Regret Taking Propecia... Really Am Looking For Advice/guidance

WelchAllyn

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So I noticed my temple recession pretty well 2 years ago (I am 22). Initially, I did what I’m sure most do and freaked out. I would be constantly looking at my hair and seeing if it had progressed. I ultimately knew that there were essentially 2 options for fighting this (Propecia & Rogaine + nizoral, of course). Although I was worried about it, I knew that it was still minimal and that I had thick hair that I have had trouble styling forever. I would say I was a Norwood 1.5/2, but there will be others who will say Norwood 1 or “mature,” you can call it what you will.

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[prior to starting treatment]

The reason for my obsession, however, was not necessarily the state of my hair at that time, but rather the idea of its progression going into the future (as I’m sure many of us young guys can agree upon). There is a history of baldness in my family; mom’s dad was a NW3 into his 40’s and went south from there, his son aka my uncle lost his hair early on. But prior to noticing my recession, I had gone through an emotional breakup and attributed the loss to that.

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I took no action all through the summer but continued to monitor. Fast forward to a few months into first semester and I think that I notice my left temple thinning (you can decide for yourself, pic attached). Instead of making a rationale decision, I jumped on finasteride hoping that it would halt the loss and maintain what I had for many years to come. I read about finasteride sheds and genuinely felt mentally prepared for it and thought it would hardly impact me due to my extremely thick hair.

Well I was on finasteride for 12 months and had to drop it 5 months ago. Now please, before saying “2 years until it reaches its peak,” just hear me out and why I don’t think that finasteride is for me and, frankly, why I regret taking it.

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2 weeks into finasteride I noticed my hair was thinner, which is way too soon for anything to happen in my opinion. I also had an abnormally high sex drive for me. My back also broke out with acne, which has never been a problem for me in the past. I am not suggesting that I had reflex hyperandrogenicity, these were just my symptoms (along with watery semen and, ironically, no morning wood, which had both seemed like more “normal” reactions from what I’ve read).

I continued on with finasteride and noticed month after month of more loss and gradual thinning. My hair also just felt more dead and weak compared to baseline, which I know is a subjective claim, so you will have to choose whether you believe me or not. I hoped forever that this “shed” would subside, bringing me back to baseline and reserving what I had for many years. Unfortunately, this was not the case.

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These are recent pics that I feel as though demonstrate the hit my hairline has taken.

My left temple took the biggest hit (gradual, diffuse thinning second). 12 months of continuous, accelerated hair loss. Now, I can say with certainty that this rate of loss was abnormal for me and not my balding gene’s normal progression. So for ME, as well as others I have read about, finasteride accelerated hair loss.

But please do not mistake my post as a means to bash finasteride or advise other not to take it. This is my experience only and am fully aware of the benefits this drug has had for other people.

So now I am at a crossroads. Do I try rogaine, which seems to involve even more “shedding.” Try dutasteride, which involves (potentially) serious sexual sides and, yet again, “shedding.” I talked to a derm and he said stay on finasteride and use rogaine all over the scalp. I have not taken action and am trying to make a rationale decision due to rushing into one last time.

Currently, I am a distinct NW2 with now diffuse thinning (my hair appear thick, but you will again have to trust me that the shaft of the hairs are weak, and my scalp is very easy to see through the hairs relative to before finasteride).

I also know that there will be people who say I’m overreacting and my hair isn’t bad and on and on. Please try and be empathetic towards my situation and provide constructive advice. I am clearly heading towards higher on the Norwood scale and this newly developed thinning has not shown any signs of letting up.

I am seeking advice in hopes of avoiding making a poor decision.
 

Retinoid

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I believe you experienced what you say but I do not see any changes in the pictures...people on here make it seem like they have one strand of hair left and if they lose that one strand they're done for. If you do not want to use Finasteride then I would start with the Rogaine and Nizoral. Yes, it will make you shed. If you do not want to use these treatments you can always check on alternative treatments such as Rosemary+Peppermint oil, head massage, Red light treatment, PG protocols, etc.
 

Sliceofbread

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I may have had something similar?

How much are you shedding? Does your head itch?

Although I really see no change on your pictures
 

WelchAllyn

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First off, thank you to you both for your quick replies and Retinoid for your suggestions.

