propecia year 2

[heynow1234]

Hey guys just finishing year 1 on propecia, my hair has def gotten worse over the year but i feel like propecia has slowed it down, and i dont really think ive lost much over the last two months. That being said, any chance my hair will improve over the 2nd year, or is my best case scenerio to keep my hair the same as it is now. Anybody see improvement in year two? I know on this site it says for many the best results are at the 2 year mark.

My regime
Name brand propecia 1mg from a real pharmacy, havent missed a day over the course of the year.
2% keto Shampoo 3x weekly since october
Nioxin shampoo on days when not use keto

 

[heynow1234]

anyone?

 

[OverMachoGrande]

Well I did get my best results after 1 year so hang in there. Also I notice you are not using minoxidil, any reason? The best regrowth I got was not from Propecia but was from minoxidil. Propecia IMO is great for maintaining and slight regrowth but Minoxidil is actually what regrew alot of hair I had lost.

 

[DHTHater]

Hey guys just finishing year 1 on propecia, my hair has def gotten worse over the year but i feel like propecia has slowed it down, and i dont really think ive lost much over the last two months. That being said, any chance my hair will improve over the 2nd year, or is my best case scenerio to keep my hair the same as it is now. Anybody see improvement in year two? I know on this site it says for many the best results are at the 2 year mark.

My regime
Name brand propecia 1mg from a real pharmacy, havent missed a day over the course of the year.
2% keto Shampoo 3x weekly since october
Nioxin shampoo on days when not use keto

It looks like you're shampooing every day. I would advise against that for a host of reasons. 1. It trashes your hair by stripping it of natural oils, and stressing the hair shaft. 2. You'll see way more shed if you shampoo daily, thus forcing a new cycle for hairs on their last legs. Stick to 3 times a week, and lose the Nioxin. I'd also recommend to toss Nizoral and just get Revita (Revita has 1% Ketoconazole and many other good ingredients), and stick with that 3 times a week. (quarter sized dollop every use lathers nicely).

If you use styling products, I'd say stay far away from most of those because they will actually suffocate hair shafts to death. You will see way more shed with most styling products (Nioxin included). If you have to use one, I'd say go with Jason's Natural Thin-To-Thick Hair Spray. It puts only natural ingredients in your hair, and several of them stimulate hair regrowth/repair. I personally use that to style my hair and feel safe keeping it in my hair all day.

Also, toss red meat from your diet, you don't need any extra free testosterone floating around. Add Biotin supplements if you can. 1 pill daily to bolster hair root strength and facilitate regrowth.

My 2 cents, for whatever its worth.

 

[techprof]

dhthater,

despite bryan's attempts you don't agree about shampooing not having effect on sebum.

if you believe so, it is fine, but why are you spoiling every one by recommending the same.

I request HairLossTalk.com moderators to take a stand here one way or the other. Insisting and harping on something not scientific is not what HairLossTalk.com is known for.

 

[heynow1234]

Hey thanks for the responses, i dont use minoxidil you are correct. The reason being is i feel i would hate using it, and i fear the shed. I think ill regret starting it, but at the same time ill prob regret not starting it if i dont, ive been close to starting twice and decided to hold off.

As in regards to washing my hair everyday, you are correct I do, this being because i have to use hair spray to style my hair in the morning, and i have to shampoo after work to get it out. I use a conditioner in hopes of not drying out the hair too much

 

[Fender89]

DHthater, dude, considering it says on the revita instructions to use atleast 5 times atleast for results, 3 times a week won't help.

 

[heynow1234]

where can i get biotin, is it in vitamins?

 

[DHTHater]

dhthater,

despite bryan's attempts you don't agree about shampooing not having effect on sebum.

if you believe so, it is fine, but why are you spoiling every one by recommending the same.

I request HairLossTalk.com moderators to take a stand here one way or the other. Insisting and harping on something not scientific is not what HairLossTalk.com is known for.

Despite your blind faith in Bryan's quack theories, and arcane claims citing sources he cannot show or prove, Dr. Michelle Hanjani, a dermatologist at Columbia University says otherwise:

"If you wash your hair every day, you're removing the sebum," explains Michelle Hanjani, a dermatologist at Columbia University. "Then the oil glands compensate by producing more oil," she says.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=102062969

I'll take her word for it, as I'm sure HIT staff and the rest of the forum will over Bryan's conveniently unlinkable "quotes", thank you.

