Pictures of regrowth on various people for the newbies

[michael barry]

For the guys who haven't read the forum much, and are wondering if people really have success with treatments, here are some pictures:

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject:

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one more time (warning slippy pigg...........I'll cut and paste this and follow you around the forum with it for as long as it takes. Im not going to let you dissuade young men from keeping their hair and not losing more of it).


this guy regrew hair, http://www.hairlosstalk.com/photogallery/pgmartin3.htm


this guy regrew hair, http://www.hairlosstalk.com/photogallery/pgbryan.htm


this guy regrew hair,
http://www.hairlosstalk.com/photogallery/pgjonr.htm


this guy regrew hair,
http://www.applepoly.com/procyanidin-b-2/enlarge_2.htm


this guy regrew hair,
http://www.drproctor.com/Proxtx.html


this gal regrew alot of hair,
http://www.drproctor.com/areata2.htm



regrowing hair is hard though. The older one gets, the harder it is to regrow it. However, one can pretty much hang onto what they have with just topical spironolactone (no sides at all) and nizoral shampo about every third day or so (no sides either).

I'd say that is worth it myself.



There are some other pictures of regrowth out there. The revivogen.com page has about 5, and there are 3 pretty well known ones with fluridil. Im pretty sure there would be some regrowth pics on rogaine's site also. There HAVE been some success stories in baldness

 

[Brokenwall]

If it can be maintained with only nizoral and spironolactone then why oh why did i start minoxidil and finasteride :cry:

 

[RadioRaheem]

If it can be maintained with only nizoral and spironolactone then why oh why did i start minoxidil and finasteride :cry:

Well, depending on your type of hair loss, Topical spironolactone wouldn't be something you would want to use anyhow. Mainly because Topical spironolactone would be inconvenient to apply for a diffuse thinner for instance. It's more suited for those who are only experiencing hair loss in a small specific area. minoxidil and finasteride is a good combo, so don't worry. :wink:

 

[michael barry]

my purpose in starting the thread were not related to finas vs. spironolactone (which should be extremely complimenterary of one another if used in tandem), it was to show that treatments really can work to even regrow some lost hair. So just think of how wonderfully well they can help you hang onto the hair you have for the next couple of decades (when baldness will probably be cured anyway).


Here are more pictures of regrowth, http://www.revivogen.com/pictures/


http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/mess ... adid=68440 scroll down the thread for ketoconazole cream regrowth



http://www.hairlosshelp.com/html/tricomin.cfm
tricomin


3 pics with fluridil
http://www.menspharma.com/results.htm



If you can catch your hairloss when it just begins, you might be able to hang onto a pretty full head of hair even if there were never any more advances in hairloss period. But there WILL be, you can bet on that.
Dont let guys who have given up and have already went really bald dissuade you from attempting to keep your hair if thats what you want.

 

[blondeguy]

this guy regrew hair, http://www.hairlosstalk.com/photogallery/pgmartin3.htm

The before shots have indoor lighting from the top while the second are outside with light from the right, his hair looks dyed, and his skin is tanned. From the pictures that are most similar, it looks like minor thickening.

this guy regrew hair, http://www.hairlosstalk.com/photogallery/pgbryan.htm

I can't even tell. The bald spot is still there.

this guy regrew hair,
http://www.hairlosstalk.com/photogallery/pgjonr.htm

You can't really see well from those pictures, but it doesn't matter since he admits he dyes his hair because what's come back is thin and lacks pigment.

this guy regrew hair,
http://www.applepoly.com/procyanidin-b-2/enlarge_2.htm

Doesn't look like very much. Bald spot is still there.

this guy regrew hair,
http://www.drproctor.com/Proxtx.html

Now we're getting into before/after pictures from a site selling its own topical treatments. I wouldn't put as much stock into them. If they're real, they're more impressive than anything seen on these forums.

this gal regrew alot of hair,
http://www.drproctor.com/areata2.htm

But that's irrelevant to male pattern baldness.

I think what you can expect from treatments is exactly what you see everyday on these forums when people post their pictures--minor regrowth and maintenance for a few more years. There's no magic cure.

 

[mumuka]

I think what you can expect from treatments is exactly what you see everyday on these forums when people post their pictures--minor regrowth and maintenance for a few more years. There's no magic cure.

Thats right . BTW thanks for posting your picture in your AV. ** reason number 139 why i should fight harder against male pattern baldness**.

 

[michael barry]

I disagree profusely with blondguy's interpretations of those photos. When people look at those pictures they see real REgrowth, not mere maintenance.


