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My Father Versus Me At The Same Age?

Discussion in 'Men's General Hair Loss Discussions' started by db135, Oct 23, 2019.

  1. db135

    db135 New Member My Regimen

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    Hi folks, have a question if anyone can help.

    I will be 34 in 4 months, i have a slightly receeded hairline, basically the corners moved back in my late teens and more or less stayed the same since. My temple points are also thin but have been a long time. I took photos 3 years ago and its impossible to see any change.

    The men on my mothers side had decent heads of hair into old age.

    My dad is like norwood 5 or 6 with frizz on top at 70 years old.

    I have a picture of him when he is somewhere between 34 and 35 he is basically a norwood 5. The front is almost completely gone! I have way more hair than him and unless it all falls out in the next year i will have a lot more at his age than he did.

    At the moment my hair is very thick, my dads hair was much thinner even when he was a kid.

    Baldness in the family comes from my dads dad. My dads mothers side have good hair. Probably why my dad has more hair than his dad.

    Can i take it as a good sign that i have a lot more hair than my dad at around the same age?
     
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    db135 New Member My Regimen

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    Anyone?
     
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    pegasus2 Senior Member

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    Genetics are funny, and there's more to it than just genetics. Maybe you'll go bald next year, maybe you won't. Good luck
     
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    if your hair is thick - don't take finasteride man. i took it in a similar situation to you and it made all my hair go so thin and i have a bald spot when just 4 months ago before i took it my hair was incredibly thick
     
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    db135 New Member My Regimen

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    Thanks. I dont want to take anything if i can avoid it. Heres a pic i took over 3 years ago. Its not very good. I furrowed my brow in this one, weirdly my hairline follows the top wrinkle in the middle before receding back. My hairline is quite low in the middle and incredibly dense. Im not denying i have experienced hairloss and the corners are receded but it has been like this a long long time. Only thing id say was my temple points whice were never big thinned and although still there are not nearly as visible. Basically my hair looks like this 3 years later
     

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    pegasus2 Senior Member

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    Fact: finasteride will never make your hair thinner. Your hair looks good. If you're comfortable with how it is then just be happy, and take pictures once a year to keep an eye on it. If you notice it starting to recede more or thin on top then get on finasteride.
     
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    pegasus i am literally living proof of finasteride thinning my hair to literally the point of no return - there are so many threads of people suffering from the same. just because it works for you doesn't mean it works for everyone bro.
    db sometimes just be happy with what you have because you never know what you could be taking for granted.try dermarolling and minoxidil for the temples would be my advice before committing to finasteride that's what i wish i done
     
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    Just because your hair thinned at the same time you were on finasteride does not mean it thinned because you were on finasteride. You are balding, and you probably became desperate enough to use the drug during a time in which your hair loss was accelerating.
     
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    lmao, yeah all the hair on the head has thinned and shed conveniently in the 4 months since taking finasteride. Nah i was just like the op where i wanted to maintain my temples, i had thicker hair than db for sure, but now its thin all over and ive lost an unbelievable amount of density. Thin hair was never an issue before finasteride (i had never even experienced any shed hair), only the temple recession. it has happened to other people too, albeit it is a very unusual reaction it can happen.
    you can believe me if you want i dont care but im just giving the guy a heads up as it can happen
     
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    So you noticed your temples receding, you got on finasteride, you continued to bald, and you blame the finasteride. Sounds legit. Instead of dropping treatment you should've switched to dutasteride. Obviously finasteride isn't strong enough for you, or your hair loss was thyroid related. Go see a dermatologist.
     
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    explain why the balding has slowed down massively since ive stopped then lol? some people dont react well to it man jesus it's a fact, have you heard of hyperandrogenicity? anyway f*** being impotent on dutasteride lmao
     
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    Explain the process by which finasteride made you lose hair? Hyperandrogenicity from Propecia is a myth. It increases testosterone levels slightly because less of it is being converted to DHT. It lowers DHT by nearly 70%. 10% of testosterone is normally converted to DHT, and DHT is up to ten times more potent than testosterone. In order for finasteride to raise testosterone enough for it to counteract the positive effect of lowering DHT, it would have to increase your testosterone levels so high that you would be Superman. Let's say your T was 1,000 at baseline. 10% of that, or 100ng/dL is converted to DHT. Finasteride reduces that by 70%, so then only 30ng/dL is converted to DHT. Since DHT is 10 times more potent than T, that reduction is equivalent to reducing T by 700ng/dL. So basically you're T levels would have to increase to ~1,700, which is off the charts, just to get back to your baseline androgenicity. Now how much higher would it have to go to actually accelerate your hair loss?. I find this highly unlikely.

    By the way, the risk of impotence from dutasteride is the same as finasteride.
     
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    https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...androgenism-after-stopping-finasteride.92041/
    https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...tern-baldness-after-trying-finasteride.92235/
    https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...ecia-shedding-made-me-near-enough-bald.91596/
    https://www.baldtruthtaIk.com/threads/22174-9-months-too-soon-to-quit-finasteride?p=224468
    https://www.baldtruthtaIk.com/threa...ammation-itchy-burning-tingling-thread/page18
    there are even doctors who confirm this phenomenon can happen

    ""When the effects of androgens in the body are lessened, e.g. through lowering DHT or by blockading hormone receptors systemically, the body seeks equilibrium through a process called upregulation. This can take the form of increased hormone production and/or increased tissue sensitivity to the remaining hormones."

    lol why do you care so much - putting so much effort into defending a drug that has extremely distorted success rates (which everyone knows).
     
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    And this all happened instantly for you the moment you popped your first finasteride pill, and increased your T levels to superhuman levels? You're delusional, and spouting broscience.
     
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    bro, the human body works in ways that both of our brains are too small to comprehend. actually even the best dermatologists don't know wtf is going on most of the time. exactly why you're on this website and putting loads of drugs in your body - there isn't any certainty of anything and no definitive answers in hairloss so chill out, we're all on the same side (unless you work for merck you bastard)
    who knows why it happened but it did, maybe not after the first pill but certainly after over 2 months using it it has fucked me
    rip my beautiful hair
     
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    You can believe that if you want, but you really should go see a dermatologist to see what's going on.
     

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