nano shampoo

[Oknow]

Short review: Shedding has definently decreased since adding this into my regime. I was shedding 20+ hairs at the start of the month, now shedding less then 6 when showering.

Cosmetically: it is making my hair look thicker after wash

Regrowth and maintainance too early to say. However topical spironolactone alone has maintained my hair after 4 months - in the area i have been applying it too.

 

[blaze]

How often do you use NANO shampoo?

 

[47thin]

It could just be the spironolactone, killing more and more DHT. I used NANO for quite some time and found no effect. I really don't see what is in it that is going to regrow hair.

 

[Bryan]

I used NANO for quite some time and found no effect. I really don't see what is in it that is going to regrow hair.

It's the nitric-oxide part of the molecule, similar to what's in minoxidil: Nicotinic Acid Nitric-Oxide.

 

[47thin]

Used minoxidil, and it seemed to have effect, though I had to discontinue it. Bryan, you seem like a good guy, but I'm just telling you, I didn't see results, and I haven't read anyone hear saying it did much. When someone mentions polysorbate 80 or 20, from the old Helsinki formula, that was completely discredited, I think they are barking up the wrong tree. I wish the stuff worked, believe me- why wouldn't I? Hell, a shampoo that regrows hair!? If it worked, with no sides, it would be huge!!!!

Think about it, all those guys in the gym, working out- do you think they wouldn't want better hair? And women. Hands down it would sell like crazy if there was FDA proof it worked.

Like I said, you seem like a good guy, very helpful, and I am not trying to start a flame war. As I've said in the past, I'm sure the good doctor thinks it helps. That doesn't mean it does. At least he uses his own stuff.

 

[Bryan]

Used minoxidil, and it seemed to have effect, though I had to discontinue it. Bryan, you seem like a good guy, but I'm just telling you, I didn't see results, and I haven't read anyone hear saying it did much.

I'm not necessarily saying that NANO Shampoo "does much" (meaning "a lot") when used all by itself, just that Dr. Proctor has said clearly and unequivocally that the molecule called NANO _does_ have the effect on hair he says it does. He's had experience with it for decades, and I trust what he says.

By the way, Dr. Proctor has said that of all is products, NANO Shampoo is the LEAST effective of all of them. The only reason he has the shampoo in the first place is mainly for the users of his other products (Proxiphen and Prox-N) to be able to supplement their scalps with some additional NANO, since the other two are limited in the amounts of NANO that they can hold.

Like I said, you seem like a good guy, very helpful, and I am not trying to start a flame war. As I've said in the past, I'm sure the good doctor thinks it helps. That doesn't mean it does. At least he uses his own stuff.

You can see other comments similar to what you just said about most every other product, too. Guys saying that they didn't get a lick of benefit from Rogaine, despite the fact that it's FDA-approved. Guys saying that they continued to lose hair, even while taking Propecia. Should we assume that just because minoxidil and finasteride don't work for some people, they don't work for anybody? Should we also assume that just because NANO Shampoo didn't seem to work for you, it doesn't work for anybody?

 

[47thin]

There is a world of difference between not working for some and not working for almost anybody! Yes, there are people complaining that minoxidil or finasteride didn't do anything, but there are tons of people on here that have experienced benefits. SUBSTANTIAL benefits. Bryan, you are the only person that has posted a photo of the efficacy of NANO. IF he sold it for the same price as Nizoral, I would probably feel different. But at $ 38 per bottle, it's a scam.

 

[Bryan]

There is a world of difference between not working for some and not working for almost anybody!

Oh, I think you're crossing a big line in the sand, when you go from saying that it didn't work for YOU, to saying that it didn't work for almost ANYBODY! :smack:

You don't know that that's the case, that's pure speculation on your part. By the way, have you seen the before-and-after photos of the NANO Shampoo user on Dr. Proctor's Web site?

Bryan, you are the only person that has posted a photo of the efficacy of NANO.

No I haven't. Those photos are mainly from my use of Prox-N. I only used NANO Shampoo like maybe once a week or so. That obviously isn't a fair test of the shampoo.

IF he sold it for the same price as Nizoral, I would probably feel different. But at $ 38 per bottle, it's a scam.