I have a feeling blondeguy is one of those folks who waited TOO LATE to attempt to treat his baldness, and has found he cannot recover what has been lost. So, like many of the guys at hairsite, he poo-poos all topicals and internals, thus waiting for cloining and declaring every thing else as bulllshiiiit.

Well, they are not all bulllshiiit. You can hang onto what you have for a long time. Since I got serious and added to just propecia, Ive held the line for six years now in my late thirites. If I'd have added things (nizoral, prox-n mostly, but have piddled with other stuff), I'd have probably kept my original hairline.


THe pics tell the story, and others WILL BE LOOKING AT THEM despite your snarky very dishonest remarks. Dont worry though, cloning will give you hair back someday. Even you will have hair. But I want to keep mine in the meantime.

 

[Whyatt]

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..if you are gonna review photos, please do it in a bit more serious manner. Michael is a trusted poster and somewhat of a local hero here on hairlosstalk, a bit more helpful attitude would not do any harm, blondeguy, still...you have the right to express your opinion...FREEDOM!

Anyone else have photos from other products such as Remox, Spectral, spironolactone....?

 

[docj077]

I disagree profusely with blondguy's interpretations of those photos. When people look at those pictures they see real REgrowth, not mere maintenance.

I agree with Michael's observation. Those pictures demonstrate increased density and better distribution whether they show evidence of dying or not.

Michael, I fear that this will be a hopeless cause as the asshats that have invaded the forum seem to lack the ability to identify integumental landmarks and use them to measure the regrowth found in those pictures.

 

[abcdefg]

I have never been impressed by hair regrowth pictures or commercials. Most of the hair regrown just makes you look a balding guy with a little more hair, but its not nearly enough to drastically change your appearance. I mean going from a Norwood 5 to a Norwood 1 or a teenage hairline would be a major change and people would be amazed by such regrowth. The pictures are of a man with male pattern baldness that still obviously has male pattern baldness in the after picture.
I think my hair is very sensitive to androgens for some reason, but I have a small amount of androgens so my hairloss is going very slowly and was very dense to start think brad pitt. I am just scared to take anything for life that has potential to do harm. Also money is always a factor.
I am thinking about propecia because i want to maintain, but with how slow its going by the time my hairloss is that bad it will 5 years from now and there will be more treatments that are maybe safer.

 

[Jacobo]

regrowing hair is hard though. The older one gets, the harder it is to regrow it.

Michael, I was lurking around success stories here at HairLossTalk.com, and I found amazing regrowth from not-so-young lads. Specially impressive some people in their 30s that they have never used anything before, some of them losing hair for 10 years-more.

It is the right moment to open this thread. Also I think all newbies should start reading success stories. And that is easy and cheap to have success. Near everybody alternating nano "lite" and nizoral as shampoo, with 1/4 fincar a 1 minoxidil at night will improve. We are talking about 1$ and 2 extra minutes per day max.

If someone wants to shave his head, good for him. He will look better if he is NW4, but that is about it. People look much better with a full head of hair. And young people can achieve that, easy and cheap. The rest is mental masturbation...

I was thinking about slimpig or whatever is the name of this moron. Here you have a bloke going to internet trying to take the piss to a forum wher e people help each other. Isn't it pathetic? How cr*p has to be your life, or your family, or friends...or everything.

 

[blondeguy]

I disagree profusely with blondguy's interpretations of those photos. When people look at those pictures they see real REgrowth, not mere maintenance.

Not if the person is dying their hair, or the pictures are too small to see the difference, or the lighting is totally different. Those guys still had their bald spots. There was some thicker hair around them, sure. What's the point? When I hear "regrowth," I picture actually growing a bunch of hair and reversing the loss, not some thickening around the bald spot and hair dye to cover up the rest.

I have a feeling blondeguy is one of those folks who waited TOO LATE to attempt to treat his baldness, and has found he cannot recover what has been lost. So, like many of the guys at hairsite, he poo-poos all topicals and internals, thus waiting for cloining and declaring every thing else as bulllshiiiit.

People like to dismiss the messenger when they can't debate the points. I've got the same hairline I've had since puberty, which is irrelevant to what you posted. If I lose the rest of my hair naturally, I'll accept it as part of being a guy and move on. I won't waste my life fussing over it. I certainly won't start inhibiting natural sex hormones in my body and attaching myself to a can of foam for the rest of my life.

I'm happy the way I am, and you should be happy with the way you are. Glancing through all the pictures people post of themselves, I have yet to see an ugly guy here. You guys think your hair loss is so important and is making you so unattractive, and I just don't see it. I feel sympathy over the fact that so many have been made to feel insecure and have let a cosmetic issue dominate their psyche. It's obvious many of you have never had the support of somebody telling you how little hair loss matters, or you haven't caught up to 2007 where being bald is a fashion statement, and people just buzz, shave, or leave it as is.

