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[asterixxx]

hi i m 28 years old man. first of all i want to say that there is no hair loss history about my family both mother and father side my father is 75 and has a lot of hair. anyway.i had an depression before 4 years ago. my started to shed at the crown area but after i had some drugs and i became all right there seems there is not a problem. i thought that i would gain that hairs again. anyway i started a non protein diet last year abut 5 months and i didnt know about it i did have so little protein than mc hairs started to get thinnerand shaded away.. when i recognise it because of my diet i loose about 55 lbs and much of myhair already my crown area is so bad now. i went a doctor and correct my diet but i loose a lot of hair.
now i just want to ask that :
1-there is a myth about " when you are a child if someone razored your hair than your hair could be stronger if not it is going to be thinner." i have heard about that million times. and my parrents did not razored it but they razored my brothers hair and i can see his hair is stronger than mine. is that a myth ? if i razored it now will it be good for my hairs like beard getting harder as you razor it, you know.?
2-Did i loose all my hairs forever? is there anyone like that in here.. ? it has been about 6 months but i cant see any regrowth or regain in my hair ..
please tell me is there anyway?
doctors say that "maybe something triggered your dna systems and you started to loose hair" could that be possible?
did i loose all my follicules please help me i m wordless

 

[KANGA]

Hello!

Yes, diets in which eliminates proteins can (as you know) have a huge impact on hair. How long has it been since you've bumped up protein in your diet? If its been less than 6 months, as you said, maybe you'll need to be more patient.

The myth about shaving the same spot to make hairs longer and stronger is, indeed, a myth. The reasoning behind it is that when you shave for the first time when you're growing up, the hairs replacing it become darker because those are hairs that are becoming stronger with puberty. Shaving does not promote hair growth.

Chances are you haven't "lost" your hairs forever; with the right treatment you can experience regrowth. Most people have success with the "Big 3", which are:

Propecia (Finasteride)
Rogaine (Minoxidil)
and Nizoral (Ketoconazole)

Minoxidil and Ketoconazole are available over the counter, and Finasteride is available by prescription.

Your best bet at this point is to visit a dermatologist and get diagnosed, especially since you can experience heavy sides with Finasteride, as well as Minoxidil.

Once you've seen a dermatologist, feel free to browse the boards and look at other people's regimens.

 

[OverMachoGrande]

Excellent advice Kanga! unk:

 

[s.a.f]

No protein diet - impossible, protein can be found in everything.
And even low protein does not cause hairloss.

 

[asterixxx]

it is not a non proten diet but it has so little everythng maybe 800 kcal a day, 5 month. and i just want to ask that if tht follicls all gone or theyare resting only/ if esting when and how they are going to start growing.
i m in a good diet along the 6 months there is not any severe change. i m afraid they all gone. bye the way i m using revita and there ketozan... thing inside it, could it be possible to use? and someone offerd me spectral dnc? what do you know about it. ? and i heard about propecia is not good for sexual health of man..

 

[KANGA]

And even low protein does not cause hairloss.

Low protein wouldn't cause male pattern baldness, but it does cause hair loss.

and i heard about propecia is not good for sexual health of man..

Depends who you ask, but personally I had the loss of libido in my 2 trials of Propecia. Mind you they were in doses of 1.25 and 1 mg (different in each trial), so a half dose might be more suitable for me. I'll pass on that, though.

Regardless, everyone is different, and some swear by finasteride. To what extent is your crown balding, anyways? Have a pic?

 

[yello911]

Hairloss is not really my forte, so I come here to learn from all you gurus! However, nutrition is. Limiting protein and/or an excessive amount of calories is not only bad for your hair, it is dangerous for your health. I guarantee you this: You will never see an anorexic or bulimic with a healthy head of hair unless they are wearing a wig.

I'm not sure why you were on a restrictive calorie/protein diet. If someone recommended you do that to lose weight, they should be shot. Consuming too few of calories will engage your body into starvation mode and your metabolism will actually slow. As for protein, if you don't get enough, your body will begin to consume its own muscle to get it. The less muscle mass you have, the less calories you burn throughout the day so for any sort of diet plan, that would be counter productive. As for your hair, it is mostly made of protein! Being that your vital organs need protein and your hair isn't considered a vital organ, your body would rather you be bald and alive than hairy and dead.

 

[s.a.f]

I guarantee you this: You will never see an anorexic or bulimic with a healthy head of hair unless they are wearing a wig.

I've seen severly undernourished and starving 3rd world people with awesome heads of hair.

 

[yello911]

I guarantee you this: You will never see an anorexic or bulimic with a healthy head of hair unless they are wearing a wig.

I've seen severly undernourished and starving 3rd world people with awesome heads of hair.

You also said that low protein does not cause hairloss when in fact it can :whistle: . Remember, I said "healthy" head of hair, not "full" head of hair.

 

[asterixxx]

i just want to ask one more think. if i want some hair implant with FUE and i want my doctor to take har follicls to another part of my body is that possible that kind of air follicls seems as my own hair or they are different?

 

[ali777]

There is a condition called telogen effluvium. Telogen effluvium is shedding of the hair due to a stress to the body. What you are describing points to a case of telogen effluvium.

Now you are thinking, what's the treatment for telogen effluvium. There isn't one. You simply have to remove the stress to your body and wait. In your case the stress to the body comes from the restricted diet, so you have to get back to a healthy diet.

I'm pretty certain I had a small/mild telogen effluvium, I lost almost 25kg in less than a year and I wasn't paying much attention to my diet at the time. I was slightly chubby to begin with, so I was happy to be losing the weight but I ended up being underweight and very stressed in general. I used to kick *** at basketball and football, I played a few times with some clowns and they kicked my ***... Then I realised I had to put on some weight again because I had no power in my body.

