Rogain, Topically, Causing Hair Loss For Nordic Fine Hair.

Dennis Garber

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About 2 or 3 years ago, I started noticing thinning hair. So, I broke down and bought Rogaine and Nizoral. This accelerated hair loss.

Stopping and starting Rogaine has confirmed rogaine, topically, is causing me to loose hair.... Independently, 1000 miles away, I learned last summer, my brother had same rogaine conclusion. Note that we both have angel fine blond hair, he is a bit older than I. Having, stuck longer to the rogaine, I probably have damaged my hair worse than he.

Googling, I am not alone. I assume blond fine straight hair, is reason. Curly, dark hair is totally different, then you have African hair, Asian hair. I look at Italians as a world apart, hairwise. Nordic hair, possibly.

I know in the beginning, I was using Ketoconazole, until I had to sell blood to pay for the tenth bottle in 12 months. I do believe rogaine irritates my scalp.

Orally, it would be fine. But, only know all ingredients are safe to consume, just only read on thread where one whacko drank one fifth a ml per day or half day. Never researched taking it Orally. Except back in 91, I watched a gym friend regrow an entire head of fine hair while orally taking rogaine.
 

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Minoxidil doesn't stop your hairloss... it is a growth stimulant. What you need for your hair (especially if your hairloss is aggresive) is to add an anti-androgen. Without one your hair will be pretty much gone. So, due to the fact that it doesn't stop the balding process, of course you will continue to bald if you aren't taking anything to prevent it.

How old are you?
 

Dennis Garber

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I am realizing now, after reading up all yesterday, that it just maximizes growth. Also, weird 6 month periods of baldness lasting up to six months....Really no information on this latter period: no length, no documentation that quantifies any of it.

I am also just realizing I may have been taking an actual dose of 5mg minoxidil orally, for last 16 years and not realizing it. Long story, quite boring, really. Anyway, topically applying it may have overdosed the scalp, when I started the topical regime 3 or 4 years ago.

Doctor, that my insurance provides, won't prescribe finasteride, antibototics. Something about world population control--not sure I understood the obfuscated argument. All I got, is that I was supposed to die, be poor, and not propagate, to save the planet.

Anyway, I got my fingers resting on the shoulder of Half a Century. My only antiandrogen available appears to be a sulforaphane and vit e and selenium, along with saw palmetto. sulforaphane appears to work the best.

btw, I never saw hair thinning, until I broke down and started eating a small amount of cheese daily. Stuff works on my opioid receptors, probably need suboxone or methodone to completely break the cheese habit and fully grow my hair.
 
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Alphalete

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Get finasteride online then... considering you mentioned being at the gym during 91, I'm guessing you're atleast 35-40 therefore I doubt u'll experience any sides.

Finasteride ain't expensive, a few website even sell 180 tablets for 35£
 

Dennis Garber

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Get finasteride online then... considering you mentioned being at the gym during 91, I'm guessing you're atleast 35-40 therefore I doubt u'll experience any sides.

Finasteride ain't expensive, a few website even sell 180 tablets for 35£

Yeah, worried about being banned, since the originating website sells finasteride at a huge premium.

I was trying to figure out my safe options for buying. evopharm seems highly recommended and aren't scalping. Cost is an issue, since I want to get at least a 2 to 5 year supply at one shot, without risking too much time, account information, or money. ...Yes, I would be open to cheap finasteride source. ... Looks like .2 mg finasteride works as well as 5mg. So one pill could last 25 days. Dividing would easily work by dissolving in 60 ml of old rogaine container, and do the math. Another approach is divide into 16 parts. I guess every 3 days is enough to disrupt some formation of some protein.

I still think other strategy will be needed than just finasteride/rogaine/sawpalmetto/vit e/sulforaphane/ketconazole, after reading up on how many people have a lukewarm experience with finasteride.
 

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What do you mean by banned? Thousands of people purchase from these websites daily, doubt anything is illegal or am I incorrect?
 

Dennis Garber

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I see many people banned on this forum. Evo, for example.

Legality, probably varies between states and countries. It would be arrogant to think a local rule applies globally.

My mother has a donut hole in her insurance every xx weeks, where she cannot afford Byetta for her diabetes and some other med. She could die. Yet, ordering outside the US to get affordable med is considered illegal. I am always amazed how these regulatory agencies can kill and harm people, while every dictum promotes monopolies, and they aren't held legally liable. Sure, I think it great when their rules help, but geeze. build in flexibility, loopholes, accomodations, to keep those same regs from harming people. -- Cupidity can be fixed by random testing; Stupidity, by random publishing those results.

In the US, you could theoretically go to prison for finding a cure for the common cold. That is, if you are not a doctor (advice is practicing medicine without a license), using some off the shelf product in a manner inconsistent with the label. And, you don't have the 100 million to pass the FDA trials, hire lawyers, and bring to market. ... (Pray you never come up with some obvious topical cure for a bacterial cold, residing in the sinuses or throat, that resembles neosproin mechanism-you could go to prison. Unless you are part of big pharma, then you can do it. But probably will not, as all these products exist otc. and what ever forumula you patent, will not prevent other formulations and applicator delivery.)
 
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