I would obviously love to be able to pop a pill every morning and forget about my hair loss troubles. Although, personally, I do not believe i’ll be so lucky. What bothers me currently is looking back, my hair loss, although apparent to me at the time, seems very minimal compared to now. If I try again with a lower dosage of propecia (0.5 for example) and mix in rogaine (tried nizoral briefly, just dries out my hair @ 2x/week), will I look back at my situation now and again feel as though the damage was previously minimal? The unknown and future progression truly is the catalyst of many hair loss related decisions imo.

SliceofBread, although I can admit I hyperanalzye myself (not in an obsessive, irrational manor, though), I truly noticed general thinning within the first 2 weeks of finasteride. However, there was never a time where I noticed an increased in shedding specifically. It just seemed that as time went on, my hair progressively was more thin. I never looked down at my hands or on my pillow for that matter and thought, “wow, I’m losing too many hairs.”

I am sorry to have heard you have had a similar reaction. I really don’t know what to do moving forward. I have given this 5 months of thought as to ensure I am not being irrational or that I don’t make a poor decision. My hair quality is definitely at its worst; I believe that if I were to buzz my head, the thinning and recession would be apparent relative to before starting treatment. The current length of my hair, though, creates this false illusion of thickness—I’m sure you can all appreciate why I wouldn’t buzz my head for the purpose of your understanding. A man still needs to carry on with his day-to-day life.

If anyone has had a similar reaction, I would love to hear your opinion. I can confidently say that regardless of my decisions moving forward, I will be updating this forum as to how things are progressing.
 

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Its hard to tell from the pictures for me. I dont see much of a difference. Personally I would get on finasteride, and not even look at my hair again until 12 months later. Then maybe its worse or better but your doing all that can be done giving the best shot. Then give it another year. Id say at year 2 if its worse that you probably dont respond, and sadly probably a waste of money using it. The problem is alternatives are very few and cant match it which is why everyone still uses it
 

Retinoid

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I agree with the above. If you are still noticing thinning go back on Finasteride. You can use .25mg/day and if you are noticing extreme oily skin and acne add in .5mg of Duasteride every 5 days.

I do not want to say people's hair never gets worse but on this forum it seems like EVEERYONE'S hair gets worse when it doesn't really make sense on why it would make the hair worse.

A year is enough to know if Finasteride is right for you however and if it is was not, then you can always try the Duasteride twice/week at .25-.5mg as maybe 5AR1 plays a bigger roll for you. Since it is usually a liquid gel you'd have to pour the liquid in an alcohol solution to take half the dose.

Also I would add some sort of growth simulator...Minoxidil, essential oils, what not. If you just want to do this as well and skip the DHT blockers this should be fine too for now.
 
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WelchAllyn

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I’m disappointed that the pictures I took do not demonstrate the extent to which my hair has declined. My main concern is that prior to taking finasteride, my hair really hadn’t shown signs of further decline (aside from that slight temple thinning on my left side). I know that since then, my left temple has really taken a major hit while the right seems to have maintained itself. This new diffuse loss pattern has also left me with concerns regarding when things will “stabalize,” which was always the goal with taking finasteride.

Do you guys think a lower dosage of finasteride could be beneficial? I was thinking that maybe a full pill is too much for me and that I could benefit from taking 0.5. But, frankly, this isn’t based on anything other than a “gut” feeling. I agree that maybe it is time to start min. I’m just worried that the new state of my hair (thin) make for an easy shed and who knows what will return in terms of quality.

If I were to use it, would you guys suggest foam all over the scalp or just mainly the temples? I have also seen that the liquid at night has been useful to some, but it may come with more side effects due to the alcohol (dandruff + irritation). That is something I will have to see if it is in fact an issue. I suppose I should technically be using rogaine whenever I see thinning, so maybe it is appropriate to use it all over the top of my head.

Again, thank you all for your input. It sucks to have to deal with this issue as early as many of us did. The dream would be to have a reputable hair transplant surgeon preform a few FUE procedures and never have to worry about this again. Although, I am fully aware that unless I become NW7 by the time I’m 25, that wouldn’t be until waaaaaaay down the line.
 

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Well, since finasteride is a proven drug against male pattern baldness (and shedding while starting treatment is often a good sign).

Start finasteride
Start minoxidil

Stay on course for at leat 6 months

I shed ALOT of hair when first starting finasteride (by that time I had been on rogaine for at least 9 year so shed was not because of that).

Also, trim down your hair and it won't make you as obsessed over shedding.

The hair will come back stronger. That is more or less always the rule.
 
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