male pattern baldness without genetic inheritance possible?

[chewbaca]

Can a high amount of DHT , in other words hormonal imbalance can cause male pattern baldness? IF body malfunctioning or Disease can cause Hair loss (Telogen Effluvium), can this theory without genetic inheritance be possible?

Is this the reason why some people have max results from propecia or some with no family history of balding suffer from male pattern baldness?

If this is the case, male pattern baldness should be classified as a disease.

 

[hairschmair]

"an impairment of health or a condition of abnormal functioning "

Not a disease since it's purely cosmetic and since it affects 90% of the population, it's not abnormal.

 

[wangho75]

I get what you're trying to ask chewbaca and it makes perfect sense than in some individuals DHT is amplified for some reson regardless of male pattern baldness. That's interesting, but it almost seems 1 in the same. I'll throw this at you though, the only people in my family to go bald is my father and my mother's brother. My 2 grandfathers had great thick heads of hair into their 80's and my dad's 2 brothers are maybe better than a Norwood 1. Other male cousins have full heads of hair. Slick bald or Norwood 6,7 I haven't seen in the family, just severe diffusion in my dad and uncle's case. The kicker is that im an excellent responder so far at 3 mos and I see a potential 300% improvement .

 

[chewbaca]

I get what you're trying to ask chewbaca and it makes perfect sense than in some individuals DHT is amplified for some reson regardless of male pattern baldness. That's interesting, but it almost seems 1 in the same. I'll throw this at you though, the only people in my family to go bald is my father and my mother's brother. My 2 grandfathers had great thick heads of hair into their 80's and my dad's 2 brothers are maybe better than a Norwood 1. Other male cousins have full heads of hair. Slick bald or Norwood 6,7 I haven't seen in the family, just severe diffusion in my dad and uncle's case. The kicker is that im an excellent responder so far at 3 mos and I see a potential 300% improvement .

.....Which is what i trying to say. Those good responders seem to be the ones having minimal male pattern baldness history in their family tree. Personally i know of some people who had a strong genetic history in their family who never reponded to propecia. And also i know of people who had been bald for 10 yeas and took propecia to have their all hair return. S i guess for this people their hair follicles are not dead and nort pre-destined to be dead just their growth being stumped by excess DHT.

So i think male pattern baldness should be the term to be used for those who are destined to go bald.

 

[chewbaca]

"an impairment of health or a condition of abnormal functioning "

Not a disease since it's purely cosmetic and since it affects 90% of the population, it's not abnormal.

Normal hair growth should be normal functioning. male pattern baldness is not.

 

[wangho75]

I get what you're trying to ask chewbaca and it makes perfect sense than in some individuals DHT is amplified for some reson regardless of male pattern baldness. That's interesting, but it almost seems 1 in the same. I'll throw this at you though, the only people in my family to go bald is my father and my mother's brother. My 2 grandfathers had great thick heads of hair into their 80's and my dad's 2 brothers are maybe better than a Norwood 1. Other male cousins have full heads of hair. Slick bald or Norwood 6,7 I haven't seen in the family, just severe diffusion in my dad and uncle's case. The kicker is that im an excellent responder so far at 3 mos and I see a potential 300% improvement .

.....Which is what i trying to say. Those good responders seem to be the ones having minimal male pattern baldness history in their family tree. Personally i know of some people who had a strong genetic history in their family who never reponded to propecia. And also i know of people who had been bald for 10 yeas and took propecia to have their all hair return. S i guess for this people their hair follicles are not dead and nort pre-destined to be dead just their growth being stumped by excess DHT.

So i think male pattern baldness should be the term to be used for those who are destined to go bald.

What has been the blueprint for male pattern baldness for the last few decades though? I know a new study has revealed an excess of one gene which causes male pattern baldness has been revealed, but who is to say if that study is correct? Who is to say the few studies and revelations before that are correct, either? Maybe finasteride is not for male pattern baldness, but for an excess of DHT in the scalp.

