omarrodriguez's story - (age 25th,Hair Loss!!!)
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Norsk
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Re: Help! Need Advice - 25th Bday - Hair Loss!!!
Can't blame you for choosing your general health above your hair. Revivogen doesn't seem to give any side effects, at least as long as you are careful to wait at least 3 hours before applying any other topical (like rogaine). Toppik seems to work well for me, the few times I experimented with it. I notice people on here can't seem to agree on which concealer is the best one, though, so you may have to experiment with different concealers if you're unsatisified. Some people use Dermmatch/Couvre and Toppik in combination.
Can't blame you for choosing your general health above your hair. Revivogen doesn't seem to give any side effects, at least as long as you are careful to wait at least 3 hours before applying any other topical (like rogaine). Toppik seems to work well for me, the few times I experimented with it. I notice people on here can't seem to agree on which concealer is the best one, though, so you may have to experiment with different concealers if you're unsatisified. Some people use Dermmatch/Couvre and Toppik in combination.
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Trying to keep health number 1! So are you saying that you are supposed to apply Rogaine at least 3 hours before applying Revivogen?? From everyone else that I have talked to about this matter, they have all proposed to put Rogaine on first (still not sure how long before Revivogen - anyone that could shed some light on this would be great) before putting on Revivogen and keeping that on for the remainder of the night. Then wash it out the next morning and apply first round of Rogaine then. And then continue with the cycle.....
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Trying to keep health number 1! So are you saying that you are supposed to apply Rogaine at least 3 hours before applying Revivogen?? From everyone else that I have talked to about this matter, they have all proposed to put Rogaine on first (still not sure how long before Revivogen - anyone that could shed some light on this would be great) before putting on Revivogen and keeping that on for the remainder of the night. Then wash it out the next morning and apply first round of Rogaine then. And then continue with the cycle.....
omarrodriguez
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The sides from Rogaine are not even to as close as severe as the sides from finasteride.
Below is my response to a question similar to yours about taking finasteride and its effects:
You say that finasteride is the only viable option, but what about revivogen, which has proven through its own studies to reduce scalp DHT @ 90% as opposed to finasteride's 67% DHT reduction. To me this seems like a much more viable option, since sides are not an issue, (or not as bad as an issue as with finasteride users). The reason why I so call "assume" that I might develop sides from using finasteride is the same reason that you "assume" that the alleged Merck's so-called 2% is an accurate depiction of how many individuals do experience these sides. In real life, who knows what the actual numbers are, just from perusing this site and propeciahelp.com, finasteride seems to cause some very major problems. That is also not taking into consideration the number of individuals who have not even come out and disclosed their issues with finasteride products, who knows how many individuals those are. And you say that these sides are temporary, im sure the individuals on propeciahelp.com would beg to differ.
Let's really break down the mechanisms of action of this drug, as it inhibits more than just DHT, shrinks your prostate, messes with neurosteroid production in the brain, can cause gynecomastia and other issues (ie depression) that Merck did not disclose. These are just a few of the sides that can occur in addition to:
* Loss of Libido/Sex Drive
* Erectile Dysfunction
* Loss of Morning / Spontaneous / Nocturnal Erections
* Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, curving, numbness, wrinkled)
* Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
* Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
* Forgetfullness (can't recall names, places etc) / Losing Train of Thought
* Stumbling over Words / Getting Tongue Tied
* Lack of Motivation
* Penis Feels "disconnected" from head or body
* Watery Ejaculate
* Reduced Ejaculate
* Inability to Ejaculate / Orgasm
* Testicular Pain
* Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
* Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
* Persistent or Unexplainable Fatigue
* Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
* Weight Gain
Some of the less common side effects experienced are:
* Blurry vision/acuity decrease
* Lowered body temperature / decreased metabolism
* Decreased Immunity
* Enlarged Prostate (via increased Estrogens after Finasteride use)
* Penile tissue scarring/Peyronie's Disease (this has been confirmed with ultrasounds, by a quite a few Finasteride sufferers, and ultrasounds and Dr. Irwin Goldstein has confirmed that it is possible)
* Lack of blood flow to the penis (confirmed by numerous Urologists)
* Dry/Dark circles under eyes (unknown how Finasteride causes this but reported by many users)
* Pancreatitis (confirmed in a research report from Taiwan)
* Liver damage (elevated AST/ALT levels)
* Muscle Wasting (due to low T levels)
So once again you can tell me this is the most effective drug out there, but at my age, sorry I REFUSE to take that risk! If this is working for you great, I have already read from individuals how taking it after 2,3,4,5,7 up to 10 years have now just started experiencing or are still experiencing sides from this drug. No Thanks...I think im better off with out it, I do not want to be like 22 - 50 year old individuals that i have read about that want to smash their cars into trees to end their lives because their lives have been ruined from finasteride. Hopefully that answers your question.
