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Pavi

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im really depressed guys. My hair situation has turned 180 and I don't know why. All I do is cry in my room and I'm so sad. I just needed to vent guys. Why do I have to experience this at 20? I began at 16. It isn't f*****g fair
 

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Didn't you just start thyroid meds? I wouldn't be surprised if that caused a temporary shed.
 

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Pavi, honestly, you may need therapy. That's not normal to be that upset over hair. Until I joined this forum I had never seen the type of self-loathing associated with hair-loss in my life. Many of my friends started losing their hair at 18 and they just shaved it and got on with life. Some tried products but none sat at home and sulked.

I really think the root problem for many people on here is low self-esteem regardless of hair. I hope that along with your hair care you find a good therapist. Nothing is worth that type of depression. If you really want to do something then I think finasteride or dutasteride are your only options. Aside from that, just shave it or use minoxidil and rock your hair until you can't anymore. Either way, go out and enjoy your life.

I've seen people with cancer and real life tragedies deal better than some of these guys.
 

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I have severe thyroid disease. The meds won't cause the shed but the thyroid will. If you have thyroid disease, Pavi, that's your answer to shedding.
 

Pavi

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Didn't you just start thyroid meds? I wouldn't be surprised if that caused a temporary shed.

I do have thyroid disease. I have been using meds since February but recently added T3 as well as T4. I don't feel hyperthyroid either, so I'm not overdosing
 

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I have severe thyroid disease. The meds won't cause the shed but the thyroid will. If you have thyroid disease, Pavi, that's your answer to shedding.

Anecdotally, I've found that anything that alters your hormonal balance can cause your hair to shed some your body adjusts
 

Pavi

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Pavi, honestly, you may need therapy. That's not normal to be that upset over hair. Until I joined this forum I had never seen the type of self-loathing associated with hair-loss in my life. Many of my friends started losing their hair at 18 and they just shaved it and got on with life. Some tried products but none sat at home and sulked.

I really think the root problem for many people on here is low self-esteem regardless of hair. I hope that along with your hair care you find a good therapist. Nothing is worth that type of depression. If you really want to do something then I think finasteride or dutasteride are your only options. Aside from that, just shave it or use minoxidil and rock your hair until you can't anymore. Either way, go out and enjoy your life.

I've seen people with cancer and real life tragedies deal better than some of these guys.

I have never had trouble getting girls at all. I have always been considered very attractive and this is destroying Me. It's so hard
 

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I would agree that any changes with thyroid will cause shedding. The thyroid is a nightmare. I'm at a TSH of 50 right now. Not .50 like 50.0 out of a .450-4.50 scale. But I only shed when I'm hyper typically
 

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I would agree that any changes with thyroid will cause shedding. The thyroid is a nightmare. I'm at a TSH of 50 right now. Not .50 like 50.0 out of a .450-4.50 scale. But I only shed when I'm hyper typically

So do you think it will stabilize? I have been on T3 (Liothyronine) for a week and a half now
 

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Pavi, I don't doubt you're good looking. That should make you feel even better about your prospects with or without hair
 

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So do you think it will stabilize? I have been on T3 (Liothyronine) for a week and a half now

Oh it will def stabilize. What's your TSH, FT3 or FT4 #'s?

I actually have hyperthyroidism. But they always give me too much anti-thyroid medicine (methimazole) trying to correct my dose and I swing hypothyroid.
 

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Oh it will def stabilize. What's your TSH, FT3 or FT4 #'s?

I actually have hyperthyroidism. But they always give me too much anti-thyroid medicine (methimazole) trying to correct my dose and I swing hypothyroid.

I was sub clinical hypothyroid.

On medicine:

TSH 2.14
FT3 3.1
FT4 1.0


Since adding T3 I haven't tested but I will soon
 

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I was sub clinical hypothyroid.

