Rotating Copper-Peptides

Cassin

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Anyone do this?

I think I am going to start using Folligen once again once or twice a week on days I don't use Tricomin, just to shake my regimen up a bit.
 

hair_tomorrow

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Cassin said:
Anyone do this?

I think I am going to start using Folligen once again once or twice a week on days I don't use Tricomin, just to shake my regimen up a bit.

I used folligen for 6 months,

then tricomin for 3 months and 2 weeks,

ran out of tricomin and out of money :)

so I'm using my leftover folligen once again, like every other day.

Once I get over this money draught - i'm back on the tric.
 

misterium

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^ Same here.. using up some dilluted folligen and when i have cash i'll get some tric again.

Tricomin NEEDS to come down in price.

It SHOULD only be about $35 .. that would be more than fair.

Greedy chemists!
 

Britannia

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Cassin said:
just to shake my regimen up a bit.

If your regeime is working, dont do this.
 

misterium

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I think of copper peptides as an 'extra' to my regimen, but not a staple required product such as finasteride or nizoral.

In that regard, I think that copper peptide solutions can be used any way you want.. rotated, dilluted, applied generously or sparingly.

You have to gage your own progress with these things, and make judgement calls.

I think.
 

Freestyle

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Yeah, I don't really consider Tricomin or Folligen as part of my core regimen.

I use them for their effects on the health of my hair and the shorter periods between growth cycles.
 

Bryan

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misterium said:
I think of copper peptides as an 'extra' to my regimen, but not a staple required product such as finasteride or nizoral.

I disagree. I maintained my hair (actually, I did a little better than just maintain my hair) for two solid years using only Prox-N, which apparently doesn't even have any ingredients that affect or inhibit androgens at all. It focuses mainly on the SOD approach, like copper-peptides.

To this very day, I've still never used either finasteride or Nizoral.

Bryan
 

cook'n'milkies

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Question:

what are copper peptides and how do they fit into a hairloss regimen?

tried a forum search too many posts to sift through.

thanks.
 

misterium

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^ everything you could need to know about copper peptides on http://www.skinbiology.com .. Dr. Lauren Pickart is the guy behind most of the science involving this stuff.
 

Bryan

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As the name implies, a copper-peptide is a molecule formed by the union of a copper atom with protein fragments (peptides). When applied to the scalp, they apparently have growth-stimulating effects. According to Dr. Proctor, that has to do with their ability to destroy the superoxide radical, which is harmful to the hair follicle and signals them to cease growing.

Bryan
 

hair_tomorrow

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Bryan said:
As the name implies, a copper-peptide is a molecule formed by the union of a copper atom with protein fragments (peptides). When applied to the scalp, they apparently have growth-stimulating effects. According to Dr. Proctor, that has to do with their ability to destroy the superoxide radical, which is harmful to the hair follicle and signals them to cease growing.

Bryan

nice synapsis Bryan :book:
 

Dave001

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Bryan said:
To this very day, I've still never used either finasteride or Nizoral.

Huh?? I've known that you've avoided finasteride (as have I, for similar reasons), but I'm shocked that you've never used Nizoral (ketoconazole) shampoo. You've always seemed like a Nizoral kinda guy (and I don't mean that in relation to any of these recent threads concerning the color-response relationship to ketoconazole ;-).

Is there a particular reason you've avoided Nizoral?
 

hair_tomorrow

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I'll bet he's a Nano guy!
 

Bryan

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hair_tomorrow said:
nice synapsis Bryan :book:

My synapses allowed me to write that synopsis! :D

Bryan
 

Bryan

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Dave001 said:
Huh?? ...I'm shocked that you've never used Nizoral (ketoconazole) shampoo....Is there a particular reason you've avoided Nizoral?

Yes, but I'm a little too embarrassed to talk about it publicly. I'll explain in a private email to you.

Bryan
 

Red Rose

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Further to the comment by the maker of Revivogen (from HLH):-

Dear Dr. Khadavi, If one would have to chose between reducing DHT topically, or using a topical SOD, which would be best in your opinion, and why? What is the benefit of SOD's and how important are they, i.e. in a Proxiphen product. Many thanks for your time Laurier "

Dr. Alex A Khadavi, MD answered: "I have not not seen many patients whom have benefited from use of these products. In my experience topical products that reduce DHT production by inihibiting 5-alpha-reductase are much more effective."


when someone is already taking an internal 5a-reductase inhibitor, which topical combination would be more effective:-

1) topical antiandrogen/minoxidil; or
2) CP/minoxidil?
 

The Gardener

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Bryan said:
Dave001 said:
Huh?? ...I'm shocked that you've never used Nizoral (ketoconazole) shampoo....Is there a particular reason you've avoided Nizoral?

Yes, but I'm a little too embarrassed to talk about it publicly. I'll explain in a private email to you.

Bryan

It's okay to share, Bryan. We're not homophobic, and we are all aware of what Nizoral can do.
 
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