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The recent abundance of threads concerning Mr. Benitah's endeavours notwithstanding, I thought I'd take it upon myself to create yet another one. Reason being, the thing I'm proposing to discuss is technically not Pilox, but, as Bruno told us, a separate project.
(That news has largely been ignored, but I would think I'm not the only one interested in it (there are dozens if not a few hundred people using dermarollers to try and fight the Androgenetic Alopecia, with as many as hundreds of thousands views of the threads regarding dermarolling. If this has the potential to be a better and already available alternative to dermarolling, I think it's worth looking into (not to mention that the ingredients seem to be overlapping with those of the ever so promising Pilox project. End of recursion, a horde of closing parentheses.))))
So what we have now is the Russian site www.thickhair.ru , unearthed by Ross, that namedrops Mr. Benitah heavily, says the product they sell is his invention, and offers it in form of a package of a DermaPen and "two to four" months' supply of the compound for $300 (a DermaPen itself is ~$150 on eBay), which they ship by mail, quite possibly all over the world. Other than that, the site is somewhat shady, although they do make a point of measuring the hair count before and after two months of treatment if you were to pay $1200 and visit them for the procedures, but most importantly, it lacks any information on the science behind their thing, its basic nature even (except, as mentioned, that it was created by the famous Yoram Benitah) as well as any decent before/after photos.
Then, we have Bruno's report:
"8. Yoram is developing a new dermapen treatment for a clincal enviroment, I assume that is what we see on the russian website. Basic description is dermapen + Copper peptide + Complex? This is unrelated to Pilox."
( http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/b...ategory-1-order-last_answer-descasc-DESC.html )
So, please, Vraf, Bruno, all you wonderful people in contact with Monsieur Benitah. Could you please ask him to elaborate just a little bit on this thing?
1. First and most important of all, does that site indeed has any connection to him and his research?
2. Does he have any test results for this project? We aren't asking about Pilox (in any case, we've seen the photos, we already are impressed) as that is a work in progress, but if this is commercially available - there should be something more substantial than the two pairs of low-res photos.
3. Isn't the product they offer available anywhere else, besides the mentioned site?
4. No. Can't think of anything else.
5. Oh, on second thought, I can. Bruno specifically mentioned that it's supposed to be a "treatment for a clincal enviroment" and the Russians are willing to send you a device you just plug in and have at it.
6. Thank you ever so much.
A couple of minor details to add about that site.
It's written in such painfully bad Russian that I could only expose myself so much and have overlooked a thing or two.
They say the compound is produced by the company Dr. M. Burstein ( www.burstein-dead-sea.com ).
They claim 86 percent response rate. What they say is, word for word, "86 percent have noticed a considerable increase in density after 8 procedures" (that's two months).
They mention that the clinical treatment they offer is "more intensive" than the do-it-yourself option.
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The recent abundance of threads concerning Mr. Benitah's endeavours notwithstanding, I thought I'd take it upon myself to create yet another one. Reason being, the thing I'm proposing to discuss is technically not Pilox, but, as Bruno told us, a separate project.
(That news has largely been ignored, but I would think I'm not the only one interested in it (there are dozens if not a few hundred people using dermarollers to try and fight the Androgenetic Alopecia, with as many as hundreds of thousands views of the threads regarding dermarolling. If this has the potential to be a better and already available alternative to dermarolling, I think it's worth looking into (not to mention that the ingredients seem to be overlapping with those of the ever so promising Pilox project. End of recursion, a horde of closing parentheses.))))
So what we have now is the Russian site www.thickhair.ru , unearthed by Ross, that namedrops Mr. Benitah heavily, says the product they sell is his invention, and offers it in form of a package of a DermaPen and "two to four" months' supply of the compound for $300 (a DermaPen itself is ~$150 on eBay), which they ship by mail, quite possibly all over the world. Other than that, the site is somewhat shady, although they do make a point of measuring the hair count before and after two months of treatment if you were to pay $1200 and visit them for the procedures, but most importantly, it lacks any information on the science behind their thing, its basic nature even (except, as mentioned, that it was created by the famous Yoram Benitah) as well as any decent before/after photos.
Then, we have Bruno's report:
"8. Yoram is developing a new dermapen treatment for a clincal enviroment, I assume that is what we see on the russian website. Basic description is dermapen + Copper peptide + Complex? This is unrelated to Pilox."
( http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/b...ategory-1-order-last_answer-descasc-DESC.html )
So, please, Vraf, Bruno, all you wonderful people in contact with Monsieur Benitah. Could you please ask him to elaborate just a little bit on this thing?
1. First and most important of all, does that site indeed has any connection to him and his research?
2. Does he have any test results for this project? We aren't asking about Pilox (in any case, we've seen the photos, we already are impressed) as that is a work in progress, but if this is commercially available - there should be something more substantial than the two pairs of low-res photos.
3. Isn't the product they offer available anywhere else, besides the mentioned site?
4. No. Can't think of anything else.
5. Oh, on second thought, I can. Bruno specifically mentioned that it's supposed to be a "treatment for a clincal enviroment" and the Russians are willing to send you a device you just plug in and have at it.
6. Thank you ever so much.
A couple of minor details to add about that site.
It's written in such painfully bad Russian that I could only expose myself so much and have overlooked a thing or two.
They say the compound is produced by the company Dr. M. Burstein ( www.burstein-dead-sea.com ).
They claim 86 percent response rate. What they say is, word for word, "86 percent have noticed a considerable increase in density after 8 procedures" (that's two months).
They mention that the clinical treatment they offer is "more intensive" than the do-it-yourself option.