There is something going on between the non-responders and responders, but no one knows for sure, which is frustrating. I like your outside of the box thinking on this, though, and I think there may be some truth to what you say.

 

[wangho75]

"an impairment of health or a condition of abnormal functioning "

Not a disease since it's purely cosmetic and since it affects 90% of the population, it's not abnormal.

Elephantisis is cosmetic, but I'd sure as hell be trying to get rid of it. Baldness is just a very wide-spread disease. It's AIDS for the hair. Bald people just don't have the 'immune system' to block that DHT

 

[20sometingtoo]

"an impairment of health or a condition of abnormal functioning "

Not a disease since it's purely cosmetic and since it affects 90% of the population, it's not abnormal.

Normal hair growth should be normal functioning. male pattern baldness is not.

What if those people with the full-heads-o'-hair are the abnormal ones. What if we are the ones well ahead of the curve in terms of our species evolutionary process? Hmmm....

"Damn dirty apes"

But really, who says having a full head of hair is normal? If, all of a sudden, people started losing their hair in greater numbers than was ever noted in history, then generations from now we'd be looking at pictures of our ancestors, screaming "Ew, Great-grandaddy Bob had hair!"

 

[The Gardener]

You would have thought that natural selection would have weeded us out centuries ago.

Evolution is brutal, some lizard family has a slight alteration in it's camouflage color and boom its gone.

Us male pattern baldness people must have SOMETHING going for us, because most of the surviving male stock suffer from it to some degree.

My conclusion is that male pattern baldness people are better in bed. Why? Because we TRY harder!... to make up for our male pattern baldness.

What do you think of THAT theory, Chewbaca! I'm going to expound on this, steal your fire, and win Bismarck's "Hair Dot Medal" at his next ceremony!

 

[chewbaca]

I get what you're trying to ask chewbaca and it makes perfect sense than in some individuals DHT is amplified for some reson regardless of male pattern baldness. That's interesting, but it almost seems 1 in the same. I'll throw this at you though, the only people in my family to go bald is my father and my mother's brother. My 2 grandfathers had great thick heads of hair into their 80's and my dad's 2 brothers are maybe better than a Norwood 1. Other male cousins have full heads of hair. Slick bald or Norwood 6,7 I haven't seen in the family, just severe diffusion in my dad and uncle's case. The kicker is that im an excellent responder so far at 3 mos and I see a potential 300% improvement .

.....Which is what i trying to say. Those good responders seem to be the ones having minimal male pattern baldness history in their family tree. Personally i know of some people who had a strong genetic history in their family who never reponded to propecia. And also i know of people who had been bald for 10 yeas and took propecia to have their all hair return. S i guess for this people their hair follicles are not dead and nort pre-destined to be dead just their growth being stumped by excess DHT.

So i think male pattern baldness should be the term to be used for those who are destined to go bald.

What has been the blueprint for male pattern baldness for the last few decades though? I know a new study has revealed an excess of one gene which causes male pattern baldness has been revealed, but who is to say if that study is correct? Who is to say the few studies and revelations before that are correct, either? Maybe finasteride is not for male pattern baldness, but for an excess of DHT in the scalp.

There is something going on between the non-responders and responders, but no one knows for sure, which is frustrating. I like your outside of the box thinking on this, though, and I think there may be some truth to what you say.

let's compare acne with male pattern baldness> None is saying acne can be inherited. But why does some people have a sever acne problem?

Well among the responders and non responders, THis is my theory. challenge me

Non responders may be born to parents who were in their late stages of male pattern baldness, in other words the child got the genes from the parent makeup at the stage of fertlisation. These people could be predestined to be hairless. This is why chldren born to parents who are old suffer from various illness. If u take a child born to teen parents, the child will most probably be healthy. As i say the output depends on the quality of the machines in a factory. If they are old and rusty, the output product will not be good.

i will do a poll on this