47thin said:
No offense doctor Proctor, but I wouldn't put your products up with Intel's.
Here is the problem. After a quick search, I don't see any success stories with Prox-N or NANO alone. Period. Seeing as we can't do large scale tests, I had to look at the 400 entries and see none were regarding prox-n alone or NANO. There were only a few saying they may try Prox-N or one that had used PRox-N along with everything else.
I'm not saying you are a quack, or that you are selling some YOU don't believe in, but honestly, I see more positive reviews for Nioxin than NANO on Amazon's website, as well. That doesn't mean Nioxin works, either, but you get my drift.
I wish your stuff worked either really well, or was cheap enough to do a long term trial. I have a feeling that you have a lot of 2 or 3 bottle orders, and that's it. They give up and move on to the next thing.
I am originally a PhD, Pharmacologist-toxicologist. We are the people who develop drugs for drug companies. Which is why I can point out how AstraZeneca messed up their NXY-059 stroke trial by cleaning up their formulation, as noted below. PhD pharmacologists with MD's are vanishingly rare and in great demand. I could find lots of other things to do if I wanted too.
Most persons use our non-prescription products along with something else. Although they have since gone thru numerous refinements, Prox-N and later NANO shampoo were originally formulated back when minoxidil was a prescription agent and were so that people cound get the advantage of our technology without using our prescription formulations. This is in line with my often-expressed fonding that individual agents don't work all that well. The trick is to use multiple agents that work in different ways.
E.g., by itself, NANO seems about as effective as 2% minoxidil and will work in persons whom that treatment has failed. It likely works in a different way from minoxidil and so is additive and possibly synergistic. Same with (e.g.) SOD's, etc. This is well-confirmed by the fact (e.g.) Loreal and Shisedo have patents on variations on this technology which they cannot use. Fact is, the major pharmaceutical companies have abandoned this area. If you are going to get new technology, it is going to be from companies like ours or (say) Dr Lee's.
Interestingly, L'Oreal markets something called "Nanoworks" which contains an SOD. Skirting both our trademark and our patents, they very carefully avoid claiming that this grows hair. But looking at their patent portfolio, it is clear that they know it does.
As for Nioxin. You picked a bad example--- It does work some. So many things work at least a little that it is difficult to get something that does not work some. The classic example is propylene glycol, which seems to account for roughly half of the growth from 2% minoxidil solutions. So considering the enormous amounts sold, it is no surprise it gets occasional endorsments.
Peter H. Proctor, PhD,MD