Questions on Prox-N and NANO shampoo

[Ouroboros]

Hello all,

I am thinking about adding Prox-N and/or NANO shampoo to my regimen and I have a few questions.

1) What is the story with side effects for either or both of these products? (Note that this is the version without minoxidil). Could these be added to to regimen that aims to be as natural as possible and side-effect free?

2) It said on the dr. proctor's site that Prox-N works in a way somehow similar to Mixon; will this create a dependency as in "minoxidil dependent hair" and any regrowth will be lost if treatment stops? Now; I am aware that if you stop any treatment hair will gradually regress once more; but I always got the feeling that with minoxidil this was more pronounced; as in the hair minoxidil regrows is somehow "fake", and the body just like ejects these once minoxidil is removed; as opposed to male pattern baldness just gradually taking root again. If Prox-N will have this dependency I'm not interested (I'm just weird like that).


Any advice you could offer would be much appreciated. Thank you.

 

[Ouroboros]

Anyone?

 

[hair_tomorrow]

Anyone?

I don't want to start a riot on the board as there are a lot of Nano / Prox-N lovers out there.

My experience with both products was that they weren't worth the money.

Nano was a very nice thickening shampoo, but in my experience didn't help w/ regrowth.

Prox-n, yes - if it works for you and then you stop using it - all gains are lost eventually.

 

[Ouroboros]

Thanks for getting back to me: so Prox-N is off the table.

Still on the fence about the NANO shampoo/conditioner though; you said it didnt help with regrowth; but doesn't it have copper peptides and such? (I see that on your regimen). Thanks.

 

[techprof]

IMHO
Using prox-N for one year and stopping it after that could still help you as it helps in rebuilding your scalp.

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

Anyone?

I don't want to start a riot on the board as there are a lot of Nano / Prox-N lovers out there.

My experience with both products was that they weren't worth the money.

Nano was a very nice thickening shampoo, but in my experience didn't help w/ regrowth.

Prox-n, yes - if it works for you and then you stop using it - all gains are lost eventually.

how long did you use the NANO shampoo for?
Ive been using it for roughly 3 months now...so its too early to tell.

 

[Sean68]

like most products out there prox-n and nano just thicken your hair and make your scalp feel nice rather than maintaining or regrowing any hair.
the difference is that dr proctor doesnt lie about it.

 

[hair_tomorrow]

[quote="hair_tomorrow":aa603]

Anyone?

I don't want to start a riot on the board as there are a lot of Nano / Prox-N lovers out there.

My experience with both products was that they weren't worth the money.

Nano was a very nice thickening shampoo, but in my experience didn't help w/ regrowth.

Prox-n, yes - if it works for you and then you stop using it - all gains are lost eventually.

how long did you use the NANO shampoo for?
Ive been using it for roughly 3 months now...so its too early to tell.[/quote:aa603]

The 1st time around I used it religiously for a little over 1 year. Then took a long break and used it for perhaps another year. Like I said, t's a wonderful shampoo wth some thickening properties - but for the results I got, it wasn't worth the expense.

On the other hand - there's only a few shampoos out here designed to fight hairloss and Nano is one of them - so I'd hate for you to not use it just because it didn't have a miraculous outcome for me.

 

[Bryan]

like most products out there prox-n and nano just thicken your hair and make your scalp feel nice rather than maintaining or regrowing any hair.
the difference is that dr proctor doesnt lie about it.

Uhh....if a product were able to THICKEN my hair, I would have to classify that as maintaining and/or regrowing hair. Wouldn't you?

 

[Sean68]

no i mean thickening individual strands rather than stopping it falling out so what you have left is thicker. thats what dr proctor says in his prox-n booklet.

 

[Bryan]

no i mean thickening individual strands rather than stopping it falling out so what you have left is thicker. thats what dr proctor says in his prox-n booklet.

Yes. That's what I would call "maintaining" and/or "regrowing". Wouldn't you?

 

[Sean68]

i know what you mean but i didnt think his products actually stopped your hair falling out. it does say that his treatments wont slow the rate of loss but thickens your individual hairs.

im sure you know more than i do about dr proctor im just quoting my interpretation of his booklet.

 

[Bryan]

i know what you mean but i didnt think his products actually stopped your hair falling out. it does say that his treatments wont slow the rate of loss but thickens your individual hairs.

I don't understand why you're trying to make some kind of distinction between "the rate of loss" and "thickening your hair". The balding process is intimately associated with a gradual miniaturization of hair follicles and the hairs they grow, so any drug therapy that is able to reverse that miniaturization by thickening hair is indeed attacking that balding process in _some_ way, including NANO shampoo and Prox-N.

 

[Sean68]

ok. say if you use some kind of thickening conditioner or...whatever that would thicken your hair. that wouldnt affect the balding process it would just give a cosmetic thickening effect to your hair. are you saying that prox-n/nano thicken the hair by reversing the miniaturisation? thats a totally different thing.

 

[Bryan]

It just now struck me that what he said in his Prox-N/NANO booklet probably just has to do with what he's had to explain to people for years, which is that EVERYBODY (balding or not) loses a certain number of hairs every day. He was always having to explain on alt.baldspot that using medical treatments for male pattern baldness won't (generally) affect the number of hairs that are lost every day.

 

[Bryan]

ok. say if you use some kind of thickening conditioner or...whatever that would thicken your hair. that wouldnt affect the balding process it would just give a cosmetic thickening effect to your hair. are you saying that prox-n/nano thicken the hair by reversing the miniaturisation? thats a totally different thing.

Sure! That's the whole point of using growth stimulants like NANO and copper-peptides!

 

[Sean68]

he should put that in the booklet!

 

[Ouroboros]

Okay, in regards to just the NANO shampoo itself; since it also has copper peptides in addition to NANO; does that mean its equally or more effective than things like Tricomin? Thanks.

 

[Sean68]

personally id rather use nano than tricomin yeah.

 

[Ouroboros]

Does the copper peptide approach have any risk of sides?