Hi all,
I had been on the big 3 for about 9 months, but had to quit finasteride due to side effects (gyno, limp, pain) and I've gone the topical route. spironolactone was now my main anti-dht (for the past 6 months) and sadly, my hair has thinned considerably. Lately, I've tried topical finasteride at a lower dosage, and I appear to be tolerating it.
Now, because my DHT levels won't be as suppressed as it would be with the full 1.25mg dose, it is my hope that spironolactone can compensate for the difference without the side effects. With a bit more research, I've devised a some "half home-made" topical solutions I'd like to share:
Minfin
Proven DHT suppression and growth stimulation
5% Minoxidil
Finasteride
Dissolve 3 tablets of Proscar (total of 15mg) into a bottle of minoxidil (60ml) overnight. This will hopefully prevent DHT formation in the follicle - but will have a somewhat lesser effect systematically. It is unknown whether follicle DHT production, or general serum DHT is what causes the most damage.
Azibesix
Speculated DHT suppression and growth stimulation
Zinc
Vitamin B6
Magnesium
Atp
Creatine
Inosine
Azelaic Acid
Dissolve 5 tablet of this and 10g of this and into 60ml of water. Why all these and not just spironolactone? Because the stuff stinks and frankly you can't use it during the day. What you do have to use with this solution is a 20% Azelaic acid anti-pimple cream (like this). After applying azibesix, get a small amount of of the cream and rub it in. Apparently azelaic acid, zinc and vitB6 when combined become a strong DHT inhibitor. Second, adenosine (ATP) has been shown to promote growth (the shisedo study). All those other "contaminants" are there (eg creatine, magnesium) because I can't find more pure solutions where I live.
I haven't made an attempt to make this solution yet - I just purchased the ingredients - so there may be problems with residue or precipitation. The reason you don't want to be dissolving those vitamin tablets into minoxidil is that they are absolutely insoluble in water.
Ok, so for a sample regime:
Morning:
Apply azibsix (1ml) first and allow to dry. Next comes minfin (1ml) and finally seal it all in with a small amount of azelaic acid cream.
Night:
Apply azibisix (1ml) first and dry. Then comes minfin (1ml), and seal it all off with 5% spironolactone cream (eg from minoxidil.com).
Shampoo (on rotation):
Nizoral (ketoconazole)
Head and Shoulders (zinc pyrithione)
Selsun Blue 5 (selenium Sulfide)
What do you guys think? Have I been smoking too much?
I had been on the big 3 for about 9 months, but had to quit finasteride due to side effects (gyno, limp, pain) and I've gone the topical route. spironolactone was now my main anti-dht (for the past 6 months) and sadly, my hair has thinned considerably. Lately, I've tried topical finasteride at a lower dosage, and I appear to be tolerating it.
Now, because my DHT levels won't be as suppressed as it would be with the full 1.25mg dose, it is my hope that spironolactone can compensate for the difference without the side effects. With a bit more research, I've devised a some "half home-made" topical solutions I'd like to share:
Minfin
Proven DHT suppression and growth stimulation
5% Minoxidil
Finasteride
Dissolve 3 tablets of Proscar (total of 15mg) into a bottle of minoxidil (60ml) overnight. This will hopefully prevent DHT formation in the follicle - but will have a somewhat lesser effect systematically. It is unknown whether follicle DHT production, or general serum DHT is what causes the most damage.
Azibesix
Speculated DHT suppression and growth stimulation
Zinc
Vitamin B6
Magnesium
Atp
Creatine
Inosine
Azelaic Acid
Dissolve 5 tablet of this and 10g of this and into 60ml of water. Why all these and not just spironolactone? Because the stuff stinks and frankly you can't use it during the day. What you do have to use with this solution is a 20% Azelaic acid anti-pimple cream (like this). After applying azibesix, get a small amount of of the cream and rub it in. Apparently azelaic acid, zinc and vitB6 when combined become a strong DHT inhibitor. Second, adenosine (ATP) has been shown to promote growth (the shisedo study). All those other "contaminants" are there (eg creatine, magnesium) because I can't find more pure solutions where I live.
I haven't made an attempt to make this solution yet - I just purchased the ingredients - so there may be problems with residue or precipitation. The reason you don't want to be dissolving those vitamin tablets into minoxidil is that they are absolutely insoluble in water.
Ok, so for a sample regime:
Morning:
Apply azibsix (1ml) first and allow to dry. Next comes minfin (1ml) and finally seal it all in with a small amount of azelaic acid cream.
Night:
Apply azibisix (1ml) first and dry. Then comes minfin (1ml), and seal it all off with 5% spironolactone cream (eg from minoxidil.com).
Shampoo (on rotation):
Nizoral (ketoconazole)
Head and Shoulders (zinc pyrithione)
Selsun Blue 5 (selenium Sulfide)
What do you guys think? Have I been smoking too much?
