Ok...I am ready to do something about this !

[NOMORELOSS]

Hello
I have 24 years old . And ive been loosing hair since i was 19/20 . From the sides it has receded probably about 0.5 inches and some general thinning has occured as well.

I do NOT want to use hard chemicals like propecia . The side effects are just to spooky for me .

I am thinking on trying :
- Revivogen
- LaserComb

What do you say an effective regime can be like ... ?

-Taking revivogen before going to bed .
-Using the shampoos of the Revivogen line.
-Taking Nizoral 2 times per week.
-Using LaserComb 3 times per week.

What is your view on this regime ? Do you think i should add any other product (mind you that i do not wish to take any oral medications ) .
Your expert advice is much aprecciated . I am anxious to start soon and try to at least maintain what i have now ! That would be a sucess already !

Many thanks

 

[KR78]

Revivogen and lasercomb are not best bet to combat DHT, and you are bound to loose more hair unless u control DHT

 

[Nathaniel]

Add minoxidil.

 

[hairwegoagain]

You'll be a cue ball in a few years if you restrict yourself to those items.

 

[lithebod]

agree with the above posts

dont waste your money on the lasercomb - for the last few years they have been saying they were going to get FDA approval - in fact I recall on their website they actually said 2006 was going to be their year - ok I guess we still have 2 months left so it could happen!, lol - if you do a search on lasercomb you will see some of my posts on this topic as well as others - in my opinion its a big con

As for revivogen - again they also said they were enrolling in some sort of clinical trial and that died a death too - no updates in the last two years that Ive been on the scene so very suspcious - I used revivogen for 10 months - thought it was working for about 2 minutes until I realised it basically wasnt. Add to the fact that it is a hassle to apply (greasy, smells and you wouldnt want to go out in public with it on)

Suprise Suprise I reccomend the usual stuff - propecia on its own, or combo it with nizoral, minoxidil (big 3) and if your feeling exotic throw some tricomin or spironolactone into the mix

 

[bubka]

get on some real things (ah la big 3) or like its been said, you will be a cue ball

 

[MPBWarrior]

if u dont use finasteride or dutasteride u better know what you're doing with topicals to get even 50% as much effectiveness.

 

[NOMORELOSS]

Hi guys
Thanks for your inputs...
So basically none of you advocates that ANYTHING besides finasteride or dutasteride can work out...Thats kind of dissapointing to ear..I was really hoping i could go a more "natural" way about this..

I heard (and read on this site) that combining Revivogen with spironolactone can be effective and maintain what you have already. Isnt this true ?

And about the chemicals , are they really worth it (this goes to the ones that do use them and feel the negative effects ) considering all the changes it produces in your body?
I mean i have read relates about deep depressions , impotence or taking you the "edge" out of life...That really scares me guys.....

 

[lithebod]

I was in exactly the same position as you when I started to deal with male pattern baldness two year ago -I was scared as hell when it came to finasteride and it took me a year of realising I was wasting time and money on the alternative treatments to pluck up the courage to start - a year down the line on finasteride and I am so glad I took the plunge.

I have experienced slight sides but nothing that stops me from "functioning" and certainly not worth going bald for. My main worry was gyno and as a precautionary measure I take what I call my "anti b**ch tit stack" of DIM, turmeric and flax lignan supplements - this is purely based on stuff I have read on the net not any hard evidence but its so cheap and easy to use I figure if it puts my mind at rest im happy.

The unfortunate truth is when it comes to treating male pattern baldness you have one two choices: you can either experiment on yourself with stuff like revivogen and spironolactone etc and hope that they work (who knows they might) or you can give yourself the best shot you have of maintaining your hair which is the proven treatments like finasteride. I wasn't willing to keep doing the former hence I chose to go the propecia route.

you could also just choose the third option: go bald gracefully

 

[s.a.f]

My honest opinion is if you're not going to use the proven meds then dont bother at all.

 

[Nathaniel]

I was really hoping i could go a more "natural" way about this.

Trust me, if there was a natural way to this we would all be on it bro. finasteride, minoxidil and nizoral is the way to go. You can add other stuff but this is the bread and butter.

 

[s.a.f]

If meds were all that good then there would be no need for forums like this or hair transplant surgery. Propecia and Avodart would be as well known as nurofen and centrum. Merck and Glaxo would rival microsoft. Also there would be no bald men except the very poor.

 

[TheGlamorous]

Go on Proscar. f*** the haircomb it's a scam that anybody with half a brain could see. Though in our situations we're willing to believe anything: but i'm not anymore.

Proscar = Propecia except it's 5x the dose and only 1.5x the price. So cut the pills into 4ths, 5ths or even 6's if money is an issue. Personally I do it in 4ths because 1.25mG gives me a slightly better peice of mind, knowing that it will help my hair even only a little bit more.

