I've always been under the impression that at my stage surgery isn't really an option or would be $10k+ but tbh I know very little about the topic so I thought I'd ask here! I'm also interested in hair systems too as I wouldn't really care about the 'drawback' that people who already knew me would know that it's not 'real'. Or would drugs still have an effect? So far I haven't been using anything at all. It progressed rapidly age 17-22 but the last 2 years I haven't noticed further loss. The daylight pics are actually slightly newer than the nighttime ones, not sure why I look like I have more hair on them..
Nw4?5?6? At 24, What Are My Options?
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Norwood 5. At this stage FUT transplant is your only option. Fue won’t work because you are too far gone.
Fut should be between 7-10k. Go to turkey or South Korea if you are that desperate to save money.
Fut Hair transplant or wig/hair system are the only options for you... I’m sorry
Why did you let it get this bad?
Fut should be between 7-10k. Go to turkey or South Korea if you are that desperate to save money.
Fut Hair transplant or wig/hair system are the only options for you... I’m sorry
Why did you let it get this bad?
It happened pretty quickly and I wasn't in a great place at the time so I didn't pay attention/care enough. Also maybe didn't really believe that medication would help much. I expected that it was too late for that though so don't worry, it doesn't depress me or anything haha.
7-10k is honestly cheaper than I expected and funnily enough I already happen to live in Korea. But since it's still a massive cost and massive operation I'd rather first try a hair system. Thing is that all the info I can find on those is about businesses in the US and Europe and it'd clearly be a waste of money to fly there every time for my hair system.. Any idea if they're available in Korea?
Sorry I don’t. It might not Be there since Korea is the plastic surgery capital of the world and they might not want to support competing businesses.
I’m from the US and just know a lot of people go to Korea for hair transplant’s.
I assume you could just google it. Good systems run about a grand so it might be worth a flight to Europe or the US
I’m from the US and just know a lot of people go to Korea for hair transplant’s.
I assume you could just google it. Good systems run about a grand so it might be worth a flight to Europe or the US
Finasteride won’t regrow his hair. Meds just help keep the hair you have. Op is from Korea. He won’t be able to afford konior/ Hasson Wong as his budget is less than 10k.
Dude f off, people have lives and some people's male pattern baldness are much more aggressive than others. Don't post a question like that when it's more than likely that minoxidil/finasteride alone would have only helped marginally.
To OP in the meantime try shaving it down to a 1 (all around evenly, with a clipper guard wahl, andi's, or something similar) and see how you like the look, try tanning your new bald head afterwards as that makes it look better too.
if you don't like the look then start looking into transplants and other options. But give that a try first because if you look good and feel fine with it, it'll save you a world of trouble (and money).
I will post what questions i want to.
If OP has a problem with it he can tell me himself. It was not meant to be an insult to OP i was genuinely curious.
Get off your high horse. I cant stand people like you who preach "political correctness". If there is something i am curious about i will ask. The poster doesn't need to answer if they dont want to.
@reyl you can stick it up your ***
And I can't stand idiots like you who think that you can minoxidil/finasteride yourself out of EVERY balding situation when male pattern baldness is way more aggressive for some than others. What you said is like saying to someone who is short "Dude how did you let it get so bad?" as if it's in their control.
So F you, your lack of empathy, or just general stupidity at saying stuff like that.
And it's morons like you, that cause people not to seek treatment when they should. People like you telling everyone that their receded hairline "looks fine", or "its just mature" and that they would look great with a shaved head does nobody any favors. Its just flat out lying, you cause people to go into denial, then they don't seek treatment until they are Norwood 4 or 5. At that point preventative treatment wont do jack sh*t. BTW i don't think finasteride solves everything but i do think that preventative treatments are important to try as they are most effective at early stages of baldness.
I make no apologies for what i asked. OP said he would be interested in trying meds if they would help his condition. I was curious as to why he waited so long given the severity of his male pattern baldness. He answered the question. And i appreciate it.
@reyl You clearly cant come to terms with your own baldness and are projecting onto OP, i dont think OP even cared that i asked that question.
@reyl Your hairline isnt mature, and your forehead didnt grow bigger since you were 15: your hair receded and you are balding. Come to terms with it. People shouldn't have to tiptoe around this cite and lie just because you want to remain in denial and feel better about your condition. Lying to make someone feel better is one of the worst things you can do.
Everyone here including myself is bald. I'm balding Norwood 3 not a "mature hairline" as some people here like to call it, i am balding and wouldn't want someone to lie just to make me feel better. Honestly being bald is not a death sentence, better to deal with it and get on with your life.
You, Me, OP and the rest of this cite are baldies. If you want to pretend otherwise that fine just don't drag others down with you. Take your "mature hairlines" and Lies about looking better bald somewhere else.
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Again, you don't understand what empathy is because what empathy is that you feel for others that have a situation that YOU yourself often don't. I've never been burned alive before but if I saw a video of a person enduring that, I would feel quite bad.
