My Dutasteride Results after 18 Months

balu123

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Slartibartfast said:
Looks a damned site thicker no matter the colour. This is why I'm surprised that you're considering switching to EOD, I mean why tamper with a successful regime?

Costs and it may work that good anyway
 

Aplunk1

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Slartibartfast said:
Looks a damned site thicker no matter the colour. This is why I'm surprised that you're considering switching to EOD, I mean why tamper with a successful regime?

Hey Slarti,

glad to see you posting. Just real quick... you misspelled COLOR.

It's okay, though. :woot:
 

Slartibartfast

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balu123 said:
Slartibartfast said:
Looks a damned site thicker no matter the colour. This is why I'm surprised that you're considering switching to EOD, I mean why tamper with a successful regime?
Costs and it may work that good anyway
I suppose it could work as well for you, but then there's a chance it won't and that you'll lose some of your gains. When I changed from finasteride. to Avodart (back in early 2003!) I took it EOD for about 16 months, and while it was more effective than finasteride. I still continued to thin at the front - just at a slower rate. Which is why, in August '04, I changed to a full dose. Over 3.5 years on and at the very least I've maintained the same frontal density, perhaps even slightly improved it in some spots.

Just my experience.
 

metalheaddude

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Your hair just looks 10 times more healthy now your hair follicles are not being raped by DHT. What a difference!

Dogs3 how you doin man? Long time no see. How come your switching to dutasteride? Losing the battle?

Hope all is well :)
 

Dogs3

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whats up metalheaddude.

No actually I'm doing pretty well with finasteride, my hair has really improved since starting treatment.

But after reading a lot on dutasteride it seems like it may be approved soon enough for hair loss anyway, and i know im gonna take it down the line anyway, i decided to give it a shot as well right now, i figure the ealrier the better.

If finasteride is working well for me it stands to reason that by inhibiting more dht dutasteride will work even better.

In my estimate im a good responder to finasteride, not great, but certainly good. Im hoping maybe ill gte lucky and be a great responder to dutasteride, we'll see. The only thing that worries me is the cost, sides dont bother me, if i get them i'll quit. Im just tryng to figure out a good dosing schedule.

How about you, how you doing?
 

Andrea

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"But after reading a lot on dutasteride it seems like it may be approved soon enough for hair loss anyway..."

Do you know something about this?

Thanks
 

Dogs3

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well, on baldingblog.com there was a recent article saying that Glaxco is currently doing phase 3 FDA trials in Korea. They are conducting them in korea apparently because it is cheaper. Anyway, im not sure it really matters, there is enough evidence simply from phase II to show that dutasteride is more efficient than finasteride is. It maybe isnt a LOT better, but it is at least a little better than finasteride and id certainly better at blocking dht.
 

metalheaddude

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Im doing alright. My crown is holding up ok, but my hairline is struggling of late, especially the right side. It just has no density, I can see individial hairs now, its almost impossible to do a good hairstyle. I have to resort to pushing it all forward so i look like a geek.

Yeah i read baldingblog occasionaly as well, sometimes its informative and makes me laugh too. I read that dutasteride article as well and if i recall (although being more effective than finasteride) it increases scalp testosterone greatly something like 70% more than finasteride. This is not a problem but it appears that sensetive hairline follciles dont like this extra scalp testosterone, so people on dutasteride seem to loose there hairlines faster, but everything else stays good and thick, even better than finasteride. I would of been on dutasteride a year ago if it were not for this phenominon. But the jury is not out yet, im going to wait for the results of these Korea trials before deciding to switch. Right now, I cant risk anymore damage to my hairline without being 100% sure.
 

Dogs3

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well, i know that dutasteride messing with the hair line is reported by some users, but so is hairline issues with finasteride.. Some people believe that the studies were called off because dutasteride thinned peoples front and hair lines. However, this was not the case at all. Bryan Shelton posted a study directly from the results of the trials done by Glaxco. It was a great post and a great find, apparently he found is in the medical library near where he lives...
http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/...&threadid=65200&FTVAR_MSGDBTABLE=&STARTPAGE=2

scroll down and read what he posted, the actually study is posted on the next page i believe.

In summary, not only did dutasteride not hurt the hairline/front of the head, the results found were BETTER than those who took 5mg of finasteride. So its likely that if you see some thinning on dutasteride in the hairline, it would have happened anyway.

I take it for what it is, a more powerful blocker of type 2 dht than propecia.
 

Andrea

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The phase II enrolled only 416 patients, if we consider that some of them have taken placebo or very low doses of dutasteride it is clear how limited is this trial...
In the last 5 years the experiences of patients shows very differents results.
Now even Dr Alan Feller, one of the biggest support of Duta in the past, says that Avodart, in some cases, could cause hairloss...
The data, at this moment, are not complete.
 

metalheaddude

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Hmm thats a pretty interesting study. Thanks for the link dogs3! Well it always seemed like common sense to me that dutasteride was better than finasteride as it blocks both type 1 and type 2 reductabase. But could it really help to thicken things up more than finasteride if we made the switch? I guess anything is worth a try.

But I came across another interesting study that tends to back up the high scalp testosterone and hairline thing.

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=45164


So who knows, its all very confusing! :dunno:
 

Dogs3

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well Im just hoping im a good responder, ill update my story in a few months and let you know how it goes
 

Andrea

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If you are a good responder on finasteride I suggest to stay on it...
Dutas is another drug and it's not true that if you have succes with fina you certainly react well to dutasteride.
Just my opinion
 

Dogs3

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im not saying im going to react well for sure. But it stands to reason that by blocking more dht i may see beter results..ill trust fda trials (which showed increased success over finasteride) over some guys complaining on forums.
 
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