You are absolutely right, they have nothing to do with getting sides. I was just trying to make a lofty argument that my body is actually very weak in other regards. I know this does not give me any predisposition to sides but weird things all my life have happened to me. For instance I had a tonsilllecttomy a few years back and I have suffered from a complete lack of tasting sweet any more. Somehow my sweet taste buds were damaged through process. (Trust me this really sucks, especially if you are like me who has an insane sweet tooth!!) Some of the prestigous doctors have told me that they have not seen this side effect ever occur in their patenits and other have said it occurs in less than 1% of the population. So I have just have weird luck about these things.Ian Curtis said:
You can see my full response to another individual on why I refuse to take finasteride here:Ian Curtis said:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=45233
The sides from Rogaine are not even to as close as severe as the sides from finasteride.
Below is my response to a question similar to yours about taking finasteride and its effects:
You say that finasteride is the only viable option, but what about revivogen, which has proven through its own studies to reduce scalp DHT @ 90% as opposed to finasteride's 67% DHT reduction. To me this seems like a much more viable option, since sides are not an issue, (or not as bad as an issue as with finasteride users). The reason why I so call "assume" that I might develop sides from using finasteride is the same reason that you "assume" that the alleged Merck's so-called 2% is an accurate depiction of how many individuals do experience these sides. In real life, who knows what the actual numbers are, just from perusing this site and propeciahelp.com, finasteride seems to cause some very major problems. That is also not taking into consideration the number of individuals who have not even come out and disclosed their issues with finasteride products, who knows how many individuals those are. And you say that these sides are temporary, im sure the individuals on propeciahelp.com would beg to differ.
Let's really break down the mechanisms of action of this drug, as it inhibits more than just DHT, shrinks your prostate, messes with neurosteroid production in the brain, can cause gynecomastia and other issues (ie depression) that Merck did not disclose. These are just a few of the sides that can occur in addition to:
* Loss of Libido/Sex Drive
* Erectile Dysfunction
* Loss of Morning / Spontaneous / Nocturnal Erections
* Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, curving, numbness, wrinkled)
* Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
* Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
* Forgetfullness (can't recall names, places etc) / Losing Train of Thought
* Stumbling over Words / Getting Tongue Tied
* Lack of Motivation
* Penis Feels "disconnected" from head or body
* Watery Ejaculate
* Reduced Ejaculate
* Inability to Ejaculate / Orgasm
* Testicular Pain
* Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
* Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
* Persistent or Unexplainable Fatigue
* Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
* Weight Gain
Some of the less common side effects experienced are:
* Blurry vision/acuity decrease
* Lowered body temperature / decreased metabolism
* Decreased Immunity
* Enlarged Prostate (via increased Estrogens after Finasteride use)
* Penile tissue scarring/Peyronie's Disease (this has been confirmed with ultrasounds, by a quite a few Finasteride sufferers, and ultrasounds and Dr. Irwin Goldstein has confirmed that it is possible)
* Lack of blood flow to the penis (confirmed by numerous Urologists)
* Dry/Dark circles under eyes (unknown how Finasteride causes this but reported by many users)
* Pancreatitis (confirmed in a research report from Taiwan)
* Liver damage (elevated AST/ALT levels)
* Muscle Wasting (due to low T levels)
So once again you can tell me this is the most effective drug out there, but at my age, sorry I REFUSE to take that risk! If this is working for you great, I have already read from individuals how taking it after 2,3,4,5,7 up to 10 years have now just started experiencing or are still experiencing sides from this drug. No Thanks...I think im better off with out it, I do not want to be like 22 - 50 year old individuals that i have read about that want to smash their cars into trees to end their lives because their lives have been ruined from finasteride. Hopefully that answers your question.
Ian Curtis
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The sides from Rogaine are not even to as close as severe as the sides from finasteride.