DHthater, dude, considering it says on the revita instructions to use atleast 5 times atleast for results, 3 times a week won't help.

And yet, here at the Revita company site, it says use Revita 2-3 times a week.

"To maximize your results with Spectral DNC® we recommend washing your hair every day and using Revita®, our high-performance shampoo two to three times per week. It is important to maintain a healthy scalp if you are suffering from hair loss or thinning hair. Dandruff, grease, or build-up of bacteria on the scalp has been linked to accelerated hair loss."
http://www.divineskin.com/spectralDNC/how2.asp

Did you ever stop to think that maybe they want you to use as much as possible so that you buy more, more often? Hmm..

 

[techprof]

dhthater,

despite bryan's attempts you don't agree about shampooing not having effect on sebum.

if you believe so, it is fine, but why are you spoiling every one by recommending the same.

I request HairLossTalk.com moderators to take a stand here one way or the other. Insisting and harping on something not scientific is not what HairLossTalk.com is known for.

Despite your blind faith in Bryan's quack theories, and arcane claims citing sources he cannot show or prove, Dr. Michelle Hanjani, a dermatologist at Columbia University says otherwise:

"If you wash your hair every day, you're removing the sebum," explains Michelle Hanjani, a dermatologist at Columbia University. "Then the oil glands compensate by producing more oil," she says.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=102062969

I'll take her word for it, as I'm sure HIT staff and the rest of the forum will over Bryan's conveniently unlinkable "quotes", thank you.

DHthater, dude, considering it says on the revita instructions to use atleast 5 times atleast for results, 3 times a week won't help.

And yet, here at the Revita company site, it says use Revita 2-3 times a week.

"To maximize your results with Spectral DNC® we recommend washing your hair every day and using Revita®, our high-performance shampoo two to three times per week. It is important to maintain a healthy scalp if you are suffering from hair loss or thinning hair. Dandruff, grease, or build-up of bacteria on the scalp has been linked to accelerated hair loss."
http://www.divineskin.com/spectralDNC/how2.asp

Did you ever stop to think that maybe they want you to use as much as possible so that you buy more, more often? Hmm..

Dhthater,

Dr. pickart says copper kills dht, dr. Lee claims azelaic acid is an antiandrogen, so should we agree with their unproven claims? Dr. Proctor claims proxiphen is better than propecia and minoxidil (which I don't agree with, though his products have some value).

Let us wait for HairLossTalk.com staff to say who they side with you or Bryan on shampooing, please stop suggesting otherwise to posters. I will do the same (i.e. won't say shampooing doesn't matter).

 

[DHTHater]

dhthater,

despite bryan's attempts you don't agree about shampooing not having effect on sebum.

if you believe so, it is fine, but why are you spoiling every one by recommending the same.

I request HairLossTalk.com moderators to take a stand here one way or the other. Insisting and harping on something not scientific is not what HairLossTalk.com is known for.

Despite your blind faith in Bryan's quack theories, and arcane claims citing sources he cannot show or prove, Dr. Michelle Hanjani, a dermatologist at Columbia University says otherwise:

"If you wash your hair every day, you're removing the sebum," explains Michelle Hanjani, a dermatologist at Columbia University. "Then the oil glands compensate by producing more oil," she says.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=102062969

I'll take her word for it, as I'm sure HIT staff and the rest of the forum will over Bryan's conveniently unlinkable "quotes", thank you.

DHthater, dude, considering it says on the revita instructions to use atleast 5 times atleast for results, 3 times a week won't help.

And yet, here at the Revita company site, it says use Revita 2-3 times a week.

"To maximize your results with Spectral DNC® we recommend washing your hair every day and using Revita®, our high-performance shampoo two to three times per week. It is important to maintain a healthy scalp if you are suffering from hair loss or thinning hair. Dandruff, grease, or build-up of bacteria on the scalp has been linked to accelerated hair loss."
http://www.divineskin.com/spectralDNC/how2.asp

Did you ever stop to think that maybe they want you to use as much as possible so that you buy more, more often? Hmm..