On medicine:

TSH 2.14
FT3 3.1
FT4 1.0


Since adding T3 I haven't tested but I will soon
Assuming your scales are similar to mine with FT4 being 0.80-1.8 you are right in the sweet spot. That's great. My Derm always says it takes up to 6 months of stable thyroid numbers to get shedding stabilization. I found it takes much less. Also, they always assure me while you will shed due to the thyroid, you won't go bald.

For the longest time I was convinced it was the meds causing the shed until I stopped taking them and found out it was the meds stopping it because I lost a lot of hair.

I think you may have found the reason you're shedding. This should make you feel relieved. As soon as you said you have thyroid problems I thought "hold on" that's important, it changes everything. Because if you google Hairloss causes. One of the first listed reasons everytime is thyroid disorders. It's a very well known cause.

Good news: Hairloss due to thyroid and medication will almost certainly always grow back.

They told me it takes about a month for thyroid medicine to fully work. This is because while it works on your thyroid immediately, your old thyroid hormone is still cycling in your blood.

Also, thyroid disorders wreak havoc on your mood and depression.
 

Pavi

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Assuming your scales are similar to mine with FT4 being 0.80-1.8 you are right in the sweet spot. That's great. My Derm always says it takes up to 6 months of stable thyroid numbers to get shedding stabilization. I found it takes much less. Also, they always assure me while you will shed due to the thyroid, you won't go bald.

For the longest time I was convinced it was the meds causing the shed until I stopped taking them and found out it was the meds stopping it because I lost a lot of hair.

I think you may have found the reason you're shedding. This should make you feel relieved. As soon as you said you have thyroid problems I thought "hold on" that's important, it changes everything. Because if you google Hairloss causes. One of the first listed reasons everytime is thyroid disorders. It's a very well known cause.

Good news: Hairloss due to thyroid and medication will almost certainly always grow back.

They told me it takes about a month for thyroid medicine to fully work. This is because while it works on your thyroid immediately, your old thyroid hormone is still cycling I'm your blood.

Also, thyroid disorders wreak havoc on your mood and depression.

Thanks for such a long response. I actually have thyroid disease and male pattern baldness. Ever since I had thyroid issues my male pattern baldness became diffuse, which I hope is the thyroid. It does make sense that my thyroid medicine could cause this shed, since I just started the T3 and I was very stable on the minoxidil and T4. I added T3 because my FT3 was decreasing and my symptoms weren't getting better
 

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Thanks for such a long response. I actually have thyroid disease and male pattern baldness. Ever since I had thyroid issues my male pattern baldness became diffuse, which I hope is the thyroid. It does make sense that my thyroid medicine could cause this shed, since I just started the T3 and I was very stable on the minoxidil and T4. I added T3 because my FT3 was decreasing and my symptoms weren't getting better

No problem. I've had thyroid disease- technically Graves' Disease if you want to look it up since 2005. I am very familiar with it and anytime you have a question let me know.

Thyroid shedding is diffuse! I know it's easy to believe it's the medicine causing the shed but I assure you it's your thyroid itself. Either from being subclinical which typically means your TSH is out of range but your FT3 and FT4 is in range or you will experience shedding from the swinging/adjusting of your thyroid to your medicine dose. In other words, bringing it from out of range to in range.

BTW, always use your TSH as your true thyroid indicator. It's been the most accurate metric to what is really going on in my experience.
 

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i feel your pain pavi. ive always had f*****g great hair , i'm a semi pro surfer , and i'm 23 , and since having hairloss i'm f*****g depressed and i barely go outside my home .
 

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im really depressed guys. My hair situation has turned 180 and I don't know why. All I do is cry in my room and I'm so sad. I just needed to vent guys. Why do I have to experience this at 20? I began at 16. It isn't f*****g fair

Hey man I'm sorry to hear that this is happening. To be honest I think you may just be going through another shed which is completely normal, it happened to me 5 months into treatment and is starting to slow down now over 6 months on treatment. It takes the hairs a few hair cycles to die from DHT and it takes a few hair cycles to bring them back stronger. I have also read that a lot of guys seem to be shedding, some even believing that it is some kind of seasonal shed. Personally if I were you I would get on Finasteride for a piece of mind.
 
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