I'm not projecting anything. I have a NW1 and it was NW0 before like pic related at 15:
my forehead was clearly smaller at that age. Yes that is an animated picture but I couldn't find a better example than that.
I'm here because I recognize eventually when I'm older, it probably won't sustain so I actually have very little loss as of right now(if any).
Look at how many people post "am I balding?" threads and aren't balding on this site. People have their own different reasons for being here. My gf actually thinks I'm ridiculous for being obsessive as I am because my hair is great right now but she doesn't understand that I want to keep it that way.
I'm here for preventative treatment, to see future treatments so I hopefully don't ever have to take finasteride, and I post stuff I know about. But what you said was ridiculous because aggressive NW5 balding is impossible to prevent without dutasteride+transplant. Dutasteride isn't always an easy thing to get access to, and obviously a transplant is cost prohibitive.
edit: and show me where I lied about anything. All I'm saying is that you could have made the same exact post without throwing in that ridiculous line.
"People like you telling everyone that their receded hairline "looks fine", or "its just mature""
This literally never happened, just telling you that there are in fact such things as a mature hairline because the skull grows and expands the forehead. Some people have zero recession in their hairline at all in terms of hair density but it looks like there was because of the aforementioned factor of skull growth. Most people have both the expanded skull+receded hairline.
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You preach empathy and political correctness yet you tell someone to F off and expect to get a positive result. Please explain.... do you think that was an appropriate way to handle the situation?
On top of that you are singleing a very small part of what I said out and you are not included the advice I gave OP - exactly the advice asked for. You are making it seem like my point in posting was to attack OP.
Do you feel OP was insulted by what I said? He did not seem to be in his reply. Op acknowledged his situation in his original post.
Why are you speaking for OP? You make it sound like I was trying to bully or put down the guy. We can debate the effectiveness of finasteride all we want. Personally I fell it would have slowed down his progression but that’s really besides the point. OP had been balding for six years and never sought any kind of treatments. He is considering major surgery, to correct the problem or a hair system- that is major upkeep and can be considered a life altering decision assuming he sticks with it.
Op considering hair system and especially transplants shows that baldness is a serious concern of his. I think given the severity of what OP is considering, asking why he did not ever sought treatment is a legitimate question.
Also your analogy to a short person is incredibly inaccurate. Short person can’t control that they’re short. It’s vastly different if they had 6 year and treatments available to prevent them from having small stature and choosing not to try anything until it’s to late.
Better analogy would be someone with an injured leg. Instead of trying to fix it and prevent further injury they ignore it and continue to overuse the appendage for six years. As a result the leg is damaged beyond repair.
Your animated picture is not even a natural hairline on the young or old guy. It just a bad example. Show me pics of your forehead if you are so confident...
A high forehead with a non receded hairline is still a Norwood 1 not a “mature hairline”. Mature hairline refers to temporal recession and the hairline going at least 1 cm above the highest forehead wrinkle. Assuming your story about your four head is true, which I doubt, your hairline should still line up with your highest four head wrinkles, and wouldn’t be considered a mature hairline. Simply a Norwood 1.
The guy in the previous post was clearly balding. He had a M shaped recession and his hairline clearly went above his highest forehead wrinkle.
I didn’t want to bring this up as this post is getting incredibly long but the majority of young man who come here asking about their hairline horrible day. Most are experiencing slight Temporel recession. This is the early sign of male pattern baldness. Although it’s not noticeable “Mature hairline’s” are in my opinion the best time to get on preventative treatments. I would take Temporel recession as a warning sign.
@reyl i’m sure you fancy yourself a social justice warrior. So much so that you need to pick fights even when none are available. I was giving OP legitimate advice that others have liked on this form. Again you want to take a small part of what I said and make a huge issue out of it . Buy your own standards the way you approached the situation you don’t agree with was insulting and atrocious. Don’t push standards on other people that you can’t keep yourself
Actually I generally lean conservative before you start throwing around SJW @Obesecat but I agree with your points that yes it would slow it down however I've seen it a ton (I'm around entertainment business) where lots of guys with aggressive balding were on propecia with very marginal results, so it seemed insulting and that's why I compared it to the shortness since shortness can't be controlled.
The main reason why I found it insulting is because posters should be welcomed to the forum and not afraid to ask questions, so when they get further insulted it discourages further engagement. Now hopefully we can lay it to rest and if you want to reply just PM me because I don't want to derail the thread (and forum) any further.
The main reason why I found it insulting is because posters should be welcomed to the forum and not afraid to ask questions, so when they get further insulted it discourages further engagement. Now hopefully we can lay it to rest and if you want to reply just PM me because I don't want to derail the thread (and forum) any further.
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finasteride and minoxodil could probably still help him, a year from now on those two he should see noticeable improvement, obviously not Norwood 1, but better than this.
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Give finasteride a try for one year, If you regrow or thicken the hair, it'll be easier for you down the transplant road. Maybe dutasteride if you're desperate enough