male pattern baldness and getting a tan

[Hope4hairRedux]

Hi. I have a few basic questions.

I have observed that people with a darker skin color generally go bald a lot better. Black people especially. Its white guys (me - and i am assuming most people on this website, seeing as it is generally white guys that have it worst) who have the real problem - or people who are on the whiter side. I think this is a fairly accepted principle.

So to go on further, it seems to be the white guys, who are white white, who fair worse of. The bald guys that I see around that don't seem to pull it of so well are generally older guys, nw5s, who have a horse ring, but have virtually no sun on their faces, really white/pale looking. I see loads of guys in suits like this..

So then I think well; perhaps a saving grace for white guys going bald is the possibility to work on a good looking tan, a darker complexion on the face and head?? The way I am handling male pattern baldness is literally by just accepting and surrendering to it, and just tying to go along with it and adapt. I don't think its that bigger of a deal, especially if you just work on other traits to make up for your male pattern baldness. Whilst at the same time I want to go into more natural ideas of making what I have more attractive, ie tanning.

So anyway, to cut to the chase, how easy is it to tan on ones head? Is the skin on the scalp similar to the rest of our bodies and face? Or is it a lot more sensitive?

I am sure I have seen in real life and in the media a fair few white guys who had a decent looking tan over their faces and heads, being bald or balding, and they actually looked really good. Perhaps it depends on how easy you tan in the first place. I am fairly luck in that respect, I have dark hair and olive skin, my skin tans pretty well in the sun. I reckon there may be an issue with skin cancer perhaps, with excessive sun on the scalp? I guess if you attempted to tan your scalp you would want to slowly darken it, not try and rush it but slowly get your scalp/head to adjust to the sunlight.

So my idea is that tanning yourself might be a really good way to lessen the unpleasant traits of going bald, especially of you are white. What do people think?

 

[Mens Rea]

absolutely agree ive been using sunbeds a bit lately. not the best long term plan and tbh the colour doesnt seem to maintain at all, but i can tell you a bit of colour makes me look so much better, healthier and seems to task any visual emphasis away from my thinning hair

 

[Thinning Sucks]

Same question! My scalp is as white as my azz....how to tan without peeling and going right back to white as ghost? How do you guys who shave get your scalp to tan? The couvre I use just blocks any UV.

 

[Hope4hairRedux]

Perhaps a real sun tan lasts longer??

I have heard there are more health issues regarding sun beds. Whilst as you say, a sun bed helps, I think perhaps for a more long term plan a more natural approach to tanning would be something to look into. The basic principle I work on is that to be healthy, you want to live as naturally as possible. The German physician Christoph Welhelm Hufeland stated that;

'The more a man follows nature, and is obedient to her laws, the longer he will live; the farther he deviates from these, the shorter will be his existence.'

I feel this ties in to male pattern baldness. I think male pattern baldness is related to living 'unnaturally' - what it means to live naturally is open to discussion, but basically to live a more simple life, one more harmonious with nature. I have no stats to hand, but I think its fairly accepted that in centuries past, there wasn't such a high incidence of balding. I believe generations of living far from our natural origins, with more and more chemicals in our environment and diet, technology and the modern living are massive factors, which may affect our genes and so on. For example, now in China, where more men are starting to eat red meat, apparently now there is a higher incidence of balding. How reliable these stats are I don't know.

Anyway, that was a little off-topic. But what I'm saying is that I think ideally you really want to be getting a real tan - probably more healthy and probably lasts for longer. I live in England, so long spells of hot weather are rare, and even 'hot' over here isn't really enough to create more than a slight tan.

So you find that when you do get a tan, your scalp actually becomes browner? You say you are thinning, not receding? Perhaps the thinning hair still 'shields' the scalp from being affected.

 

[Hope4hairRedux]

Thinning Sucks -so if you try tan it you scalp peels and stuff?

Where about in the world do you live? How much sun do you get on it? What color is your hair and how dark are you?

I reckon that it would probably take a while. I think eventually the sun would begin to go deeper into your pigmentation and after a few years you scalp would get darker.

I just dread having that 50 something office worker look, nw5, white as a ghost. It just looks so off-putting. Sorry to any of you that may be in this position. Its probably worse because I feel there is a permeable chance I could look like that.

