ok, i have to ask..

[nawlins99]

whos seen "procede" on tv...any takers?

 

[Lopfraze]

scam.

do a forum search.

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[-cj-]

Don't even waste your time.

 

[nawlins99]

figured, had to ask...you know how it is

 

[hoping]

do do a search on other forums too it has worked for some people. Those people are the ones that have tried people who scream scam just dont believe in anything. do a search on their patent and ther back ground the theory they have is intresting and is really imformative.

 

[Guest]

Usually when somone tells you it's a scam so categorically, you must suspect.

When you ask these guys who say it's a scam, if they have tried it, they say no. So, how the f*** they know it's a scam?

Some products have a bad word of mouth Fame, created by competitors.

A good example is Saw Palmetto or PRO-CE-RIN. It has worked on a lot of people, but you have tons of guys screaming deliberatelly "it's a scam"

And 90% of those guys who scream never ever tried it.

Go figure.

 

[Lopfraze]

When you ask these guys who say it's a scam, if they have tried it, they say no. So, how the f*** they know it's a scam?

I've never stuck my c*** in a food blender either - but that doesn't mean I don't know that its not a good idea. Go figure.

There is enough misinformation in the hairloss world, especially for newbies. We have a reponsibilty to share what we know.

Show me ONE DROP of scientific evidence that procede is an effective treatment for hairloss. At best it is some massively overpriced detoxifier. At worst it is complete snake oil.

 

[hoping]

oh wow do you even know what procede does?

before i say anything more i am using procede and it has worked. Not as insane as they claim but my hair is thicker.

Dont say sh*t unless you know what you are talking about. DO A SEARCH ON THE PROCEDE PATENT. It doesnt detox....it works on hairloss by a not very talked about process....Why do we lose hair? cause our shafts gets smaller. So they clear out the shaft and let hair grow back to its normal size....thats lamen terms do a search.

check out hairlosstalk.com people on there using it and yes some of them are newbies but one guy on there has been on that forum for 5 years with over thousands of post...so no he isnt there to promote it. Guess what? THEY EVEN PROVIDE PICS!!!!!! one guy has had beyond awesome results with it...

Lopfraze what is it you know? Why dont you show me a reason WHY IT SHOULDNT WORK or do you even know what it does...

and guess what? IF IT DOESNT WORK FOR YOU YOU CAN GET ALL YOUR MONEY BACK!

i read about 100 pages of research on why it does work and finally convinced myself to try it. Why? because the way it works makes perfect sense.

People like Lopfraze jumps on teh bandwagon of scam just so if it really is they can say they told them so. But when it really does work youll never hear anything from them.

this is why forums are unrealiable for information because 90% of the people on here have no knowledge about products. they jsut scream scam cause its easier...

i have hope there fore ill try it...agian why? ill get my money back...

and yes i also read some people trying it and it didnt work for them and they got their money back after 3 months the supposedly time till next dosage.

 

[ttwarrior1]

money back guarantee and has rogaine in it so why not use it and return it

 

[beaner]

money back guarantee and has rogaine in it so why not use it and return it

I'm pretty sure it doesn't have minoxidil in it. It's some sort of chemical peel from what I understand about the product and have read of user experiences. It's definitely not something I would consider trying at the moment, although I must say I have read posts by users of the product (another forum) who say it's working for them.

 

[Lopfraze]

oh wow do you even know what procede does?

before i say anything more i am using procede and it has worked. Not as insane as they claim but my hair is thicker.

Dont say $#iT unless you know what you are talking about. DO A SEARCH ON THE PROCEDE PATENT. It doesnt detox....it works on hairloss by a not very talked about process....Why do we lose hair? cause our shafts gets smaller. So they clear out the shaft and let hair grow back to its normal size....thats lamen terms do a search.

check out hairlosstalk.com people on there using it and yes some of them are newbies but one guy on there has been on that forum for 5 years with over thousands of post...so no he isnt there to promote it. Guess what? THEY EVEN PROVIDE PICS!!!!!! one guy has had beyond awesome results with it...

Lopfraze what is it you know? Why dont you show me a reason WHY IT SHOULDNT WORK or do you even know what it does...

and guess what? IF IT DOESNT WORK FOR YOU YOU CAN GET ALL YOUR MONEY BACK!

i read about 100 pages of research on why it does work and finally convinced myself to try it. Why? because the way it works makes perfect sense.

People like Lopfraze jumps on teh bandwagon of scam just so if it really is they can say they told them so. But when it really does work youll never hear anything from them.

this is why forums are unrealiable for information because 90% of the people on here have no knowledge about products. they jsut scream scam cause its easier...

i have hope there fore ill try it...agian why? ill get my money back...

and yes i also read some people trying it and it didnt work for them and they got their money back after 3 months the supposedly time till next dosage.

I'm happy that you like the product, and if you think it works for you, then great.

But, at the end of the day, you always have to go back to scientific evidence.