THe pics tell the story, and others WILL BE LOOKING AT THEM despite your snarky very dishonest remarks. Dont worry though, cloning will give you hair back someday. Even you will have hair. But I want to keep mine in the meantime.

There's always some magic cure around the corner that you guys are vesting your hopes in. Cloning won't be available for several years, and even then it will take 10-20 years to perfect for consumer use, and then it'll still be thousands of dollars...you get the picture.

My remarks weren't snarky or dishonest. I pointed out what you conveniently left out--that one guy admitted to dying his hair, that a couple of the guys still had big bald spots, that one of them was a woman and is irrelevant to male pattern baldness, and a couple were the classic, unverified before/after shots from some site selling its own treatments. You may be a "local hero" according to other posters, but I don't see what that has to do with my response to these pictures.

Perhaps someone with an emotional investment in treatments will perceive huge gains in these pictures to give themselves hope, whereas a more objective eye will call a spade a spade. I'm willing to risk unpopularity if it means being honest. If you think I'm wrong, then disregard me and pop your pills.

 

[michael barry]

Blondeguy,

To be honest, I see your picture and youre pretty much bald. You will get your hair "back" with cloning in a few years time along with everyone else I imagine.

The point with "regrwoth" is to show that its possible. The fact that some regrowth it possible is to show that holding onto what you have is easily possible for long periods of time.

I have more hair than anyone in those photos, but realize I have male pattern baldness. Ive held onto my hair, and its gotten darker, even at my age. THAT IS THE POINT OF HAIRLOSSTALK. Waiting until its gone, and trying to get it back is really tough.


There are several potential regimines that will allow most men to keep the hair they have out there. The big-3 will keep a guy in hair for a long while. Revivogen and Tricomin would probably do the same. spironolactone and Prox-N, Finasteride and spironolactone..................spironolactone and minoxidil.............the list goes on. A little regrowth, but primarily stopping the loss.


Dont worry though blondeguy. You too will have hair again if youre willing to pay for it. Science will solve baldness in the future. They have pretty much solved acne for people who dont want to have that. We can pretty much control rosacea. Dermatological disorders are only skin deep. We can defeat them, and we will.

 

[blondeguy]

Blondeguy,

To be honest, I see your picture and youre pretty much bald. You will get your hair "back" with cloning in a few years time along with everyone else I imagine.

Pretty much bald? I'm totally bald! If I miss any spots in the morning, it's because I forgot to refresh the cartridge in the HeadBlade.

The point with "regrwoth" is to show that its possible. The fact that some regrowth it possible is to show that holding onto what you have is easily possible for long periods of time.

I understand that, but the regrowth is so little that it's not enough to reverse the loss. So I question the point of it all, especially since drug effectiveness doesn't last indefinitely. I mean, there are some folks on here claiming you need these drugs just to achieve a "physiological norm" in your body. It's totally crazy.

Dont worry though blondeguy. You too will have hair again if youre willing to pay for it. Science will solve baldness in the future. They have pretty much solved acne for people who dont want to have that. We can pretty much control rosacea. Dermatological disorders are only skin deep. We can defeat them, and we will.

I don't think it's healthy putting emotional investment into some future magic cure. Reality is much less easy and convenient. Expect a couple of decades to pass before hair cloning will be a viable consumer procedure. As for solving baldness, you'd have to "solve" DNA. You can pay thousands of dollars for drugs and surgeons to fix you, or you can decide that you're not broken in the first place. I know now that doing that is unpopular around here, but I guess my compassion for people suffering mental anguish outweighs my ability to recognize a near-hopeless cause.

 

[Balding_1]

I understand that, but the regrowth is so little that it's not enough to reverse the loss. So I question the point of it all, especially since drug effectiveness doesn't last indefinitely. I mean, there are some folks on here claiming you need these drugs just to achieve a "physiological norm" in your body. It's totally crazy.

Yes, in some of the pictures the regrowth is minor but you can still see regrowth! The point that you seem to not understand is that regrowth is possible. This gives people hope if they need only a little regrowth and provides evidence that hair loss can be stopped in the first place.

I don't think it's healthy putting emotional investment into some future magic cure. Reality is much less easy and convenient. Expect a couple of decades to pass before hair cloning will be a viable consumer procedure. As for solving baldness, you'd have to "solve" DNA. You can pay thousands of dollars for drugs and surgeons to fix you, or you can decide that you're not broken in the first place. I know now that doing that is unpopular around here, but I guess my compassion for people suffering mental anguish outweighs my ability to recognize a near-hopeless cause

Science is "solving" DNA, have you never heard of the human genome project? Anyways, why can't you get it through your thick skull that it is not a hopeless cause for people who still have most or all of their hair?