Get on a normal diet and make sure you exercise. Exercising will help you with your hormonal balance, and you'll feel much better.

 

[ali777]

it is not a non proten diet but it has so little everythng maybe 800 kcal a day, 5 month. and i just want to ask that if tht follicls all gone or theyare resting only/ if esting when and how they are going to start growing.
i m in a good diet along the 6 months there is not any severe change. i m afraid they all gone. bye the way i m using revita and there ketozan... thing inside it, could it be possible to use? and someone offerd me spectral dnc? what do you know about it. ? and i heard about propecia is not good for sexual health of man..

If you have an male pattern baldness (male pattern baldness) your follicles are gone for good. You could use minoxidil and finastride to get some of them back.

As the name indicates, male pattern baldness comes in patterns, eg, receding temples, thinning crown, etc. So, if you have those patterns, you are very likely to have a permanent baldness. However, if you lost hair from all over the scalp, that's more likely to be a temporary condition and your hair is likely to come back.

Go and see a dermatologist....

 

[asterixxx]

could it be possbile that there is no male pattern baldness in my father or brotheror uncle. could it be possible i have one? or maybe something triggeed my male pattern baldness wiht dna codes? is there anyone know about that

 

[KANGA]

Possibly, this article points out the fact that we have dormant genes.

http://psychcentral.com/news/2008/07/31 ... /2678.html

Whether or not depression can trigger male pattern baldness is beyond me.

 

[ali777]

could it be possbile that there is no male pattern baldness in my father or brotheror uncle. could it be possible i have one? or maybe something triggeed my male pattern baldness wiht dna codes? is there anyone know about that

As far as I know, the answer is yes. I have read that male pattern baldness may skip generations and then hit someone totally random like yourself.

We all have similar hormonal structures, but some of us are more susceptible to DHT than others... Maybe you just happen to be susceptible to DHT, the cause of male pattern baldness.

There are a few threads debating the effect of lifestyle on male pattern baldness. Before anyone disagrees with me, I'll say that I don't think lifestyle on its own is a cause for male pattern baldness, but combined with other factors, eg scalp susceptible to DHT, I think someone who is preprogrammed to lose hair at 50, may accelerate that process enormously and lose hair in, let's say, his 20s.

Many studies show that diet high in animal fat, smoking, etc cause hairloss. I interpret "cause hairloss" as "accelerate male pattern baldness". Stress and depression are probably two lifestyle factors that make us lose hair much earlier than we should do.

PS:

http://psychcentral.com/news/2008/07/31/can-depression-change-your-dna/2678.html

That's a scary article... As someone who suffered in the past, I don't know what sort of long term damage I've done to my body...

 

[asterixxx]

i want to thank to all for your interesets.
to hole history from beginning to end

actually i m not sure about eveything. is there any possibliyt my father is 70 and there is no problem with his hairs and my brother is 40 and there is not any white hair already. i cant remember any bald person in my family both my aunts or uncles.. is there any possiblity that i have male pattern baldness.. i have no problem with my hairs till i had a severe depression. in 2005. at that times my hair started to shed at the scalp area with a circle like shape inside to outside.. and than last year i loose 25 kg about 55 lbs with a so unhealty low protein diet that sucks.. it f...ked my hairs.. and now i started to use spectral dnc and revita and biotin and we all see ..
thank you guys for your interests again.

 

[asterixxx]

hello again guys. in some reasons i made a blood test before 2 months ago and my vitamin b level was low. i started to use vitamin b pills 2 months along . and my hairs started to shed much more than usual. i heard about the vitamin b is efective about hair loss, i think maybe shedding of hairs means they are growing stronger again.. is there anyone that has an opinion about that.

 

[hairrific]

hello again guys. in some reasons i made a blood test before 2 months ago and my vitamin b level was low. i started to use vitamin b pills 2 months along . and my hairs started to shed much more than usual. i heard about the vitamin b is efective about hair loss, i think maybe shedding of hairs means they are growing stronger again.. is there anyone that has an opinion about that.

B vitamins?? I think there might bigger issues here.

My advice:

Get on propecia and nizoral shampoo immediately if your hair loss is being caused by male pattern baldness.You don't need all that dht anyway besides you will have allot still floating around if your body should need it for something, LOL. Get on Monoxidil too if you like later on if you think you need it but give propecia a full year try out at the very least.

Take a good vitamin mineral supplement capsule then you don't have to worry if you get enough B vitamins. Your body easily and quickly eliminates B vitamins through your urine so it is hard to overdose if you were worried about that. It is really hard to be low on B vitamins as they are in many foods humans eat.

Eat a balanced variety of healthy foods. Massive amounts of salads and green raw plants are the best, juice raw carrots, followed by raw fruits and raw nuts (not roasted), fish, chicken, turkey, drink massive amounts of water. When you wake up in the morning drink a full glass first thing! Eat or drink nothing pass 9pm at night.

Easy on the carbohydrates (pastas, breads) and stay off all sugars, honey, corn syrups, and why the hell you went on a low protein diet I will never know.

I could go on and on and on.....

Wait a minute! Your vegetarian are you? Then I hope you know about getting a complete amino acid chain which is what it takes to make protein.

 

[asterixxx]

no no no i m not a veg. but i m an idiot i had a so bad diet that i didnt eat anything like 600-700 kal a day. that causes my hairs to shed about 6 months.. there was no problem untill that time. i think my vitamin b level is low because of that.

 

[asterixxx]

is there any way that find out if hair follics. are dead or alive.? i mean my hairs started to shed maybe in 2006 and could there be a possibility thatmy hair follicls. are alive or dead?