You say your "hair is thicker". Well that could be for a multitude of reasons - for example natural hair cycle. Others might say it works for them, others might say it doesn't. The only way to decide if something works, is through scientific evidence. And there is no scientific evidence that Procede works.

You can show me all the f*****g photos in the world, and talk to me about "clearing out shafts", but it means nothing. How the hell do you know that this product clears out shafts, and that this clearing of shafts aids hair regrowth? Are you a doctor?...

...Hey, lets try this - hairloss is about a lack of blood supply to the hair follicles. So if I hang upside down on my head, then blood will rush to my head, and my hair will regrow! Woohoo! Sounds logical enough, doesn't it. But of course, its complete, total and utter f*****g bullshit. Just because you, a layman, likes the sound of the science, doesn't mean sh*t.

And yes, all the hairloss research fascilities in the world, Merck, GlaxoSmithkline et al. missed this wonderful scientifc breakthrough; whilst these guys, discovered it and are the only ones selling this "miracle cure for hairloss".

I'm just going to finish by referring to this comment:

Why dont you show me a reason WHY IT SHOULDNT WORK or do you even know what it does...

The onus is not for one to show that something doesn't work, but that it does work. If you can't appreciate that, then you are an idiot. For example, I contest that hanging upside down for 4 hours a day prevents hairloss. Show me a reason WHY IT SHOULDN'T WORK! Because according to your retarded logic, if you can't, then hanging upside down is a therefore cure for hairloss.

You are clearly hoping that this works for you. I hope it does too. But I doubt it somehow. The history of hairloss treatments is littered with with conmen trying to make a fast buck selling snake oils. Though I doubt procede will harm your hair, I doubt it will really help it either. And it certainly will hurt your wallet.

Anyway, enough. I've got things to do.

 

[hoping]

i have tried the big three and was on it for 5 years before i decided it didnt work, i also had used minox15 and nizoral 2% during those times...all that only worked for about a year then back to hairloss again.

the scientific evidence you keep asking for is IN THE PATENT I KEEP TELLING YOU TO READ ON ITS SIMPLE READ THE PATENT

btw before i forget to the poster before there is no minoxidil in procede

The photos i was talkign about are from posters like you and me...not some company trying to sell anything....

as for clearing out shafts just read the patent...im not a doctor but apperently there has to be something there to be patented...damn man how simple can it be to read the couple pages on the patent...

now i hate to tell you that your the moron....probably the biggest moron i know on here...HAIRLOSS IS NOT THE LACK OF BLOOD SUPPLY TO THE HAIR NOT AT ALL NOTHING TO DO WIHT BLOOD NOTHING AT ALL. Did you not read anything hairloss is casued by DHT BUILD UP IN THE HAIR FOLLICLES MAKING IT SHRINK. THus casuing your hair to miniturize. This is where procede steps in, but hey what do i konw? you think your blood vessels in your head are dying.......wow man...you just proved yourself to be dumb.. http://www.hairlosstalk.com/research/men/step1men.htm front page.... what the hell did you think finasteride was doing for you...opening up your blood vessels? NO IT was BLOCKING DHT TO PREVENT IT FROM COLLECTING IN THE SHAFTS AND SHRINKING YOUR HAIR THEN EVENTUALLY IT DIES COMPLETELY

ha still laughing to myself...that i was argueing with a moron...thought you at least knew something.

ps: if at the 3rd app this doesnt work i get all my money back...so NO it wont hurt my wallet.

 

[hoping]

[scientific evidence. And there is no scientific evidence that Procede works.

Just because you, a layman, likes the sound of the science, doesn't mean $#iT.

wow did you just contradict yourself...the scientific PROOF IS IN THE PATENT.

 

[hoping]

all the hairloss research fascilities in the world, Merck, GlaxoSmithkline et al. missed this wonderful scientifc breakthrough; whilst these guys, discovered it and are the only ones selling this "miracle cure for hairloss".

they did not miss this "cure" which its not a cure since it does not permantly fix the problem. They had all their research done on how to prevent DHT build up in the shaft and they discovered they could block the synthesis of it.

as for procede they are going at it at a whole other approach. Instead of stoping the synthesis of DHT they try to protect the hair shaft itself WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN DONE yet.



Take minoxidil for example that was not researched it was stumbled up on that this grew hair when someone used it FOR A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CAUSE

Then there is finasteride again what your taking which is for prostate enlargement, but yet you are using it for hairloss. did someone did research and made this drug? NO it was just stumbled up on also

 

[Bryan]

Then there is finasteride again what your taking which is for prostate enlargement, but yet you are using it for hairloss. did someone did research and made this drug? NO it was just stumbled up on also

WRONG. Finasteride for hairloss was not "stumbled upon". It was specifically designed from the very beginning for various androgen-related problems, including balding.

Bryan

 

[Traxdata]

Then there is finasteride again what your taking which is for prostate enlargement, but yet you are using it for hairloss. did someone did research and made this drug? NO it was just stumbled up on also

WRONG. Finasteride for hairloss was not "stumbled upon". It was specifically designed from the very beginning for various androgen-related problems, including balding.

