Rogaine is recovering my old hairline....

[Rogazzle]

**EDIT**

Oh yea, correction, minoxidil for me DID regrow hair below my baseline hairline and it did thicken it up with the rest of hair..BUT, that was very recent loss that it fully recovered...like 8months-1year worth of cosmetically acceptable hairline recovery. So about 1/10 of a centimeter of bald hairline recovery

Add miconazole + copper peptides into the mix and really watch happens.

Yea, im seriously thinking of getting the folligen..... Dont know about mico yet

Don't use Folligen.

Use Tricomin.

 

[Hate2LoseIt]

Why do you say tricomin over folligen...From what I read before (and this was a long time ago) the folligen had a higher amount of cp's...more closer to the studies or something like that.... :dunno: I thought the consensus was folli>trico

 

[Rogazzle]

Why do you say tricomin over folligen...From what I read before (and this was a long time ago) the folligen had a higher amount of cp's...more closer to the studies or something like that.... :dunno: I thought the consensus was folli>trico

This is my opinion:

The 1st gen copper peptides (GHK-Cu glycine-histidine-lysine amino acids) where protected by patent owned by Procyte corporation. When the inventor (Dr. Pickart) left Procyte, he couldn't take the formula with him. So he created a 2nd generation line of CP's (AHK-Cu alanine-histidine-lysine amino acids) which are made cheaply using copper chloride and hydrolized soy protein. Folligen is the result. It's definitely more concentrated, but the amino acid copper binding is more random, arguably less targeted, and from what I hear it stains like crazy.

More copper peptide (of the wrong kind) doesn't = better, either.

Again just an opinion. I could be wrong. But I have my suspicions (from info gleaned from other sources.)

 

[Rogazzle]

^^ And no. This doesn't mean everyone should go out and buy Tricomin believing it's going to blow up their hairline.

Because it won't do that. It *may* add, but nothing miraculous.

Nothing more.

 

[JWM]

Rogazzle has strong, valid points, however I have used both products (in conjunction with the big 3) for well over a year each, and found Folligen to be superior. It IS a tad messy though.

 

[RjiS]

Rogazzle has strong, valid points, however I have used both products (in conjunction with the big 3) for well over a year each, and found Folligen to be superior. It IS a tad messy though.

JWM,
I'm receiving my first bottle of Folligen in the mail tomorrow. I've read that you should ease into using it i.e a small amount once a day every few days. After a couple of weeks, one should use it every other day and dilute it with water if any scalp irritation occurs. What's your take? Also, how have you benefited from using it? How long after the first use did you notice changes/results?

 

[JWM]

I have never needed to dilute it with water. What I do is apply about 10-12 squirts after towel-drying my hair, rub it in, wait about five minutes or so, then apply minoxidil. I use it every other day.

I believes it helps keep the scalp healthy and therefore allows other treatments to work more efficiently. I also believe that after about 6 months of consistent use it helps thicken weaker hairs. This has been my experience. Yours may be different. Good luck.

 

[Ken1983]

I'm like you too, I have a longterm girlfriend and every 5-AR inhibitor I've tried so far has messed up my sex-life, so unfortunately I can't commit to any of them.

What about keto cream? You got sides with spironolactone but did you try diluting it to lessen the sides?

 

[RjiS]

Thank JWM. Also, did you experience any initial shed? If so, when did that taper off?

 

[JWM]

No shed.

 

[blaze]

This is my opinion:

The 1st gen copper peptides (GHK-Cu glycine-histidine-lysine amino acids) where protected by patent owned by Procyte corporation. When the inventor (Dr. Pickart) left Procyte, he couldn't take the formula with him. So he created a 2nd generation line of CP's (AHK-Cu alanine-histidine-lysine amino acids) which are made cheaply using copper chloride and hydrolized soy protein. Folligen is the result. It's definitely more concentrated, but the amino acid copper binding is more random, arguably less targeted, and from what I hear it stains like crazy.

More copper peptide (of the wrong kind) doesn't = better, either.

Again just an opinion. I could be wrong. But I have my suspicions (from info gleaned from other sources.)

For someone who can be quite rude to others for misinformation you are pretty wrong yourself.

Yes, GHK-Cu is the 1st generation copper tripeptide, but Folligen does NOT contain AHK-Cu. The very product your endorsing and are using contains AHK-Cu. Which is also a copper tripeptide and is a GHK-Cu analogue.

You are right Folligen does contain the cheaply made copper chloride and hydrolized soy protein to form their Copper Peptides. But make no mistake, AHK-Cu has nothing to do with Folligen. AHK-Cu is Tricmoin, and is quite expensive to make.