male pattern baldness

jfrank

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Is it normal for one to go from NW0 to NW3 in 3 months?? is it even possible??? if it happens, is regrowth right around the corner??

I am going through this. (caused by propecia) and it is getting worse.. i dont want to stop propecia untl the 6th month, but i'm afriad, the way things are going, i'll have complete frontal baldness..

PS: i am not exp any propecia side effects.. no increse in libido, no zits, no gyno, no anything... cept perhasps depression..
 

Bryan

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jfrank said:
Is it normal for one to go from NW0 to NW3 in 3 months?? is it even possible???

No, it's absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for that to happen. Wanna know why?? Because there's no such thing as a "Norwood 0"! :D

The Norwood scale begins at 1, my friend...

Bryan
 

arjun17

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The original hair of one's teens without any loss whatsoever (not even the mature hairline) is NW1. And, given your age (30's?) it's highly unlikely that you were a NW1 before you started Propecia. I have seen VERY few 30+ year olds (most sites say 4% of mature men are NW1, I'd say more like 1% based on my own observations) who have not receded AT ALL since they were 17. Recession can be so little that its difficult to tell one has receded even on close observation with hair pulled back. So you were very likely a NW2 or so before you started Propecia.
And yes , it is quite possible , although very uncommon, to go from NW1 to NW3 in 3 months (I know one guy who went from NW1 to almost NW5 in less than a year - the worst part is that he's just 18. But don't get scared by this - this case is an example of a rare, early and severe form of male pattern baldness which is always accompanied by strong family history of such baldness, often starts well before age 20 and usually progresses rapidly to NW7. You are VERY VERY unlikely to have this form of male pattern baldness.)
You have said in earlier posts that you saw no miniaturization at all at the area where you are receding - normal, thick hairs just fell out and nothing came to replace them. If this is ONLY male pattern baldness and nothing else, it is indeed very unusual , but not unthinkable. It is possible (as others on this site have also stated) , that the miniaturization of those temple follicles occurred so quickly that each follicle probably went through all of the shorter growth cycles in a day or less. But that's very unlikely. Has anybody on either side of the family lost their hairline so quickly at around your age? Now, because the loss is occurring at an male pattern baldness-prone area (temporal hairline) ,one of the problems causing this rapid loss is undoubtedly male pattern baldness. But male pattern baldness alone should not be making you lose your hair so fast, without even seeing any thinning in the meantime. It MAY be Telogen Effluvium (telogen effluvium) severely aggravating male pattern baldness . But remember, that if it is Telogen Effluvium, no matter how severe, the hair will grow back (well, whatever hair which has'nt succumbed to male pattern baldness while the Telogen Effluvium is going on, anyway)
Is the receding still continuing rapidly? Has'nt it slowed down atleast a little? Go to a good derm FAST, because you need a proper diagnosis, and if at all it is severe male pattern baldness (god forbid) the hair may never return. DON'T wait to lose more hair , because you don't know what is making you lose it - Telogen Effluvium in conjunction with "typical" male pattern baldness, or just plain severe male pattern baldness.
Go to the derm and find out fast.
Best of luck,
Arjun
 

Greg1

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jfrank, I cast my vote as well that you see a qualified derm about this. Hairloss can be accelerated but it's a good idea to find out what might be causing it.
 

jfrank

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well, first of all, i am not in my 30s.. i'm 26.... my hairline has not been affected at all this past march... so i still had my youthful hairline, be it NW0 or NW1.. I dont know... what i do know, is that i lost extreme denstity on my entire frontal area... thick hair to no hair.. and at the same time, my temples and hairline started to recede (thin) together... and i uost mention that i was a new d-thinner before that, hence hte reason for startinf propecia.

and I did see several derms two weeks after i noticed my heavy shedding... both said that i might have had a hit of Telogen Effluvium and accelerated male pattern baldness.. they also noticed that i had S.Dermititus. hiwever, they were unawre of what my hair looked like sveral weeks prior..

I had panic attacks, depression, stress, and i have ADD.. so i am sure that contruibuted to my hairloss..

recession has slowed down.. i am not losing as much hair as i used to in front... my mom checked out my temples, and saw a garden of new hairs poking out.. she told my thtey didnt look like vellus (she's a pathologist), but who know.. we'll see

i also have no exp any regrowth in front... it could have been Telogen Effluvium + agressive male pattern baldness triggered by propecia..
 

jfrank

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i'm finishing my 14th week on propecia.. looking forward to the 5th month... the first 3 were HORRIBLE.. however, it appears some of the hairs on my crown are thickening, but i'm not sure.. my hairline looks like sh*t... worse than ever.. when i look at my frontal at a certain angle, i can see my shiny scalp reflecting light.. and that freaks me out, since that part used to be the thickest. (just 3 months ago)

i have tons of colorless hairs growing all over my hairline.. i am scared they are vellus... (at this point, i cant distinguish)

i hope to go back to my pre-propecia days... at this point, it would have to be a miracle, since my hairline has gotten so bad.. however, the way i see it, it already was a miracle that i got bad so fast in the first place, so i have hope..

minoxidil/propecia/folligen/nizoral
 
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