Personal recommendation - DON'T TAKE PROPECIA/FINASTRIDE

nijackson82

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Please, I do not know if this is the appropriate place, but this is a very personal and honest warning to those who are or want to take Finastride/Propecia to treat their hair loss.

I'm 29 years old and for last 2 years I've been losing alot of hair to the point where I was at #3 of Norwood's scale. I went to a known New Zealand clinic that had a hair loss doctor and began my daily treatment by intaking Finastride, saw palmetto caps and applying minoxidil 5% on my scalp.

The results were great, within 4 weeks rate of hair loss was really low (ie- my bathroom floor went from having like 4 dozens of hair in a week to 1 dozen) and my hair looked thick with an appeareance of being more abundant too. By the 4th week I started noticing some decrease in libido. By the 5th week i noticed a considerable drop but was still able to masturbate twice in that week without issues (notice I would have normally been urged to do it every day), so I thought it was ok. By this time I was barely losing hair and my hair looked great. By the 6th and 7th week I was barely able to masturbate once each week with a hard time to get it erect and if it wasn't because I forced it myself, I would never have had the need to do so. Now I have stopped taking Finastride and Saw Palmetto caps considering that dozens of sites list those two items as potentially causing the decreased libido/ED side effects.

I was concerned, so I looked online (had done so before but thought libido side effects were very unlikely and temporary and thought I would be ok) and found that there have been a number of serios issues with a great number of men suffering from permanent decreased libido/ED and victims campaigning to sue the Merck. Check http://www.propeciasideeffects.com/inde ... age688.htm for an example. By now I'm alarmed and I hope that 7 weeks of intaking Propecia/Finastride wasn't enough to end up with any permanent side effects.

For now, I'll continue to use Minoxidil and Nizoral if only to slow down hair loss, but I'm done with Propecia/Finastride and Saw Palmetto Caps. I'd rather pay thousands for hair transplant than this.
 

misterpharmacist

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Taking finasteride and subsequently crashing has destroyed my life, so I echo this.

At least this forum details side effects and real life stories of post finasteride syndrome, there wasn't anything like that around when decided to take it years ago.

Please think carefully before you touch the stuff, and make sure you take 50mg zinc or similar to counteract sides from increased estrogens.
 

misterpharmacist

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^^
Absolutely, there's tons of vested interests promoting finasteride here and on hair loss help.

btw, if someone says anything remotely cautious about Propecia do you have to move it from its rightful place in the 'anti-androgens' section to here?
 

Cassin

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misterpharmacist said:
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Absolutely, there's tons of vested interests promoting finasteride here and on hair loss help.

btw, if someone says anything remotely cautious about Propecia do you have to move it from its rightful place in the 'anti-androgens' section to here?

Who promotes it? Who has a vested interest?
 

Joe-1991

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That's the old website. Check out propeciahelp.com

The drug has also ruined my life
 

Cassin

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cassin said:
misterpharmacist said:
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Absolutely, there's tons of vested interests promoting finasteride here and on hair loss help.

btw, if someone says anything remotely cautious about Propecia do you have to move it from its rightful place in the 'anti-androgens' section to here?

Who promotes it? Who has a vested interest?

Yeah....so no reply eh? I love it when people say we have a vested interest in finasteride with nothing to back it up.
 

misterpharmacist

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The fact that you shove anything remotely negative about the drug into this side forum, hidden way down from the anti-androgen section where studies and media awareness of propecia's safety belongs, is in itself highly dubious.

Then even above this page you have a heavy disclaimer about going by the official clinical studies side effects rate, even though that was carried out by the manufacturer and is acknowledged by anyone without bias to be at best wishful thinking.

The fact that even this forum is filled with the usual suspects telling guys with sides that it's due to factors other than the drug causing them fatigue, ED, libido loss etc despite them being young men.

The fact that you allow online pushers easy publicity on the anti-androgens page to push finasteride to young men without proper warning of the risks involved of both the drug itself, and obtaining it unprescribed.

The fact that the existence of post finasteride syndrome is denied by many on the forum despite all of the evidence now gathered to the contrary.

This is all from someone who hardly ever reads this forum so if I did I could likely go on. Obviously you are not naive enough to be directly sponsored by the drug company or the whole readership would cotton on you were biased to the drug, although I believe you may have had a link before. However, there do seem to be a number of regular posters whose raison d'etre is to defend finasteride at all costs, rubbish any claims of bad sides on or off the drug, bash other hairloss products that don't have these sides etc etc.

All a bit suspicious in my eyes.
 

Rawtashk

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The fact that you ignore statistics and testing that proves the likelyhood of long-term sides are less than 2% makes your points invalid.

For every 1 person you find with long term problems I bet there are nearly 100 that have had great success.
 

Mew

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The fact that you ignore statistics and testing that proves the likelyhood of long-term sides are less than 2% makes your points invalid.

No, you just invalidated your own point.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... x/abstract


"Sexual AEs are reported in clinical trials at rates of 2.1% to 38%.

The most common sexual AE is ED, followed by EjD and decreased libido

... A proposed mechanism for sexual dysfunction involves decreased nitric oxide synthase activity due to decreased dihydrotestosterone."
 

Cassin

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misterpharmacist said:
The fact that you shove anything remotely negative about the drug into this side forum, hidden way down from the anti-androgen section where studies and media awareness of propecia's safety belongs, is in itself highly dubious..

I didn't even read anything past this point....

We created an archive so people could sit in one spot and read endless stories about side effects without having to do any searches. We even had a programmer go in and created a notification so anyone who gets a thread moved gets a private message so they wouldn't be confused.

So your complaint is it's location? You think people don't scroll down....
Its amusing...I remember when the sub-forum was made and some people were pointing fingers saying we were taking an anti finasteride stance to increase spironolactone and revivogen sales.

You just can't win eh?
 

Prop

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may i say some about?
imao a side section is a very good idea

little critics

1 best could be sticky on top of antiandogen section

2 "concerned paranoid ..." is not a fare premise
best could be only "share ur experience"
 

Cassin

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Propecia said:
may i say some about?
imao a side section is a very good idea

2 "concerned paranoid ..." is not a fare premise
best could be only "share ur experience"


Well....here's the thing about that. I dont like that wording either but think about how often posts start out and have those words.

Believe me we're always looking for feedback so thank you.
 
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