Sometimes I think that the whole 'balding isn't that bad' is just false hope. Perhaps it is. Sigh.

 

[barcafan]

Perhaps a real sun tan lasts longer??

I have heard there are more health issues regarding sun beds. Whilst as you say, a sun bed helps, I think perhaps for a more long term plan a more natural approach to tanning would be something to look into. The basic principle I work on is that to be healthy, you want to live as naturally as possible. The German physician Christoph Welhelm Hufeland stated that;

'The more a man follows nature, and is obedient to her laws, the longer he will live; the farther he deviates from these, the shorter will be his existence.'

I feel this ties in to male pattern baldness. I think male pattern baldness is related to living 'unnaturally' - what it means to live naturally is open to discussion, but basically to live a more simple life, one more harmonious with nature. I have no stats to hand, but I think its fairly accepted that in centuries past, there wasn't such a high incidence of balding. I believe generations of living far from our natural origins, with more and more chemicals in our environment and diet, technology and the modern living are massive factors, which may affect our genes and so on. For example, now in China, where more men are starting to eat red meat, apparently now there is a higher incidence of balding. How reliable these stats are I don't know.

Anyway, that was a little off-topic. But what I'm saying is that I think ideally you really want to be getting a real tan - probably more healthy and probably lasts for longer. I live in England, so long spells of hot weather are rare, and even 'hot' over here isn't really enough to create more than a slight tan.

So you find that when you do get a tan, your scalp actually becomes browner? You say you are thinning, not receding? Perhaps the thinning hair still 'shields' the scalp from being affected.

Wishful thinking,man. How come all the drug addicts and alcoholic retards all have great hair? Are they living naturally?

 

[Hope4hairRedux]

Barcafan - well first of, that's a massive generalization. You cant just say that all drug addicts and alcoholic tramps have great hair.

However lets say they do. I think that actually, ironically, they could in some ways be perceived as having a more natural lifestyle. Aside from the obvious chemicals they put in their body, they have the sun on them all the time, and fresh air. They are mostly always outside. They do not over-indulge in anything as they don't have the money to. They are always thin. They probably get quite a lot of exercise walking about the whole day. And they don't overeat. So you could say that they do, in a way, live naturally compared to some of us who are gluttonous and overindulge and are further from a more 'natural' lifestyle.

Anyway, that whole tramp argument is interesting. I cant remember the last bald tramp I saw. I heard some theory a while back suggesting that baldness is due to cutting one's hair to short, and this then means that some chemical doesn't properly leave the scalp thus killing their hair. Tramps also rarely wash their hair as well as not cutting it. So I guess tramps do have a more 'simple' and perhaps 'natural' life to the average westerner. We shampoo our hair regularly, get it cut. Have showers daily. Overindulge in food. So its interesting.

I have a theory that going bald young like 20 is to do with excess protein/testosterone in the diet, which then hand in hand with a teenagers up and down hormones triggers male pattern baldness. To be honest, there are so many different theories its hard to start. But doesn't it make sense to suggest that baldness is more likely to come about when your body is more out of balance, when there are many chemicals in your environment and diet? Its a basic theory but sometimes simple and basic does best to explain things. I think if I had grown up in a more simple/natural way then perhaps I would not be balding. But then I also think that some people just go bald, and there isn't much you can do about it.

Anyway the original point of this thread was to find out about tanning your bald/balding head, and seeing whether it makes a difference or not.

 

[barcafan]

it makes a difference. If you're able to tan and not turn red, you'll look better.

 

[Thinning Sucks]

Thinning Sucks -so if you try tan it you scalp peels and stuff?

Where about in the world do you live? How much sun do you get on it? What color is your hair and how dark are you?

I reckon that it would probably take a while. I think eventually the sun would begin to go deeper into your pigmentation and after a few years you scalp would get darker.

I just dread having that 50 something office worker look, nw5, white as a ghost. It just looks so off-putting. Sorry to any of you that may be in this position. Its probably worse because I feel there is a permeable chance I could look like that.

Sometimes I think that the whole 'balding isn't that bad' is just false hope. Perhaps it is. Sigh.

Yes, the scalp burns peels and then goes back to white. Dark hair, med complexion.