. Whether I'm alone or in a relationship, it takes me between 1 and 3 hours before I can ejaculate.

I need treatments to attack every aspect of sexual dysfunction. v**** and Cialis can help me only temporarily and they will only help for one aspect, that of maintaining an erection.

Are there or will there be treatments to restore my initial libido (I gradually went from 8 cravings per day to 1-2 times a day), give me back the absolute control I had for to be able to ejaculate when it seems to me (it takes me more than an hour now), give me back my ability to automatically bandage with a complete erection (without resorting to masturbation and v**** / Cialis)?

If there is no cure, are there treatments to at least alleviate all my problems?

The thing is that it gets worse from year to year and it scares me. This is the time I start to heal myself.

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As for the "erections" aspect, I need you to suggest reliable sites for the cheapest possible v**** / Cialis please.

I live in Quebec (Canada), so I will need Canadian or American sites.

I found this site: http://pillstock.net/order-cia lis-online-en.html ... I do not know if anyone knows it, but it seems to be European ...

I was suggested this one, but I do not know if it is reliable (it looks expensive): www.superpharmacie.fr
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Thank you!
William

 

[Trichosan]

Sorry to hear you are experiencing those effects, Willy31. Here is what I suggest. You should be working closely with a physician preferrably one that specializes in sexual disfunction or integrative medicine. First try to treat it naturally rather than a patch like v**** or penile injections. Get full male bloodwork panel done. Exercise consistently, lose weight. Natural products that increase testosterone - tongat ali. Product to increase nitric oxide-Neo40 Professional. Discuss with your doctor before taking anything. Blood analysis is first step. I think you can recover but it may take several months once you get exercise, weight and blood chemistry into optimal levels.

 

[PappinAce]

if it’s getting worse year to year and the stuff is no longer in your system, might there be a mental aspect that is exacerbating things?

try some THC. you live in canada where i believe it’s legal for medical purposes. for me it’s been a huge help with depression, anxiety, and increasing creativity. maybe not the answer you’re looking for but it might be one thing to add to your treatment.

 

[Trichosan]

I agree, psychological impact can be subtle, subconscious, but huge and debilitating. But, before you use THC, get a psych analysis to see how much the mental weight is having an impact. This is not an evaluation to see if you're crazy or have mental issues, but an objective approach similar to blood analysis.

 

[g.i joey]

if it’s getting worse year to year and the stuff is no longer in your system, might there be a mental aspect that is exacerbating things?

try some THC. you live in canada where i believe it’s legal for medical purposes. for me it’s been a huge help with depression, anxiety, and increasing creativity. maybe not the answer you’re looking for but it might be one thing to add to your treatment.

i love weed to death, smoke it every night, but how in the hell can it HELP your anxiety lol

 

[Willy31]

Thank you very much Trisochan, PappinAce and g.i Joey !

I have a blood test tomorrow.

-Hématologie: FSC, Sedimentation

-Biochimie: Albumine, ALT, Creatinine, Électrolytes (Na-K-Cl) ions, Ferritine, Hb glyquée (HbA1C), Proteines totales, TSH (algo. thyr.), Vitamine B-12

-Others: Testo total, Testo biodisponioble, Shbg

My family doctor is finding me an urologist and he is going to give him the results of blood tests. However,
I do not want to get f*cked and I want to be well prepared to challenge the urologist. That's why I'm calling for your help.

In ******** forum, many guys suggest me Naltrexone. Do you know? If yes, where find Naltrexone (prescription by urologist , internet?) and what dosage? I see Naltexone can induce hairloss. It's true? I don't need other alopecia, I have a big DUPA and it's a nightmare.

 

[Willy31]

...But, more I read about Naltrexone, more I think it's not a good idea.

 

[Zoro]

i love weed to death, smoke it every night, but how in the hell can it HELP your anxiety lol

I live in a state where weed is illegal and most of the weed you buy on the street makes me anxious as hell I can't be around people after smoking. Makes me feel like I'm gonna die if I try to go out unless I smoke very little. I've tried high CBD weed and indicas from legal states though and they didn't make me anxious at all, very relaxing even when around other people. I have pretty bad anxiety that I don't take meds for, although I use phenibut occasionally. I only smoke about once a week.

 

[JeanLucBB]

i love weed to death, smoke it every night, but how in the hell can it HELP your anxiety lol

Weed is another thing like finasteride that shows how totally different each persons body and response to drugs can be. For me weed is like taking a xanax but I get more giggly.

