My scalp is so unhealthy...

[YoungAndThin]

The title explains it all. My scalp is constantly itchy, flakey and even hurts sometimes.

I've had dandruff since I was about 12 or 13 and no matter how much Nizoral, T-Gel, Head and Shoulders I use it never seems to go away.

I doubt that my scalp healthy causes my male pattern baldness but it certainly doesn't help. I really think if my scalp was more healthy it would help slow down the progression of male pattern baldness.

Can any of you who have had similar problems recommend me a shampoo or vitamin/supplement regimen that will help?

 

[Strat54]

If your scalp's dryness, redness, itching and flaking is persistent, and does not disappear with the use of an anti-dandruff shampoo, you may not be suffering from dandruff.

You could have psoriasis or eczema, which require special treatment.

For promoting a healthy scalp (and help to combat the psoriasis) you could try:
Hydrocortisone
Emu oil
Aloe Vera
Copper peptides (Folligen, Tricomin)

But I think you should see a dermatologist fist.

 

[YoungAndThin]

can psoriasis or eczema only affect the scalp?

because the skin on my rest of my body is healthy and has no problems.

 

[docj077]

Continuous application of topical steriods is not recommended by any physician. Like another poster said, go and see a dermatologist. Find a good one and make sure that you tell him or her what you've been using as you've pretty much used the full spectrum of treatment already.

So, is your scalp dry and flakey or oily and flakey? If it's the latter, then the only other treatment your derm. may consider is a higher dose of Nizoral. If it's the former, then just go out an buy some Johnson's Baby Shampoo with Honey and Vitamin E in it. I use the stuff and I never have problems.

As a last resort, consider apple cidar vinegar for when you have some time to spare at home and your scalp feels unbearable. The stuff is smelly and simply aweful, but it'll calm any inflammation or itching. Apply it for 15 minutes and then take a shower using the baby shampoo. You'll feel like a million bucks.

Lastly, I've never tried it, but some people have luck with stuff like Scalpicin. You could consider that, as well.

Of course, your doctor should have the final word.

 

[michael barry]

Doctor,

For a complete regimine that fought all aspects of male pattern baldness, and considering this list of anti-antigens:

DHT inhibition- Finasteride, Saw Palmetto, Rivoflavin, Green Tea Extract, Copper, Peptides, and Topical Bayberry Extract.

PKC down regulation - Grape Seed Extract, Resveratrol, Vitamin E, Soy Isoflavones.

TNF-a down regulation- Curcumin, Ginkgo Biloba Extract, Stinging Nettle Extract, Green Tea Extract, Fish Oil, Borage Oil, Perilla Oil, and Topical Perilla leaf extract.

TGF down regulation- Curcumin, and topical Amacha


................one could seemingly take internal grape seed extract for PKC downregulation (plus whatever vitamin E is in their multivitamin), internal stinging nettle, borage seed oil, or green tea extract for TNF-alpha regulaton, and perhaps topical Amacha for TGF beta one in a safe way.

Ive thought about how one could get all the TGFbeta one inhibitors in a "safe" topical way. We know of curcumin, barley proanthocyandins, and amacha. Just boil some amacha leaves and curcumin in beer. Add a little alchohol (everclear) as a vehichle. Use before the shower like cider vinegar.


If one used NANO shampoo and took finasteride along with this..............................they'd seemingly cover all the bases other than a receptor blocker.

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To summarize...........DHT-finasteride (or revivogen 2X a day or spironolactone)
PKC--grape seed extract and a multivitamin
TNF- stinging nettle
TGF beta---topical amacha and curcumin boiled in
beer 20 min. Add some alcohol to mix before
shower.
Inflammation----NANO shampoo every day


Doctor, wouldn't this get about everything? All with one homeade topical?


Doctor, by the way...................if propecia caused you to feel "foggy", revivogen should do this also. spironolactone might be the way for you to go in that case on the anti-androgenic front.




I keep looking for one common sense, easy to follow regimine for newbies.

 

[docj077]

Michael Barry,

Your regimen is definitely a good idea. In topical form, it's even better.

I'm really happy with my decision to use pretty much the same thing, but as an internal as I've lost none of the ground that I maintained with propecia. My scalp doesn't get that familiar itch and pain right before I loose hair anymore and if it does I can simply control it with apple cider vinegar.

I still don't know what the long term benefits will be, but at least I still have vellous hairs growing along my adolescent hairline. Only time will tell, I guess.

As soon as a company makes a decent TGF-beta antagonist that is targeted like it's supposed to be, I'll be the first person to swipe it up.

 

[SnowRider22]

Go to the store and buy apple cider vinegar, I love the stuff. Just pour the ACV on your head and rub it in, simple as that.

 

[Guest]

Michael Barry,

You said that the regimen includes everything except a receptor blocker? Why not add topical spironolactone 2x a day to your already seemingly excellent proposed regimen?

What do you think of this regimen?

Dutasteride 0.5 mg internally - every day
spironolactone 5% cream topically- twice a day, morning and night

Nano - 5 days a week
Nizoral - 2 days a week

Curcumin internally - 300 mg twice a day
Vitamin E- 200 IU once a day
Grapeseed extract internally - once a day
Green tea extract internally - once a day
Vitamin B6 internally - once a day
Biotin internally - once a day.

That should cover all bases right?

 

[Guest]

Michael Barry,

Your regimen is definitely a good idea. In topical form, it's even better.

Why better in topical form?

 

[docj077]

Michael Barry,

Your regimen is definitely a good idea. In topical form, it's even better.

Why better in topical form?

It's very difficult to even know if such internals even make their way out into the peripheral blood circulation in high enough doses to even make a difference. These herbs are very powerful internally, but it seems as though most mixtures that use them are used topically. Especially, when it comes to inflammation or psoriasis.

There has to be reason behind the oldage madness.

I'm going to keep using them as internals and when a decent anti-fibrosis medication hits the market, I'm going to use it for hair loss.

Anti-aging, anti-scarring, whatever. I'm going to mix it with a very light dose of steriods and give it a shot. They're already making anti-aging creams that are supposed to be anti-fibrotic. When I have the time I'm going to start looking into them more.

 

[MPBWarrior]

try the scalp exercises below. they increase blood supply to the scalp, strengthen scalp muscles, stimulate scalp cells (incluiding hair follicles) and flush out waste material.