People keep complaining about that, but if you use it judiciously, it's not all that expensive. Use a "pre-wash" with an ordinary dirt-cheap shampoo first, followed by a very modest amount of NANO Shampoo. If you do that, you can make a bottle of the stuff last a long time.

 

[47thin]

I've done quite a few hopeful searches in the Success stories to no avail. Like I said, I would be really happy if it worked well. Considering what is in it, and comparing it to Nizoral is not unfair, NANO is expensive. I also have read here that Doctor Proctor has said it is "the best bang for the buck".

Let's just agree to disagree.

Thanks, 47thin

 

[rcom440]

Doctor Proctor has said it is "the best bang for the buck".
Of course he said that, he want's to sell his products.

"the best bang for the buck" yeah but where's the "bang" ?
Lets be honest, Nano is not that great. I would choose Nizoral or Revita anyday.

 

[treeshrew]

i always thought nano was more for scalp fungus etc. in addition to male pattern baldness.

if you have inflamed scalp, or other fungal scalp condition then use the nano.

for plain old male pattern baldness i've personally never been much of a fan. i tried at first when i was a noob and thought it was a key part of the "big 3". but i discontinued after a few months.

 

[47thin]

I think you are thinking of Nizoral. There are no anti fungal properties in NANO.

 

[ethan]

I really want to try this shampoo.

http://www.internatural-alternative-hea ... 225080.cfm

Contains alot of good ingredients/extracts plus it's pH balanced, cheap too.

 

[pproctor]

Nothing works for everybody. But we use what seems to work in our hands. I hold nine patents covering a variety of hair-loss stimulators. There are plenty of patents out there covering the same areas, e.g., NANO ester patents from Sheisodo and SOD patents from L'Oreal.

E.g., go to www.uspto.gov and do a patent search using superoxide dismutase and loreal. Because of my primary patents, they cannot use whole classes of such agents for hair loss treatment. I can.

Peter H. Proctor, PhD,MD

 

[Bryan]

There are plenty of patents out there covering the same areas, e.g., NANO ester patents from Sheisodo...

Dr. P, you told us several years ago on alt.baldspot that there was a Japanese company that had taken out a patent on NANO (or maybe it was some derivative of NANO) for hairloss. Was it this same "Sheisodo" company that you just mentioned? Are the NANO esters as effective for hairloss as NANO itself?

 

[pproctor]

There are plenty of patents out there covering the same areas, e.g., NANO ester patents from Sheisodo...

Dr. P, you told us several years ago on alt.baldspot that there was a Japanese company that had taken out a patent on NANO (or maybe it was some derivative of NANO) for hairloss. Was it this same "Sheisodo" company that you just mentioned? Are the NANO esters as effective for hairloss as NANO itself?

Yes, this is the Japanese pharmaceutical and cosmetic firm. No I don't know how well the esters work compared to NANO itself.

Peter H. Proctor, PhD,MD

 

[billythekid]

nano shampoo has been around for a long time.

i tried it, like many others. it didn't work for me.

the only shampoo that did anything (and i've tried lots of different ones) was alpecin. it halted shedding.

 

[Maicky]

Alpecin Shampoo! I checked out their website. Interesting. Which one did you use? I see they have many different.

 

[47thin]

No offense Doctor Proctor, but patents do not replace large scale tests of product efficacy. A patent simply says that no one can sell the product and make the claim, not that the product works. If these were great products, and they grew as much hair as minoxidil does, you would have been made a substantial offer long ago. Honestly, if NANO worked as well as even 2 % minoxidil did, and had no sides, there is a huge market place. Please don't tell us you are not in it for the money. $ 50 per bottle says different. In all honesty if it sold for $ 8.95 per bottle, and tens of thousands of balding men took a shot at using it, we would know pretty fast if it works or not. At $ 50 per bottle, it is too cheap to hassle for returning, and profitable enough to get men to go through 2 or 3 bottles, and chalk it up to experience.

Also, just because Proxiphen works, does not mean Prox-N or Nano works. Proxephin contains minoxidil, so, of course it works.

And by the way, no wants it to work more than I, as I cannot use minoxidil.

 

[47thin]

PS Doctor Proctor- If you really, really believe Prox-N works, send me a free one year supply. After one year, if my hair looks thicker and have regrowth, I post it in every bald blog you can imagine. I've already spent several hundred dollars with you to no avail. You can PM your answer.