Not washing your hair ever?

MidnightFlyer

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Bryan said:
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i have to disagree with you on one thing there. If an individual has glucose control problems, then certain forms of carbs and sugars become potential hazards due to the spikes in blood glucose levels they can cause. sugars and simple carbs do this, complex carbs do not as they get digested far slower.

No they don't. Complex carbs are digested and absorbed at about the same speed as, say, sucrose. You're a little behind the times, Sam.

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Are you familiar with the glycemic index? Fiber will slow down the absorbtion of sugar.
 

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sucrose would be rated as probably a medium or just over 60 on the glycemic index, you wouldnt say that was high enough to warrant some caution? theres conflicting information about these things all over the place as in many ways the terminology has changed or was never standard, read the following :

• Simple carbohydrates are sugars—glucose and fructose from fruits and some vegetables, lactose from milk, sucrose from cane or beet sugar, and others. Table sugar is pure sucrose. Much of the simple carbs we eat are sugars added to processed foods such as sodas, cookies, etc. These added sugars are the main reason why sugar now accounts for 16% of all calories consumed by Americans; 20 years ago, it supplied 11%. Soda alone supplies about one-third of this added sugar.

• Complex carbohydrates, which are chains of simple sugars, consist primarily of starches as well as the fiber that occurs in all plant foods. Starch is the storage form of carbohydrates in plants. Foods rich in complex carbs include grains and grain products (such as bread and pasta), beans, potatoes, corn, and some other vegetables.


Many people would consider potato, bread and pasta as simple carbs, not complex.
 

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MidnightFlyer said:
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No they don't. Complex carbs are digested and absorbed at about the same speed as, say, sucrose. You're a little behind the times, Sam.

Bryan

Are you familiar with the glycemic index? Fiber will slow down the absorbtion of sugar.

Yep. As will fat (BTW, it's mainly SOLUBLE fiber which slows the absorption of carbohydrates). That's why I was careful to specify "other things being equal" in a previous post in this thread.

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PowerSam said:
• Complex carbohydrates, which are chains of simple sugars, consist primarily of starches as well as the fiber that occurs in all plant foods. Starch is the storage form of carbohydrates in plants. Foods rich in complex carbs include grains and grain products (such as bread and pasta), beans, potatoes, corn, and some other vegetables.

Many people would consider potato, bread and pasta as simple carbs, not complex.

HUH?? You just got through saying yourself that potato, bread, and pasta are COMPLEX carbs! :)

And most people nowadays know that potato, bread, and pasta have high glycemic indexes...just as high (or even HIGHER) than the simple sugar sucrose.

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yeah that was my point dude, sorry if i didnt make it clear. i was trying to point out that information on the topic seems to be confused. i'm aware that a potato will give you a much higher glucose spike than a mars bar.

however you just said

"And most people nowadays know that potato, bread, and pasta have high glycemic indexes...just as high (or even HIGHER) than the simple sugar sucrose." - Bryan

i previously said that simple carbs (potato, bread) and sugars caused a similar glucose spike, whereas complex carbs (whole grains) did not and you disagreed with that. you now seem to have said exactly what i said in the first place minus the complex carbs bit of course.

for the record, which do you think are simple carbs, and which are complex?
 

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PowerSam said:
yeah that was my point dude, sorry if i didnt make it clear. i was trying to point out that information on the topic seems to be confused. i'm aware that a potato will give you a much higher glucose spike than a mars bar.

I don't think information on the topic is confused. I think it's exactly like I said: the "complexity" of carbohydrates has little or nothing to do with how rapidly they are absorbed, with the exception of the simple sugar fructose, which (ironically) is absorbed very slowly.

PowerSam said:
i previously said that simple carbs (potato, bread) and sugars caused a similar glucose spike, whereas complex carbs (whole grains) did not and you disagreed with that. you now seem to have said exactly what i said in the first place minus the complex carbs bit of course.

Again I say, how on earth could anyone consider potatoes and bread to be "simple carbs"??

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for the record, which do you think are simple carbs, and which are complex?

Potatoes, bread, grains, and pasta are obviously all complex carbs. Simple sugars include sucrose, glucose, fructose, lactose, etc.

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powersam

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the worst part was that as soon as i disagreed with Bryan ( BiGDoG) Shelton, i knew i'd be wrong. sorry dude i though that there were sugars, then simple carbs, then complex carbs. i do know a little bit about it as i've had to study certain things about the bodies glucose response due to a hereditary condition, but i got that bit wrong. quite an important bit also sadly. but i still think insulin affects hairloss http://www.mercola.com/2000/oct/22/baldness_insulin.htm
 

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I know this is a very old post but I have to share this....


I suppose you've all heard the idea that after a certain time your hair will wash itself? Well i've always been intrigued but too self conscious to go through the first stages of dirty greasy hair. I've been working in the middle east for the last 6 months without any real inclusion in any society to speak of so it was the perfect chance.

Bear in mind I've been using Finasteride for the last 6 years, after some serious balding back in 2005.

So in November 2011 I started my experiment and stopped using shampoo, only using water and a comb in the shower. It actually worked quite well, my hair looked better, if a bit tough at times. After a while I realised it had reached a peak so I washed again in February 2012.

Then, the middle of March, despite my normal regimen of 1.25mg of finasteride a day I noticed some thinning at the temple, and over the last couple of weeks, more thinning on the top of my head. I assumed the meds were wearing off, as I've heard they do after 5 or so years, but I've just made a connection between the not washing. I've read that greasy hair and scalp leads to more DHT. Why didnt I research this before I stopped washing my hair!!??

Well, needless to say I've started washing it everyday now, and am using Neutrogena T Gel, and upped the finasteride dosage, so I'm hoping I can reverse what I think I started.

Just saying what you folks who use this site regularly probably already know -wash your barnet regularly!

Im sure it cant be a cooincidence that I started thinning again so ferociously (seriously, in the last 3 weeks it has been so noticeable its crazy - thats way too fast). There must be a link between the grease and the DHT.

Cheers
 

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I dont think it makes a big difference besides making your greasy and smelley which would make it look thinner when its greasy or wet looking. I would be surprised if it did anything for your hair good or bad.
 

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I went for months without washing my hair just because I hated seeing myself with wet/ unconcealed hair. It looked fine, but my scalp got pretty darn flaky.
 

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I can't discount anecdotal discovery or experiences that not washing your hair for months prevent hair thinning but in some countries, mine included, it is a norm to wash your hair twice a day. I live in a tropical country (Singapore) so your hair will be damp, stinky and oily if you don't wash at least a few times per week.
To many, washing twice or at least once daily is normal. A humourous encounter is one of my friends confessed to washing once a day and garnered many shocked experessions. Despite this, hair loss is a rarity in my country. I'm one of those unlucky bastard to get hairloss at 19. Otherwise, I count no hairloss in my entire school.
 
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