Need Opinion Of Steroid Users And Experts Plz .

[michel sapin]

Hey guys , i would like to konw how much a classic test cycle increase free testosterone , and oestrogen .ANd the risk of gynecomastia compared with dutasteride .
For exemple ; let say someone take 100 mg of test per week , how much does it raise testosterone and oestrogen ?

I know that dutasteride increase your testosterone by 23 % on average , so after few month you have 23% more oestrogen ( risk of gyno) and 0 Dht to couter the oestrogenic sides .

So does a classic test cycle increase testosterone more than dutasteride ?

 

[tylerduren]

Hey guys , i would like to konw how much a classic test cycle increase free testosterone , and oestrogen .ANd the risk of gynecomastia compared with dutasteride .
For exemple ; let say someone take 100 mg of test per week , how much does it raise testosterone and oestrogen ?

I know that dutasteride increase your testosterone by 23 % on average , so after few month you have 23% more oestrogen ( risk of gyno) and 0 Dht to couter the oestrogenic sides .

So does a classic test cycle increase testosterone more than dutasteride ?

Yeh big time.. 23 % is f*** all

 

[michel sapin]

ok so a classic testosterone cycle increase test more than duta ? So there is more chance to get gyno on steroid cycle than duta ?

 

[g.i joey]

ok so a classic testosterone cycle increase test more than duta ? So there is more chance to get gyno on steroid cycle than duta ?

i think the defining aspect is if youre letting that test convert to dht or not. If you're on finasteride and take testo id say you have ALOT higher chances to get gyno, but if you were to take it while not on finasteride i wouldnt even worry about gyno sides, considering we have dht to even that out.

 

[Zoro]

Hey guys , i would like to konw how much a classic test cycle increase free testosterone , and oestrogen .ANd the risk of gynecomastia compared with dutasteride .
For exemple ; let say someone take 100 mg of test per week , how much does it raise testosterone and oestrogen ?

I know that dutasteride increase your testosterone by 23 % on average , so after few month you have 23% more oestrogen ( risk of gyno) and 0 Dht to couter the oestrogenic sides .

So does a classic test cycle increase testosterone more than dutasteride ?

100mg of test per week is basically a TRT dose. Normal test range for males is like 400-1000ng/dl, people on cycle are usually on amounts that will put them well above double the max natural range, increase in test from dutasteride isn't close to being comparable to a cycle of test. If you're scared of estrogen, you can always try an AI like letro or exemestane, but to be honest if you're asking these types of questions you shouldn't be considering a cycle for a long time.

 

[michel sapin]

thanks for all your answer . I am not considering a cycle , just wanted to know if someaone on 5 ar inhibitor have higher risk of gyno than a guy who take 100 mg test per week withhout aromatase inhibitor?

 

[dralex]

Much higher chance of gyno on test cycle. I have 4 buddies who have done one or multiple cycles and 3 of them had gyno to some degree at one point. One of them even had to have surgery for it because it was that noticeable and wouldn't go away after cycling off.

 

[tylerduren]

thanks for all your answer . I am not considering a cycle , just wanted to know if someaone on 5 ar inhibitor have higher risk of gyno than a guy who take 100 mg test per week withhout aromatase inhibitor?

Ita not about that its about the ratio

 

[michel sapin]

even higher than on dutasteride ? wow this is scary , i don't understand why people can take test if it can cause such high rate of gyno .

 

[michel sapin]

because in my case i had a really low testosterone baseline and oestrogen . But when i take finasteride my test increase of 33 % , which is huge for me , and my oestrogen increase of the same amount . And with the reduced DHT , this is a really bad combo .
If my test and oestro only increase of 10 % i would be safe .

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

even higher than on dutasteride ? wow this is scary , i don't understand why people can take test if it can cause such high rate of gyno .

A lot of people take test with aromatase inhibitors to prevent gyno.

 

[g.i joey]

because in my case i had a really low testosterone baseline and oestrogen . But when i take finasteride my test increase of 33 % , which is huge for me , and my oestrogen increase of the same amount . And with the reduced DHT , this is a really bad combo .
If my test and oestro only increase of 10 % i would be safe .

if you had low testo prior to finasteride, wouldnt this lower it once you're done your test cycle? isnt the whole thing about trt that it kind of halts your bodies natural production of testo?

 

[dralex]

even higher than on dutasteride ? wow this is scary , i don't understand why people can take test if it can cause such high rate of gyno .

You can't just take steroids. You gotta take Anti-Es (anti-estrogens) as well. Still have a decent chance of getting gyno though.

 

[michel sapin]

Ok , so even on AI you can get gyno ?
And yes my baseline testo was really low , it was quite shocking for a 21 yo male . I almost needed trt according to my Doctor .
However at that time i had totally no libido problem or other things . Just start of male pattern baldness .
And when i sarted fina my test increased quite a lot , so it started converted to oestrogen

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Ok , so even on AI you can get gyno ?
And yes my baseline testo was really low , it was quite shocking for a 21 yo male . I almost needed trt according to my Doctor .
However at that time i had totally no libido problem or other things . Just start of male pattern baldness .
And when i sarted fina my test increased quite a lot , so it started converted to oestrogen

Start with increasing your testosterone naturally, see what you can do with that.

Www.peaktestosterone.com.

 

[michel sapin]

sorrry if you misendurstod me ( i am french) .
I don't wan't to increase my test , i was perfectly fine with low test level .
Just wanted to know if duta has higher chance of gyno than average steroid cycle .
I would like to start duta , but don't wan't to have gyno. And for me fina and duta have the effect of a test cycle with all the drawbacks , and a little of the pros ( i build more muscle )

 

[biddybomb]

You can't just take steroids. You gotta take Anti-Es (anti-estrogens) as well. Still have a decent chance of getting gyno though.

I did this once when I was depressed. Needed something to distract me and I was in a reckless state. 500mg of test e a week with a 1000mg preload the first week. Got to week 10 and ran out of juice and just came off without any support. No signs of gyno but I was bloated. I need to get my hormones checked to see if I fucked anything up but I don't think so considering I am now at my biggest and strongest ever as a natty and I had been lifting for 5 years before I cycled.

If I wasn't prone to hairloss I would be on all kindsa roids. f*****g hairloss.

 

[dralex]

I did this once when I was depressed. Needed something to distract me and I was in a reckless state. 500mg of test e a week with a 1000mg preload the first week. Got to week 10 and ran out of juice and just came off without any support. No signs of gyno but I was bloated. I need to get my hormones checked to see if I fucked anything up but I don't think so considering I am now at my biggest and strongest ever as a natty and I had been lifting for 5 years before I cycled.

If I wasn't prone to hairloss I would be on all kindsa roids. f*****g hairloss.

Ever considered a test cycle while taking dutasteride and anti-e's? Probs would be loaded with testosterone then. May prevent hair loss as well. I've heard of a few people doing that to prevent hair loss and increase testosterone during a cycle.