Possible rosacea cure. And DMSO info:

[CCS]

A smart experimenter:
http://www.neopax.com/Artemis/rosacea/index.html

DMSO, pure enough, is very safe. You can drink liters of it. Don't quote me on that though. But you have to dilute it to at most 80% or it will give you blisters. A strong anti-oxidant and anti-inflammatory, it also penetrates the skin very well and takes other stuff with it. Unfortunately, it is too good of a penatration enhancer. It takes stuff right into the blood stream, not just local. I'll use a lower concentration though.

OK, I read that retinoids and even azelaic acid can worsen rosacea.

My face is just red, sometimes. Not bumpy like the people in the pics. But probably still a blood vessel condition.

He got topical asprin and other stuff to get rid of his rosacea, but must treat it daily. He now uses a synthetic chemical from speariment as the anti-inflammatory, but cautions people not to use natural spearemint since it has poisonous chemicals in it.

My plan is DMSO, EGCG, distilled water, and something else. Not sure what. I need something a bit acidic.

I still need salicylic acid or azelaic acid for the crud in my nose pores.

 

[CCS]

The Final Results

It has been nearly a year since my rosacea finally disappeared. I gradually stopped using the various mixes and waited for it to return, which to date it has not done. The final formulations were the green tea with aspirin, alternating with a mixture of DMSO, Copper Salicylate, Methyl Salicylate and Caffeine. The picture here was taken a couple of months after treatment stopped, and the skin looks even better now. It's hi-res so you can see the details.

I wonder if I can get the Butcher's Broom .

 

[CCS]

I think I'll do distilled water, DMSO, EGCG, green tea extract, resveratrol, a small amount of borageseed oil, and a small amount of salicylic acid to acidify and preserve the mix. I got all but the last two.

I want to use a similar topical for my scalp with spironolactone, azelaic acid, soy proteins, but less DMSO and more ethanol.

Lavender will just stay in the shampoo.

 

[barcafan]

Just do greentea/aspirin.

I too have recently discovered some flushing/red skin which at times feels extremely tight.

 

[Thickandthin]

I've got Rosacea......I've been prone to blushing my entire life and just in the past year or so my face has become red constantly.

That guy seemed to have a pretty mild case of it. Mine is worse but just on my cheeks. It sucks and is far worse than balding.

Anyway, I'm scheduled to have an IPL (Intense Pulsed Light) treatment with a laser specialist on Friday. Already had a test spot done to make sure I don't have any bad reactions to it.

CCS, if you really think you have rosacea I would look into this (IPL). If your condition is vascular in nature, it's probably the only thing that will help you. Rosacea is a progressive condition that gets worse over time because the vascular infrastructure in your face keeps getting bigger and bigger until your cheeks/affected areas have way too much blood flowing to them at any given time. IPL is one of the only treatments to reduce this infrastructure.

An easy way to test is to press down firmly on the red spots with your finger. If they go pale for a second and then the blood rushes back to them - bingo.

Anyway, good luck with this CCS. If you do go the topical route, please take some pictures and let me know about your progress with it.

 

[CCS]

My "rosacea" does not look like other people's rosacea. I look at pics, and everyone just has it in ther cheaks, chine, nose, forehead, in spots, often with bumps. I have a very uniform redness evenly across all my face and neck. No bumps. Just looks like one uniform sun burn from my collar up.

I don't know if it is rosacea or something else. IPL sounds nice, and I will consider it, but I think I want to go the DMSO/green tea/asprin route. Only instead of asprin, I want to do salicylic acid, which is almost the same thing but is an acid. Green tea is more stable in acidic conditions below pH 4.

I'm pretty sure I'll do DMSO, distilled water, borageseed oil, EGCG, salicylic acid, and maybe vitamin D in my topical. If it does not go away in 6 months or so, I'll get an IPL test spot to see if IPL works on me. If multiple treatments are needed, I'll get the same test spot multiple times until I see a change, and only pay them a nominal fee until they prove to me it will fix it.

I figure 65% DMSO, 20% distilled water, 10% borageseed oil, 4% EGCG, 0.5% salicylic acid, 0.3% caffeine, 0.2% vitamin D powder. Maybe I'll put 5% zinc oxide in there too to make it my sun screen.

 

[barcafan]

too much sh*t in it. Less is more.

 

[CCS]

too much sh*t in it. Less is more.

starting to agree. I tested some DMSO on my fingers. In 60 seconds in wringled them up as much as my toes would get in a bath tub for 2 hours. And they stayed that way for 24 hours even after I washed my hands and put coconut oil on them. 3 days later they are 75% back to normal, but still dry and slippery.

Do not mess with strong DMSO. Maybe 70% is safer, but that guy said dried his face a bit even at 70%. I'd do 5% to 25%.

The reason I want salycilic acid instead of asprin is the acid clears up pores, and I have an acne issue a bit. The acid also will stabilize the green tea so I don't have to re-make it daily. EGCG breaks down in water at neutral pH. Asprin also has filler powder I don't want. And I know what percentage to use the salicylic acid at: 0.5% to 2%. Asprin is more experimental.