 

[g.i joey]

I live in a state where weed is illegal and most of the weed you buy on the street makes me anxious as hell I can't be around people after smoking. Makes me feel like I'm gonna die if I try to go out unless I smoke very little. I've tried high CBD weed and indicas from legal states though and they didn't make me anxious at all, very relaxing even when around other people. I have pretty bad anxiety that I don't take meds for, although I use phenibut occasionally. I only smoke about once a week.

l. In Montreal yiu can smoke without even worrying. I got pulled over last week and my car reeked, got searched, admitted I was high, they found like a gram ofweed,took it and they sent me home lol.

On a serious note, I heard phenibut can be pretty addicting, I've been tempted to try, but seems like a problem I should avoid lol. f*** medication for anxiety man, it's not something you should be relying on meds for... how bad is your anxiety, like to what extent?

Edit: I'd also recommend high sativa strains, one of my fav Girl Scout Cookies if you can get your hands on it, they're usually more uplifting highs and make you less paranoid. Indicas destroy me lol

 

[Zoro]

l. In Montreal yiu can smoke without even worrying. I got pulled over last week and my car reeked, got searched, admitted I was high, they found like a gram ofweed,took it and they sent me home lol.

On a serious note, I heard phenibut can be pretty addicting, I've been tempted to try, but seems like a problem I should avoid lol. f*** medication for anxiety man, it's not something you should be relying on meds for... how bad is your anxiety, like to what extent?

Edit: I'd also recommend high sativa strains, one of my fav Girl Scout Cookies if you can get your hands on it, they're usually more uplifting highs and make you less paranoid. Indicas destroy me lol

It depends, some days it's not bad some days its pretty severe where even the smallest sh*t will just make me nervous and anxious as f*** for no reason, and occasional panic attacks. Also, in before someone comments "its finasteride breh" I've always had pretty bad social anxiety and general anxiety in general, way before finasteride. I guess wasting away a large part of my youth playing computer games for sometimes 10+ hours a day instead of going out and socializing did some damage, quit that sh*t completely and it's slowly getting better but it still sucks.

Phenibut addiction is extremely overrated IMO maybe I could see it if you're a daily user but daily use builds up a tolerance extremely quickly so there's no point. I use f-phenibut once or twice a week or some weeks I don't use it, i tried more frequently with regular phenibut but the tolerance builds fast.. The effects are very subtle for me but it does help, if you go into it expecting a euphoric high you'll be disappointed.

 

[Willy31]

Hello everyone,

I have something new.

As I already mentioned, after complaining about hair loss and sexual dysfunction (of which I am responsible for Prozac, Risperidone, Concerta ... and maybe Finasteride), my doctor made me have a blood test. He called me yesterday to tell me that my Vitamin B12 was low. He told me he was going to send me a prescription Vitamin B12 to take by mouth (oral) to stabilize all that.

However, I have done some research and I am afraid it will be more complicated than that. First, it seems that the injections are more effective, and secondly, since I am not a vegetarian and I eat regularly full of foods containing Vitamin B12, it could be due to malabsorption of V B12. Even if I'm not yet 40 (I'm only 26 years old), it could still be a pernicious anemia or other serious diseases of the kind that develops quietly and insidiously. Untreated, the disease progresses to severe neurological disorders.

Since my doctor does not seem to know what to do and it is difficult for me to reach him (impossible by phone), can you tell me what is the next step?

-Do I only take a supplement of V B12 (injection, patch, orally, other?). For life? With a draconian follow-up?
-Do I have to do other more advanced blood tests? Are there more than one type of V B12 to identify?
-Are there tests to detect serious diseases related to the lack of V B12 (such as pernicious anemia, etc.)?
-Do you have any other suggestions?

* I want to specify that I live in Quebec *

Thank you!

William (Male, 26 years old)

 

[g.i joey]

Hello everyone,

I have something new.

As I already mentioned, after complaining about hair loss and sexual dysfunction (of which I am responsible for Prozac, Risperidone, Concerta ... and maybe Finasteride), my doctor made me have a blood test. He called me yesterday to tell me that my Vitamin B12 was low. He told me he was going to send me a prescription Vitamin B12 to take by mouth (oral) to stabilize all that.

However, I have done some research and I am afraid it will be more complicated than that. First, it seems that the injections are more effective, and secondly, since I am not a vegetarian and I eat regularly full of foods containing Vitamin B12, it could be due to malabsorption of V B12. Even if I'm not yet 40 (I'm only 26 years old), it could still be a pernicious anemia or other serious diseases of the kind that develops quietly and insidiously. Untreated, the disease progresses to severe neurological disorders.

Since my doctor does not seem to know what to do and it is difficult for me to reach him (impossible by phone), can you tell me what is the next step?

