PROVEN to lower DHT -Alphastat (Mytosterone) -Anyone tried?

rwhairlosstalk

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Has anyone tried this? Here is a study performed on it with proven results.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18700016


An open label, dose response study to determine the effect of a dietary supplement on dihydrotestosterone, testosterone and estradiol levels in healthy males.

Abstract
BACKGROUND:

Maintaining endogenous testosterone (T) levels as men age may slow the symptoms of sarcopenia, andropause and decline in physical performance. Drugs inhibiting the enzyme 5alpha-reductase (5AR) produce increased blood levels of T and decreased levels of dihydrotestosterone (DHT). However, symptoms of gynecomastia have been reported due to the aromatase (AER) enzyme converting excess T to estradiol (ES). The carotenoid astaxanthin (AX) from Haematococcus pluvialis, Saw Palmetto berry lipid extract (SPLE) from Serenoa repens and the precise combination of these dietary supplements, Alphastat(R) (Mytosterone(trade mark)), have been reported to have inhibitory effects on both 5AR and AER in-vitro. Concomitant regulation of both enzymes in-vivo would cause DHT and ES blood levels to decrease and T levels to increase. The purpose of this clinical study was to determine if patented Alphastat(R) (Mytosterone(trade mark)) could produce these effects in a dose dependent manner.
METHODS:

To investigate this clinically, 42 healthy males ages 37 to 70 years were divided into two groups of twenty-one and dosed with either 800 mg/day or 2000 mg/day of Alphastat(R) (Mytosterone(trade mark)) for fourteen days. Blood samples were collected on days 0, 3, 7 and 14 and assayed for T, DHT and ES. Body weight and blood pressure data were collected prior to blood collection. One-way, repeated measures analysis of variance (ANOVA-RM) was performed at a significance level of alpha = 0.05 to determine differences from baseline within each group. Two-way analysis of variance (ANOVA-2) was performed after baseline subtraction, at a significance level of alpha = 0.05 to determine differences between dose groups. Results are expressed as means +/- SEM.
RESULTS:

ANOVA-RM showed significant within group increases in serum total T and significant decreases in serum DHT from baseline in both dose groups at a significance level of alpha = 0.05. Significant decreases in serum ES are reported for the 2000 mg/day dose group and not the 800 mg/day dose group. Significant within group effects were confirmed using ANOVA-2 analyses after baseline subtraction. ANOVA-2 analyses also showed no significant difference between dose groups with regard to the increase of T or the decrease of DHT. It did show a significant dose dependant decrease in serum ES levels.
CONCLUSION:

Both dose groups showed significant (p = 0.05) increases in T and decreases in DHT within three days of treatment with Alphastat(R) (Mytosterone(trade mark)). Between group statistical analysis showed no significant (p = 0.05) difference, indicating the effect was not dose dependent and that 800 mg/per day is equally effective as 2000 mg/day for increasing T and lowering DHT. Blood levels of ES however, decreased significantly (p = 0.05) in the 2000 mg/day dose group but not in the 800 mg/day dose group indicating a dose dependant decrease in E levels.
 

rwhairlosstalk

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Re: Alphastat(Mytosterone(trade mark)) Proven to lower DHT

Basically they administered Alphastat in 2 doses 800mg and 2000mg. The tested the blood levels of Testosterone (T), DHT (DHT), and Estradiol (ES), on 3 different days. It says it significantly increased T but lowered DHT. Also at a 2000mg (I don't know who would take that amount) it significantly lowered ES.

If this works, I'd like to try it. But my finances are not infinite, so I'm researching and asking questions as much as possible before I continue spending money on my next investment. I've already spent enough as it is.
 

BenVegas01

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I did look into this, and you can take it as a vitamin - and see what it does.

I think as with many of these studies, the company thats marketing the drug is doing the study. I know thats the way it usually is, but with finasteride or minoxidil, its been confirmed by lots of other tests that have been done. Im not so sure this has.

For example - there was as study done on Vit E ( tocotrienols ). There was a pretty significant incraese in average haircount in the study, with impressive photos. Ive never heard of one person in the forums (including me) gaining hair on tocotrienols.

But if your really interested, why don't you get a hormonal test? Test for serum DHT - take this stuff for a month, then do another serum DHT test? Then you can let us all know :)
 

rwhairlosstalk

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LOL Thanks! You may be right though. I'm going to look more into it, but I see it's on several threads and posts for bodybuilders. Did you find anything of promise while researching?

Well, don't know if I'll get the testing (hey I might) but i may try it and see if it helps my hair.
 

Agahi

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Any place to get the stuff you know of? Ill take it for a bit and let you know what I think.
 

BenVegas01

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Yeah Triarco Industries did the study -

http://www.jissn.com/content/5/1/12

The main ingredient is Astaxanthin and Saw palmetto

You can get Astraxanthin from krill oil, as well as the other many health benifits it provides such as an increase in Omega 3.

According to the study, it works by inhibiting the 5AR enzymes. The question is - if you could do that with a natural substance would you want to? And if so - what would be the difference between taking that and finasteride?
 

Agahi

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Prob no difference. Id do it in addition to finasteride. No way to know for sure if the Astaxanthin is doing anything extra, but I think Ill be able to tell if I start getting results above and beyond what people get with finasteride.
 

HairMetal

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At 2 grams, how much does it is supposed to increase?And how much ES and DHT does it is supposed to descrease?
 

HairMetal

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Agahi said:
Prob no difference. Id do it in addition to finasteride. No way to know for sure if the Astaxanthin is doing anything extra, but I think Ill be able to tell if I start getting results above and beyond what people get with finasteride.

Just do before/after blood tests and you will know..
 

rwhairlosstalk

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Agahi said:
Prob no difference. Id do it in addition to finasteride. No way to know for sure if the Astaxanthin is doing anything extra, but I think Ill be able to tell if I start getting results above and beyond what people get with finasteride.

If you are filling in hair where you were not
Or if it's filling in quicker than the previous rate
then this should tell you it's not hurting and is either doing nothing or accelerating progress.

I'd wait until after 3 mo mark on finasteride before I introduce it. Usually the 3 mo mark you will see progress if there is any.
 

Agahi

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I'm going to go with the 2nd link as it has no saw palmetto on the ingredients and is 200mg of just the Alphastat. Didn't like saw pal when I tried it, and don't want any help the Alph gives (if any) attributed to it.
 

rwhairlosstalk

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^^ Serenoa repens is saw palmetto. And Alphastat IS saw palmetto together with another herb. That's just what it is.

I've had sucess with SP as an adjunt. It reduced the hair loss from about 90 hairs to about 50 a day.
 

Jacob

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Swanson has had theirs on sale before..might have even been a BOGO. Used to say "Alphastat" on the bottle/description...maybe they just make their own combo now.
 
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