 

[Thickandthin]

CCS, I'm going to get IPL done in about 4 hours. Pretty nervous.....the test spots I had before reacted well but it HURTS. Feels like a bee sting every time it hits you.

I'll let you know if it works for me. Also, do you experience flushing/blushing or just generalized persistent redness? If you don't flush then you probably don't have rosacea.

 

[decro435]

I too flush when I hit certain triggers such as heat/alcohol/emotions. I believe it's just my blood vessels being close to the surface. I don't really think there is anything that can be done for me. They are a light red constantly before being triggered as well. Keep us updated!

 

[CCS]

No flushing for me. Even when I workout. Just 12 hours red, then randomly back to nice skin for 4 hours, then intermediate for a while. I have thought long and hard and don't know what causes it.

IPL is not an option for me. Even my entire eyelids and eye sockets are the same color as the rest of my face. I don't want to have normal skin everywhere but red eye lids. A topical is my best bet.

When my skin is normal colored, I'm super confident that my face is a 9, if framed right anyway. But as soon as it turns red I don't want to hit on any women. I guess if I take a hot enough shower it can get redder, but the gym and the hot sun do not make me red. It just seems random.

 

[CCS]

The only thing that makes sense is that I'm allergic to something, but that would be blotchy. This is too uniform, and only affects my face and neck.

 

[Thickandthin]

That's weird.

So when your face is red, it's not hot to the touch or anything like that?

 

[CCS]

That's weird.

So when your face is red, it's not hot to the touch or anything like that?

No. I don't think. I'd have to feel it again next time it gets red. I did not notice that before though. Yeah, makes sense if the blood was on the surface it would be hotter. I never did feel for heat. I just noticed that when I'm working out or out in the sun, that often does not cause me to turn red. Though sometimes I am red at the gym, but also red before the gym.

 

[CCS]

I'm just convinced green tea and salicylic acid will do the trick. The more I messs around with DMSO, the more I don't think I want to mess with it. I'm convinced it will increase penetration, but I just want the salicylic acid going down pores, not straight through the skin layers.

 

[decro435]

Quote LiveScience:

"Our skin contains many tiny blood vessels that carry blood laden with oxygen to the skin cells, allowing them to 'breathe,' and allowing us to lose heat during exercise," said lead researcher Ian Stephen. "People who are physically fit or have higher levels of sex hormones have more of these blood vessels and flush easier than people who are unhealthy, unfit, elderly or smokers. Physically fit people also have more oxygen in their blood than people who are unfit or have heart or lung illnesses."

 

[CCS]

Quote LiveScience:

"Our skin contains many tiny blood vessels that carry blood laden with oxygen to the skin cells, allowing them to 'breathe,' and allowing us to lose heat during exercise," said lead researcher Ian Stephen. "People who are physically fit or have higher levels of sex hormones have more of these blood vessels and flush easier than people who are unhealthy, unfit, elderly or smokers. Physically fit people also have more oxygen in their blood than people who are unfit or have heart or lung illnesses."

Nice to know. I still don't think a little green tea would help. Reseveratrol might help too.

 

[ClayShaw]

The guy in the picture is not bad rosacea. Not at all. I have it and I get cysts on my face that are sometimes as big nickles, and stick out about an inch. They are filled with blood and puss and hang around for a few months or so. I've got one on my neck now that is about as wide as a dime and sticks out about a half inch. I haven't been diagnosed with rosacea, but my mom has, and she has the same stuff. She takes an antibiotic for about a week every 3 months or so and it clears it right up. I don't have insurance that will pay for that kind of thing, so I walk around with huge bumps on my face/neck. So yeah, for me, when I discovered I was balding on top of that, it was sort of the final nail in the coffin. The hard part was the realization that unless I pay for it, I aint gettin laid.

 

[CCS]

Just work more hours and pay for the treatments. Just make sure the anti-biotics are topical, not oral.

What would you rather do? Pay a woman for sex? OR pay a wig company for a wig and then get the sex for free? The woman does not love you anymore in any case, so don't marry her. But at least with the wig you don't get the vanity crush from having to pay right before sex, or the risk that she takes your money and runs.

BTW, I don't believe you that your pumps are that big. I think they are at most 1/4 that size.

 

[ClayShaw]

Just work more hours and pay for the treatments. Just make sure the anti-biotics are topical, not oral.

What would you rather do? Pay a woman for sex? OR pay a wig company for a wig and then get the sex for free? The woman does not love you anymore in any case, so don't marry her. But at least with the wig you don't get the vanity crush from having to pay right before sex, or the risk that she takes your money and runs.

BTW, I don't believe you that your pumps are that big. I think they are at most 1/4 that size.

Most aren't that big, you're right. Sticking out an inch may be a slight exaggeration. The worst ones do stick out at least 3/4 inch, but it's like a hill. Only the tip sticks out that far.
No wigs for me man, just can't do it. Waaaay to much maintenance.