-Do I only take a supplement of V B12 (injection, patch, orally, other?). For life? With a draconian follow-up?
-Do I have to do other more advanced blood tests? Are there more than one type of V B12 to identify?
-Are there tests to detect serious diseases related to the lack of V B12 (such as pernicious anemia, etc.)?
-Do you have any other suggestions?

* I want to specify that I live in Quebec *

Thank you!

William (Male, 26 years old)

Can't really help you bro but we live in the same province... you from Montreal?

 

[Willy31]

I continued my research and I read that several medicaments could interfere and be at the origin of vitamin B12 deficiency by malabsorption, including psychotropic drugs (antidepressants, neuroleptics) and treatments against high blood pressure (Minoxidil). It could only be that. But maybe not.

But even if it's a drug that causes malabsorption, it's still dangerous to let the vitamin B12 level out of balance. Hence the importance of finding a doctor who knows about it, how to rebalance it in the best possible way and to have a regular follow-up with blood tests.

 

[Willy31]

Can't really help you bro but we live in the same province... you from Montreal?

Nice! ... but i'm not from Mtl.

 

[Willy31]

I started the oral tablets Beduzil 1200mcg on November 16th.

I saw two doctors who told me the same thing. They do not want to do more testing. They told me to start with the tablets, do another blood test in March 2018, and if that does not work, go to the injections. That's what I'm going to do.

What scares me is that my B12 level was 131pmol / L on October 31, 2017. The critical threshold is 110pmol / L. Down there, there can be irreversible damage. I hope that if the tablets are ineffective, my B12 rate will not have time to go down to 110pmol / L by March 2018. I do not know how fast it is going down.

Also, according to all the sites I consulted, it seems that testing the B12 rate and treating it properly is much more complex than simply doing blood tests every 3 months and choosing between tablets or injections. I would so like to meet a doctor who agrees to deepen the subject with me. Maybe I should go to private, but it's very expensive.

For more testing...My family doctor and the other general practitioner I have seen are completely stubborn and do not want to know anything.

Would it seem that no analysis is 100% reliable, since the analyzes recommended below are not specific to B12 and that rates may increase for other reasons than vitamin B12 deficiency. That said, these assays remain the most reliable current method for detecting B12 deficiency.

Methylmalonic acid (AMM, measured more specifically in urine than in blood) is the main analysis to identify a deficiency.
When our cells begin to run out of vitamin B12, our levels of methylmalonic acid increase.
A person properly supplemented and without deficiency will most often obtain a result less than 1 mmol of AMM per mol of creatinine. Starting from 2 mmol of AMM per mol of creatinine, one can ask questions about a deficiency / a beginning of deficiency. The official recommendations are not to exceed (approximately) 3.5 mmol of AMM per mol of creatinine.

It is important to ask for the urinary MAH (urine analysis) and not the AMM serum (blood test), the latter being less precise.
It is to be expected that our doctor and laboratory will know absolutely nothing about methylmalonic acid.
For clarification: it is better to ask the laboratory to have the analysis sent to a specialized lab (where the analysis is done), if possible, rather than to laboratories that are not specialized in this area. (who do not perform the analysis themselves and subcontract it, which can significantly lengthen the time to receive its results).

Neurologists strongly recommend that you test your homocysteine (the latter increasing during vitamin B12 deficiency as the AMM) via a blood test.

 

[Willy31]

Do you think there is a correlation between low B12 and Hairloss/Sexuals dysfunctions/Vitiligo/Psoriasis/Always tired?

Since 16th november, I take Ginkgo Biloba 2X 80mg/day for my libido but... I don't think It's really effective.

 

[Willy31]

Please list any and all medications, vitamins, supplements, and herbs you have used post finasteride, as best you can.
Thanks

-minoxidil Rogain foam 5% (december 2016 to february 2017) .... stopped because SE
-minoxidil Kirkland liquid 5% (april 2017 to may 2017) ........ stopped because SE
-Nizoral 2%
-minoxidil Kirkland liquid 5% (since 14 august 2017)
-Ginkgo Biloba (since 16 november 2017)
-Vitamin B12 BEDUZIL 1200MCG (since 16 november 2017)

But I don't think Finasteride is the problem. The true reason of my terribles sexuals sides effects = PROZAC + RISPERIDONE

 

[Willy31]

Ok.

But I am even more worried about my B12 rate which is very low. If you have any knowledge in there, it would be appreciated.

 

[Willy31]

I imagine you left out a current anti-depressant you're on? Am I mistaken?
Or is your depression currently being untreated?

No, I don't take this sh*t since march 2014.