SCUBE3 identified as possible therapeutic treatment for androgenetic alopecia

RagnarLothbrok

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Uhm, been checking a bit more about Plikus, he's definetely a chad researcher, he's been experimenting with finding hair mollecules for over 10 years now and has so many interesting research about wounding, stem cells, sonic hedgedog signaling and more

His publication research is pretty extense: https://plikuslab.bio.uci.edu/publications/

So if his company (Amplifica) is interested in the compound it must be because they truly believe it could work for hairloss. Now im curious about the compound too :rolleyes:
 
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Uhm, been checking a bit more about Plikus, he's definetely a chad researcher, he's been experimenting with finding hair mollecules for over 10 years now and has so many interesting research about wounding, stem cells, sonic hedgedog signaling and more

His publication research is pretty extense: https://plikuslab.bio.uci.edu/publications/

So if his company (Amplifica) is interested in the compound it must be because they truly believe it could work for hairloss. Now im curious about the compound too :rolleyes:
Yeah, he's one of the smartest in the field. The research is fairly preliminary, but it shows a lot of promise. They are probably well underway with the next step in the research, but it will be a while before we get another paper on this.
 
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kinda surprised me to see Kevin Mann so hyped about it when he is usually very skeptic about everything (including HMI-115)
 
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Doesn't sound safe


Granted it is a downstream of SHH, so makes sense it would have a hand in the cancer-causing effects of over-expressed SHH

And not even just that: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17442284/
 
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Doesn't sound safe


Granted it is a downstream of SHH, so makes sense it would have a hand in the cancer-causing effects of over-expressed SHH

And not even just that: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17442284/
We don't go for safety, we go for results.

Edit: this is going to have tissue specific effects more so than most drugs. It will be a topical, not something like finasteride. I don't think it will be dangerous.
 
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Doesn't sound safe


Granted it is a downstream of SHH, so makes sense it would have a hand in the cancer-causing effects of over-expressed SHH

And not even just that: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17442284/
Uhm, if im not mistaken they found the SCUBE protein implications to hair growth through analysis of hairy moles. Moles are known to have increased cell activity and more prone to melanoma (skin cancer) than normal skin. I wonder if any of this has any connection.
 

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We don't go for safety, we go for results.

Edit: this is going to have tissue specific effects more so than most drugs. It will be a topical, not something like finasteride. I don't think it will be dangerous.
Way too early to tell... Hope youre right, we really need this one.
 

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The literal premise of finding SCUBE supposedly comes from the fact that interacting with Shh is highly dangerous. We have to assume that researchers had this in mind the whole time otherwise it seems focusing on this downstream (instead of Shh directly) would be completely pointless. So yeah, im optimistic it will be possible to deliver safely imo

Its so funny, choose AIDS from Cyclosporine or Cancer from SCUBE, thats our new options lool
 

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Doesn't sound safe


Granted it is a downstream of SHH, so makes sense it would have a hand in the cancer-causing effects of over-expressed SHH

And not even just that: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17442284/

But we all already have SCUBE3 in our bodies so if we topically increase SCUBE3 a dab in the scalp it's not like we would be adding something new and totally unpredictable to our bodies. Also, there are newer topical vehicles that can dramatically reduce how much active drug seeps deeper into the body when applied topically.
 

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Uhm, if im not mistaken they found the SCUBE protein implications to hair growth through analysis of hairy moles.
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the biggest cope would be if it works but its not safe. Because its one of the only ever drugs that could cause real hair follicle neogenesis (grow hair where it doesn't exist)

hairy moles grow terminal hair where it never existed too
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I wonder if it's possible to get SCUBE3 early or do we need to wait for it to go through all of the studies?
I don't think we are getting a small molecule for it, I think we're going to have to inject the protein. It is possible to get it, but getting proteins shipped to you without an actual research institution is more difficult than small molecules. It's also going to need to be encapsulated in liposomes to prevent it from being catabolized, and then injected. It has potential to work really well, but I'm not going that far for it based on preliminary research. It's probably less effective than r-spondin injections.
 

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There isn't much information on the website ( Atleast for now) but any info about Scube3 clinical trial will be here.
 
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