Below is my response to a question similar to yours about taking finasteride and its effects:
You say that finasteride is the only viable option, but what about revivogen, which has proven through its own studies to reduce scalp DHT @ 90% as opposed to finasteride's 67% DHT reduction. To me this seems like a much more viable option, since sides are not an issue, (or not as bad as an issue as with finasteride users). The reason why I so call "assume" that I might develop sides from using finasteride is the same reason that you "assume" that the alleged Merck's so-called 2% is an accurate depiction of how many individuals do experience these sides. In real life, who knows what the actual numbers are, just from perusing this site and propeciahelp.com, finasteride seems to cause some very major problems. That is also not taking into consideration the number of individuals who have not even come out and disclosed their issues with finasteride products, who knows how many individuals those are. And you say that these sides are temporary, im sure the individuals on propeciahelp.com would beg to differ.
Let's really break down the mechanisms of action of this drug, as it inhibits more than just DHT, shrinks your prostate, messes with neurosteroid production in the brain, can cause gynecomastia and other issues (ie depression) that Merck did not disclose. These are just a few of the sides that can occur in addition to:
* Loss of Libido/Sex Drive
* Erectile Dysfunction
* Loss of Morning / Spontaneous / Nocturnal Erections
* Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, curving, numbness, wrinkled)
* Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
* Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
* Forgetfullness (can't recall names, places etc) / Losing Train of Thought
* Stumbling over Words / Getting Tongue Tied
* Lack of Motivation
* Penis Feels "disconnected" from head or body
* Watery Ejaculate
* Reduced Ejaculate
* Inability to Ejaculate / Orgasm
* Testicular Pain
* Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
* Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
* Persistent or Unexplainable Fatigue
* Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
* Weight Gain
Some of the less common side effects experienced are:
* Blurry vision/acuity decrease
* Lowered body temperature / decreased metabolism
* Decreased Immunity
* Enlarged Prostate (via increased Estrogens after Finasteride use)
* Penile tissue scarring/Peyronie's Disease (this has been confirmed with ultrasounds, by a quite a few Finasteride sufferers, and ultrasounds and Dr. Irwin Goldstein has confirmed that it is possible)
* Lack of blood flow to the penis (confirmed by numerous Urologists)
* Dry/Dark circles under eyes (unknown how Finasteride causes this but reported by many users)
* Pancreatitis (confirmed in a research report from Taiwan)
* Liver damage (elevated AST/ALT levels)
* Muscle Wasting (due to low T levels)
So once again you can tell me this is the most effective drug out there, but at my age, sorry I REFUSE to take that risk! If this is working for you great, I have already read from individuals how taking it after 2,3,4,5,7 up to 10 years have now just started experiencing or are still experiencing sides from this drug. No Thanks...I think im better off with out it, I do not want to be like 22 - 50 year old individuals that i have read about that want to smash their cars into trees to end their lives because their lives have been ruined from finasteride. Hopefully that answers your question.[/quote:3msabcpo]
That list is scary,but if I ever experience side effects I really hope it is just lack of libido, which can be easily fixed, and obviously I would lower my dosage of finasteride to 1.25mg.
About the guy smashing his car into a tree, it is because of depression, social anxiety and shyness.I dont think you will ever find here anyone who will try to kill themselves because they allege they have finasteride depression.
Anyway revivogen sounds like a good product but it can only do as much...finasteride would cut much of the dht problem from the inside,being far more effective than a shampoo which stays for no more than 5 minutes in your skin a couple of times per week.
You can see my full response to another individual on why I refuse to take finasteride here:omarrodriguez said:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=45233
The sides from Rogaine are not even to as close as severe as the sides from finasteride.
Below is my response to a question similar to yours about taking finasteride and its effects:
You say that finasteride is the only viable option, but what about revivogen, which has proven through its own studies to reduce scalp DHT @ 90% as opposed to finasteride's 67% DHT reduction. To me this seems like a much more viable option, since sides are not an issue, (or not as bad as an issue as with finasteride users). The reason why I so call "assume" that I might develop sides from using finasteride is the same reason that you "assume" that the alleged Merck's so-called 2% is an accurate depiction of how many individuals do experience these sides. In real life, who knows what the actual numbers are, just from perusing this site and propeciahelp.com, finasteride seems to cause some very major problems. That is also not taking into consideration the number of individuals who have not even come out and disclosed their issues with finasteride products, who knows how many individuals those are. And you say that these sides are temporary, im sure the individuals on propeciahelp.com would beg to differ.