I have yet to try any of the Nanogens/Toppiks' whatever so I don't know. I'll see how Nanogen works though i'm not expecting it too.

 

[NOMORELOSS]

Ok..i see the points that people that have gone a long way in this subject make.
If "natural" ways really worked , than NOONE would put in chemicals in their system.
So the proven regime would be something like :

-1 pill of Propecia a day (what is the best place to buy it ? )
-Use Nizoral at least 2 or 3 times a week (i have no clue where to buy it , since i do not leave in the US and i cant find it locally )
-Use the revivogen shampoos only as a "placebo" measure and to easen your mind

Please correct me or add anything you might find usefull and necessary in this regime.

My immediate questions are :

1-When i read that Propecia works only for 5 years does this mean that after 5 years the REGROWTH effects stop and the MAINTAINING effects as well , or just the REGROWTH part ?
What i mean is if i decide to use propecia does this mean i can only hope for 5 or 6 years of maintaining the same hair and after that i will loose anyway (unless a new treatment comes along) ?
Because i wonder if taking hard chemicals compensates for just adding 5 , 6 or 7 years of hair ..? If i knew it would maintain for life that would be different?

2-What do you guys that take propecia feel about this ? Even if you dont fel ANY side effects your input is also welcomed (i know people that have them tend to speak more about them ) .

3-About the best way to use propecia . Is buying the "real" propecia the smartest move ? And what options do i have regarding pricing and effectiveness of finasteride products (i think that propecia is just finasteride so the generics should be exactly the same..).

Thanks guys . I really want to make sure i plan the close to "perfect" regime here...

 

[bubka]

wtf does "natural" mean anyways... i always loved that marketing term is if it has some real meaning behind it...

 

[Nathaniel]

1-When i read that Propecia works only for 5 years does this mean that after 5 years the REGROWTH effects stop and the MAINTAINING effects as well , or just the REGROWTH part ?
What i mean is if i decide to use propecia does this mean i can only hope for 5 or 6 years of maintaining the same hair and after that i will loose anyway (unless a new treatment comes along) ?
Because i wonder if taking hard chemicals compensates for just adding 5 , 6 or 7 years of hair ..? If i knew it would maintain for life that would be different?

2-What do you guys that take propecia feel about this ? Even if you dont fel ANY side effects your input is also welcomed (i know people that have them tend to speak more about them ) .

3-About the best way to use propecia . Is buying the "real" propecia the smartest move ? And what options do i have regarding pricing and effectiveness of finasteride products (i think that propecia is just finasteride so the generics should be exactly the same..).

Thanks guys . I really want to make sure i plan the close to "perfect" regime here...

To answer your first question with a dht inhibitor like finasteride (propecia) you will pretty much slow the sh*t out of balding. Thats pretty much it. Nobody knows how long you will be able to keep your hair but from the information I have gathered it is definetely more than 5-7 years. If you are consistent with the treatment.

I've only been taking finasteride for 8 months, so far, sides have been minimal and have not balded any further (however I am also on minoxidil though).

As far as what brand of finasteride you should use, I prefer proscar cut in fourths since its not a generic and its pretty cheap.

 

[ugh]

Was on dutasteride/finasteride for four years...results were unbelievable. That's the good news. The bad news is I got gyno pretty bad (5500 bucks down the tubes for surgery) And since quitting in June of 2005 I still have limp dick. How's life going for me? Let's just say your taking a hell of gamble when your putting that stuff in your body. Find out whats really important than make a decision.

 

[NOMORELOSS]

Was on dutasteride/finasteride for four years...results were unbelievable. That's the good news. The bad news is I got gyno pretty bad (5500 bucks down the tubes for surgery) And since quitting in June of 2005 I still have limp dick. How's life going for me? Let's just say your taking a hell of gamble when your putting that stuff in your body. Find out whats really important than make a decision.

WOW...WTF??? That is an impressive testimonal ..For god sake ! You have stopped it for over a year and you STILL are incapable of having an erection ? ... :freaked:

Man its really hard to know what the hell to do...
I mean there are some of you that make it sound so easy.. That it is the only real option and that its better to do something about it than to regret not having done anything later on..
Others talk about limp dicks and terrible sides...

This is a VERY tuff decision to make indeed.... :shock:

 

[TAINTED-MEAT]

Not tough at all, go bald or don't. It's an easy decision to make.

 

[buzzmenot]

Was on dutasteride/finasteride for four years...results were unbelievable. That's the good news. The bad news is I got gyno pretty bad (5500 bucks down the tubes for surgery) And since quitting in June of 2005 I still have limp dick. How's life going for me? Let's just say your taking a hell of gamble when your putting that stuff in your body. Find out whats really important than make a decision.

from which year onwards did it get limp?