Dhthater,

Dr. pickart says copper kills dht, dr. Lee claims azelaic acid is an antiandrogen, so should we agree with their unproven claims? Dr. Proctor claims proxiphen is better than propecia and minoxidil (which I don't agree with, though his products have some value).

Let us wait for HairLossTalk.com staff to say who they side with you or Bryan on shampooing, please stop suggesting otherwise to posters. I will do the same (i.e. won't say shampooing doesn't matter).

I'll continue to quote the words of professional dermatologists on the matter providing links to my sources, and as often as I like as I'm entirely within TOS to do so. Maybe you and "Bryan" (I'm growing increasingly suspicious you two are the same person) should hold off until you actually have linkable quotes (can cite credible/reliable sources for all to see) on the same matter.

Good day.

 

[techprof]

ok,

do your job of promoting fast information. Unlike you I don't have time to waste and fight with you on this silly matter.

no bryan and I are not same.

rest to HairLossTalk.com staff.

 

[DHTHater]

ok,

do your job of promoting fast information. Unlike you I don't have time to waste and fight with you on this silly matter.

no bryan and I are not same.

rest to HairLossTalk.com staff.

I don't care to "promote" any information, only to correct the misinformation that Bryan (you) is spouting, and remind people that the conventional wisdom, and actual Dermatologist's informed opinion on excessive shampooing and sebum production conflicts with his (your) fringe, quacky claims.

 

[OverMachoGrande]

ok,

do your job of promoting fast information. Unlike you I don't have time to waste and fight with you on this silly matter.

no bryan and I are not same.

rest to HairLossTalk.com staff.

I don't care to "promote" any information, only to correct the misinformation that Bryan (you) is spouting, and remind people that the conventional wisdom, and actual Dermatologist's informed opinion on excessive shampooing and sebum production conflicts with his (your) fringe, quacky claims.

Bryan and techprof are NOT the same person, this I can assure you for a fact.

 

[DHTHater]

ok,

do your job of promoting fast information. Unlike you I don't have time to waste and fight with you on this silly matter.

no bryan and I are not same.

rest to HairLossTalk.com staff.

I don't care to "promote" any information, only to correct the misinformation that Bryan (you) is spouting, and remind people that the conventional wisdom, and actual Dermatologist's informed opinion on excessive shampooing and sebum production conflicts with his (your) fringe, quacky claims.

Bryan and techprof are NOT the same person, this I can assure you for a fact.

Well either way, making assertions that conflict with what the mainstream medical community understands about overshampooing, and citing arcane sources that conveniently can't be linked for anyone to corroborate isn't very compelling. Especially since links are plentiful showing actual Dermatologists say otherwise.

 

[heynow1234]

how did this topic go from me asking a question about year two on propecie, to a fight about shampooing? :dunno:

 

[OverMachoGrande]

how did this topic go from me asking a question about year two on propecie, to a fight about shampooing? :dunno:

Great point! We now return this thread back to it's original topic.

 

[Spanishlad]

my hair got worse throughout year 1 i only saw positive results at about 14 months and now 2 years in hair is getting better and better. i think you have to give propecia 2 years to be sure if its working or not.. if i had given up after 1 year i would probably be one of those people saying propecia didnt work for me..

 

[heynow1234]

david thats great and just what i needed to hear. I went to my derm today and he was convinced the propecia was working to maintian or slow it down, he said hes never had anyone who it didnt work for. Unfortuantly i didnt take any pics when i started so i guess my mind could be playing games with me.

Thanks for the good luck wishes Norm, im still hanging in there.

 

[yankee]

Hello heynow. I'm new here and find you and I are in the same boat with very similar feelings regarding hairloss. I too have no interest in going the minoxidil route. I also have no interest in spironolactone or any topical. My hair just looks like crap when I put anything in it. I have a friend with similar hair who went the minoxidil route. Shed like mad and never rebounded. I will admit that I've been close to giving it a serious attempt but just don't want to be handcuffed to a high maintenance routine that may or may not work.

I'm 11 months on proscar 1/4 tablet daily and have the same gradual regression as you. I will watch your progress with great interest.

Here's hoping we are 2nd year responders.

Best of luck