New Drug Promises To Lower Hairline By A Centimeter, Hmi Increase Of 98.8%

[Scrooge McDuck]

REP884 now marketed as Esthecin, made by a dutch doctor van Montfort for his daughter suffering from hair loss.

test results men:
http://www.cigmtr.nl/uimg/cigmtr/b64727_att-topical-treatment-on-androgenetic-hair-loss.pdf

they also did a study on women:
http://www.cigmtr.nl/uimg/cigmtr/b31637_att-hair-serum-rep-884.pdf

website ( in dutch)
https://esthecin.com/

ingredients
Esthecin: Water, Glycerin, Sorbitol, Glycine Soja (Soybean)extract, Erythritol, Octyldodecanol, Citanche Tubulosa Extract, Phenoxyethanol, Fulvic Acid, Squalane, Xanthan Gum, Ethylhexylglycerin, Guar Gom, Canola Sterols, Bisabolol, Trehalose, Phytosterols, Alcohol (Ethanol), Distearyl Lauryl Glutamate, Rosmarinus officinalis, Zingeber Officinale ( Ginger) Root, Seronoa serrulata Fruit Extract, Phytosphingosine, Pentaerythrityl Tetra-di-butyl Hydroxyhydrocinnamate.

they start shipping in three weeks, do you guys think its wort a try? or just another snake oil?
they sell it for 150 euro (175 dollar)for 3 month supply

 

[Xander94]

where are the pictures lmao

 

[whatevr]

Pictures are largely unconvincing. I can't even tell what the active ingredient is supposed to be, they don't tout any mechanism of action.

This smells like a cocktail of bullshit chemicals with some herbal stuff thrown in there. What is all that even supposed to do ?

 

[Kagaho]

Wow. Awful study

Its so poorly written and the pics are garbage

 

[Sanchez1234]

REP884 now marketed as Esthecin, made by a dutch doctor van Montfort for his daughter suffering from hair loss.

test results men:
http://www.cigmtr.nl/uimg/cigmtr/b64727_att-topical-treatment-on-androgenetic-hair-loss.pdf

they also did a study on women:
http://www.cigmtr.nl/uimg/cigmtr/b31637_att-hair-serum-rep-884.pdf

website ( in dutch)
https://esthecin.com/

ingredients
Esthecin: Water, Glycerin, Sorbitol, Glycine Soja (Soybean)extract, Erythritol, Octyldodecanol, Citanche Tubulosa Extract, Phenoxyethanol, Fulvic Acid, Squalane, Xanthan Gum, Ethylhexylglycerin, Guar Gom, Canola Sterols, Bisabolol, Trehalose, Phytosterols, Alcohol (Ethanol), Distearyl Lauryl Glutamate, Rosmarinus officinalis, Zingeber Officinale ( Ginger) Root, Seronoa serrulata Fruit Extract, Phytosphingosine, Pentaerythrityl Tetra-di-butyl Hydroxyhydrocinnamate.

they start shipping in three weeks, do you guys think its wort a try? or just another snake oil?
they sell it for 150 euro (175 dollar)for 3 month supply

Somebody posted this in the dutch forum as well a few days ago and asked the company about the scientific background of the used ingredients. No response yet.

As a dutchman i recommend not buying it yet. There are no before/after photos on the website. I just listened to the successtories on the website and there just stories from balding people and pointing to fuzz on their head...which i dont see.

Will update when somebody reacts to the thread.

About the doctor (his resume is on the website of the company behind the serum):
From 1982 till 2018 he worked as an R&D doctor.
From may2017 to now: owner of own company with Estethin hairloss product to be released may2018.
Only 2 reviews about him: https://www.zorgkaartnederland.nl/zorgverlener/basisarts-montfort-j-c-van-164286

If have read some good stories and some bad stories, the bad stories about him overcharging his patients compared to other doctors..

 

[Min0]

was that written with Microsoft Word ? lol

 

[cloudsanrain]

If this is for the hairline then why are all the examples showing the back of the head ?

 

[Beowulf]

was that written with Microsoft Word ? lol

Word is a mainstay of the academic world, but yeah that's some pretty shitty formatting.

 

[BetaBoy]

Word is a mainstay of the academic world, but yeah that's some pretty shitty formatting.

LaTeX is where it’s at, all my uni work in the later years were required to be formated using it.

 

[BaldAsshole]

When the title of the graphic is:

"Self-assessment"

You know that the study is bullshit.

Also:

"In the Norwood scale the improvement was an average of 3,3 positions with the lowest score 3 positions and the highest score 5 positions."

Yeah, sure. Then why the pics are crap.

 

[abcdefg]

Snake oil. Move topic into the snake oils forum

 

[Georgie]

I can’t really tell what the main ingredients are. Soy isoflavones? I smell bs sadly.

 

[That Guy]

 

[BeastyBoy]

If this is for the hairline then why are all the examples showing the back of the head ?

Its not only for the hairline, but is supposed to strengthen all the hairs and makes it stronger. If the fibril isn't death but simply cannot grow out of the follicles due its weakness it will happen by using this product. Its not a medicine and doesn't threaten the cause of your disease but they tell you that you need to look for a picture from yourself which goes back max. three years and that will be the result you'll get back to by using the product.

They also recommend you to answer some questions on their website to see if this product is useful for your condition. It doesn't work for every disease. The only problem is that it is only available in Dutch language right now.

We just have to wait till people come with their own reviews... for know it seams like another snake oil hitter

 

[nohairnolife]

This pizza is inedible

 

[anybody]

http://www.zwartelijstartsen.nl/zwartelijst_arts/j-c-van-montfort/

( zwartelijstartsen means blacklist of doctors )

This is a website of doctors who are on the dutch blacklist, this doctor Montfort is on it too.
Snake oil.

 

[Kev123]

Snake oil. Move topic into the snake oils forum

This, please.

 

[razzmatazz91]

About time we had a snake oils sub forum.
I can’t stand that “Italian hair loss lotion coming in 2016” on top of the web page everyday.

 

[kiwi666]

About time we had a snake oils sub forum.
I can’t stand that “Italian hair loss lotion coming in 2016” on top of the web page everyday.

Yes!!! I hate seeing that too... waste of admins data, data in general, and a waste of eyeball time!