Bryan

Are you sure about that. I thought it was a side affect of Finasteride that helped balding men. Men reported hair growth whilst on the treatment.

 

[Lopfraze]

Point 1

now i hate to tell you that your the moron....probably the biggest moron i know on here...HAIRLOSS IS NOT THE LACK OF BLOOD SUPPLY TO THE HAIR NOT AT ALL NOTHING TO DO WIHT BLOOD NOTHING AT ALL. Did you not read anything hairloss is casued by DHT BUILD UP IN THE HAIR FOLLICLES MAKING IT SHRINK. THus casuing your hair to miniturize. This is where procede steps in, but hey what do i konw? you think your blood vessels in your head are dying.......wow man...you just proved yourself to be dumb..

You f*****g idiot. Of course I don't believe that hanging upside down will prevent hairloss. My point was that using the kind of stupid retarded logic that you use, it is perfectly possible to argue that this is an effective treatment.

You don't have a very good command of the English language, do you? Did you even go to school? Do you understand the concept of playing devil's advocate? Are you an idiot?


Point 2

the scientific PROOF IS IN THE PATENT.

A patent is NOT proof. Where is the independent scientific evidence? Moron.


Point 3

you just proved yourself to be dumb.. http://www.hairlosstalk.com/research/men/step1men.htm front page.

From that webpage:

"Sweat & Dirt? No. Beware of any treatment that claims it is "cleaning" the follicles of excess sebum, dirt, or sweat. Anyone who has ever had an ingrown hair can vouch for the fact that it takes a heck of a lot more than oil to stop a hair from growing through something. You sweat in high school, and you never lost a hair from it.

Way to contradict yourself. Retard.


Conclusion

Right, so we've established that you are:

a) an idiot (who doesn't understand english)
b) a moron (who doesn't understand science)
c) a retard (who doesn't understand reason)

Your parents must be so proud.

 

[hoping]

Point 1

you think hairloss is caused by lack of blood supply(please refer back to your post). I didnt attack your lamens terms on hanging upside down for preventing or curing hairloss at all. Do you know how to read? I attacked you on how you thought our blood vessels were thinning thus hairloss. The funny thing is its even in bold and you dont even understand. For people reading this remember kiddies hairloss is caused by the build up of DHT which DOES NOT COME FROM THE SCAPLE it comes from the inside of your body and has nothing to do with blood to the shafts.

Point 2

AGAIN READ THE PATENT the patent itself is not scientific proof the scientific eperiments EXPLAINED IN THE PATENT IS your scientific proof. God learn how to read before you reply

Point 3

Again no where on there says anything about blood loss causing hairloss. I didnt contradict myself as i was not talking about PARTICLES GETTING INTO YOUR HAIR SHAFT as that paragraph you copied stated. I am talking about the DHT FROM THE INSIDE OF YOUR BODY building up at the hairshaft making it shrink. Again READ. DHT is proven to be the reason why we lose hair. It goes around the hairshaft till it shrinks it so much hair can not grow anymore.

learn to read "retard"

Conclusion

you are the one who does not understand english. You do not seem to read what is written but jump to conclusions. You ruin forums by providing false information I.E. bloodloss to the hair shafts causing hairloss.

And to Bryan as stated finasteride was "stumbled" upon as a sideeffect for another treatment. The treatment was for enlarged prostate and the prevention of prostate cancer. The drug was used to stop the conversion of DHT which also helped stop hairloss. This is when mereck stepped in to see how effective this was on stopping hairloss. The most dangerous side effect is that if you do indeed get prostate cancer while on this drug the cancer is 100x worst then it would normally be.

 

[Lopfraze]

you think hairloss is caused by lack of blood supply(please refer back to your post).

NO I DON'T YOU STUPID f*****g MORON.

I WAS PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE YOU DUMBASS f*****g RETARD.

ARE YOU REALLY SO UNBELIEVABLY f*****g STUPID THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT?

the scientific eperiments EXPLAINED IN THE PATENT IS your scientific proof

I can patent a tin foil hat and call it a cure for hair loss, if I want to. And I can do my own eperiments (sic). But that doesn't mean it works. A PATENT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE INDEPENDENT SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE.

I'm going to ask you this question one more time, and I hope that this time your stupid retarded f*****g brain answers it:

WHERE IS THE INDEPENDENT SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE?

I'll repeat the question, because you seem a little dense:

WHERE IS THE INDEPENDENT SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE?

WHERE IS THE INDEPENDENT SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE?

WHERE IS THE INDEPENDENT SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE?

WHERE IS THE INDEPENDENT SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE?

WHERE IS THE INDEPENDENT SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE?

Yeah, I know I'll probably get banned for this post, but this guy is driving me nuts.

 

[Guest]

hoping, don't even bother to talk to this guy Lopfraze.

I don't even read his posts.

He is obviously a salesman, who is trying to create panic about other products that compete with him. And he never tried this product.

Ignore him.