Blondeguy if I followed your advice I would probably be a norwood 4 by now. But thank god I have listened to people like Michael and I have been maintaining a Norwood 2 for 3 years now. Baldness is a choice and it appears you have made your decision, good luck with that.

 

[blondeguy]

Minor regrowth is possible, but not much. Who knows where your hair would be by now, if you're even balding. Some guys mistakenly believe having temple recession in your 20s means you're going to lose it all.

 

[Pondle]

Personally I enjoy having hair, and styling it, and I know I'd look ridiculous without it! If inhibiting a 'normal' sex hormone is what it takes to keep my hair, then so be it. I've been doing it for 18 months and had no side effects AT ALL :thumbs_up: I still have a masculine physique and my sex drive is exactly the same; my hairloss has totally stopped and I seem to have a little more density at the crown. It's all good, brother.

We don't know how long our current treatments remain effective for. We only have data out to five years on Propecia; I've heard anecdotes of finasteride remaining effective for well beyond a decade for the select few men who've been taking it for that long. Remember, the hair count figures in the five year trial were distorted beyond yr 2 because the responders plateaued, so the (much smaller percentage) of non-responders dragged the overall figures down. I'm very optimistic about the long term performance of Propecia.

 

[Guest]

Minor regrowth is possible, but not much. Who knows where your hair would be by now, if you're even balding. Some guys mistakenly believe having temple recession in your 20s means you're going to lose it all.

i don't buy it.

post a close up pic of your head and then i might, but in other pics you've posted i have seen a shadow of hair on the sides of your head and nothing really in the front. you can't explain that away by saying you shave super close with the headblad or whatever. it wouldn't leave no hair in the front and some on the sides.

prove me wrong by posting a closeup shot of your head, freshly shaved even. if i'm wrong i'll eat my words and proclaim you someone with minimal hair loss. i just know that you did have a pic awhile ago of you with sunglasses on and i saw hair on the sides and nothing really in the front.

otherwise, michael barry has called you out and i know that you're capable of posting pics judging by your avatar, so please do so. prove him and me wrong.

jayman

 

[Pondle]

I disagree profusely with blondguy's interpretations of those photos. When people look at those pictures they see real REgrowth, not mere maintenance.

Not if the person is dying their hair, or the pictures are too small to see the difference, or the lighting is totally different. Those guys still had their bald spots. There was some thicker hair around them, sure. What's the point? When I hear "regrowth," I picture actually growing a bunch of hair and reversing the loss, not some thickening around the bald spot and hair dye to cover up the rest.

Then when don't you check out the pics on Propecia.com? They were taken under more controlled conditions (http://www.propecia.com/finasteride/pro ... ssment.jsp)

And what's more hair counts were effectively measured within a defined area of the scalp. We know that regrowth is possible. We have the scientific proof!

I've got the same hairline I've had since puberty, which is irrelevant to what you posted.

Then why do you shave your head and visit hairlosstalk.com? You look bald to me judging by the photos you've posted. Sorry mate. I mean, I may be wrong, but...

If I lose the rest of my hair naturally, I'll accept it as part of being a guy and move on. I won't waste my life fussing over it. I certainly won't start inhibiting natural sex hormones in my body and attaching myself to a can of foam for the rest of my life.

Fair enough, but we don't all feel this way. I choose hair and my choice has no practical or moral consequences for anyone else. I spend a little money in return for an aesthetic and psychological benefit; I get what I want and the money I spend helps support jobs in the economy. Everyone wins.

You guys think your hair loss is so important and is making you so unattractive, and I just don't see it. I feel sympathy over the fact that so many have been made to feel insecure and have let a cosmetic issue dominate their psyche. It's obvious many of you have never had the support of somebody telling you how little hair loss matters, or you haven't caught up to 2007 where being bald is a fashion statement, and people just buzz, shave, or leave it as is.

Some guys look good bald, others look like crap. It's certainly not for everyone!

There's always some magic cure around the corner that you guys are vesting your hopes in. Cloning won't be available for several years, and even then it will take 10-20 years to perfect for consumer use, and then it'll still be thousands of dollars...you get the picture.

Progress is being made all the time, I mean is the glass half empty of half full? 10 yrs ago we didn't even have Propecia. Now we have Dutasteride as well and much better minoxidil formulations, with the promise of topical receptor blockers around the corner.

 

[DammitLetMeIn]

Post the pics Jayman was asking for Blondeguy please. Thanks.