Let's really break down the mechanisms of action of this drug, as it inhibits more than just DHT, shrinks your prostate, messes with neurosteroid production in the brain, can cause gynecomastia and other issues (ie depression) that Merck did not disclose. These are just a few of the sides that can occur in addition to:
* Loss of Libido/Sex Drive
* Erectile Dysfunction
* Loss of Morning / Spontaneous / Nocturnal Erections
* Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, curving, numbness, wrinkled)
* Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
* Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
* Forgetfullness (can't recall names, places etc) / Losing Train of Thought
* Stumbling over Words / Getting Tongue Tied
* Lack of Motivation
* Penis Feels "disconnected" from head or body
* Watery Ejaculate
* Reduced Ejaculate
* Inability to Ejaculate / Orgasm
* Testicular Pain
* Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
* Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
* Persistent or Unexplainable Fatigue
* Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
* Weight Gain
Some of the less common side effects experienced are:
* Blurry vision/acuity decrease
* Lowered body temperature / decreased metabolism
* Decreased Immunity
* Enlarged Prostate (via increased Estrogens after Finasteride use)
* Penile tissue scarring/Peyronie's Disease (this has been confirmed with ultrasounds, by a quite a few Finasteride sufferers, and ultrasounds and Dr. Irwin Goldstein has confirmed that it is possible)
* Lack of blood flow to the penis (confirmed by numerous Urologists)
* Dry/Dark circles under eyes (unknown how Finasteride causes this but reported by many users)
* Pancreatitis (confirmed in a research report from Taiwan)
* Liver damage (elevated AST/ALT levels)
* Muscle Wasting (due to low T levels)
So once again you can tell me this is the most effective drug out there, but at my age, sorry I REFUSE to take that risk! If this is working for you great, I have already read from individuals how taking it after 2,3,4,5,7 up to 10 years have now just started experiencing or are still experiencing sides from this drug. No Thanks...I think im better off with out it, I do not want to be like 22 - 50 year old individuals that i have read about that want to smash their cars into trees to end their lives because their lives have been ruined from finasteride. Hopefully that answers your question.[/quote:3msabcpo]
That list is scary,but if I ever experience side effects I really hope it is just lack of libido, which can be easily fixed, and obviously I would lower my dosage of finasteride to 1.25mg.
About the guy smashing his car into a tree, it is because of depression, social anxiety and shyness.I dont think you will ever find here anyone who will try to kill themselves because they allege they have finasteride depression.
Anyway revivogen sounds like a good product but it can only do as much...finasteride would cut much of the dht problem from the inside,being far more effective than a shampoo which stays for no more than 5 minutes in your skin a couple of times per week.
treeshrew
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been on propecia (name brand $74/month) coming up on 3 months now (i am 26) - no sides whatsoever. popping the little pill each day is so easy and my hair is looking better already.
good luck with your regimen omar!
been on propecia (name brand $74/month) coming up on 3 months now (i am 26) - no sides whatsoever. popping the little pill each day is so easy and my hair is looking better already.
good luck with your regimen omar!
Ian Curtis
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dude,buy generic.
treeshrew said:
dude,buy generic.
omarrodriguez
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Here you go buddy...check it out:
http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7
I dont want to be a fear monger, but apparently these are what some individuals are experiencing....
Axl_Rose said:
Here you go buddy...check it out:
http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7
I dont want to be a fear monger, but apparently these are what some individuals are experiencing....
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Yea, I also believe it is pretty ridiculous to smash your car into a tree, I was just trying to prove a point to someone. I really dont give a sh*t if my head turned into a cueball, I would never do such a thing.
As for the revivogen, you keep on over night so hopefully that absorbtion process occuring daily will have a simliar effect to Propecia.
Thanks treeshrew! Just recieved my Revivogen yesterday, will start tonight....cross your fingers guys!! :jump: Hopefully this will prove fruitful...Ill keep everyone updated in a few!
Ian Curtis said:
Yea, I also believe it is pretty ridiculous to smash your car into a tree, I was just trying to prove a point to someone. I really dont give a sh*t if my head turned into a cueball, I would never do such a thing.
As for the revivogen, you keep on over night so hopefully that absorbtion process occuring daily will have a simliar effect to Propecia.
treeshrew said:
Thanks treeshrew! Just recieved my Revivogen yesterday, will start tonight....cross your fingers guys!! :jump: Hopefully this will prove fruitful...Ill keep everyone updated in a few!
omarrodriguez
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Vagina! Lol :tongue:
KielMcK said:
Vagina! Lol :tongue: