LLLT device

Stefanovic · May 28, 2014

Could anyone recommend me a good and strong LLLT device. I checked out the OMG website but I'm not a technical person and don't understand anything of it and apart from that it's hard to seperate the haox from the good stuff.

I also noticed greying people ( like me) report darkening of their greying hair. After how much time can you expect that effect? Thank u so much.

Dark Link · May 28, 2014

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NU6wFHjNKk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3oTKY3T1DY

As you can just 1 year later this dude is shaving his head. I guess the Igrow lllt device didn't work?

The FDA regulations on devices are very lenient. I'm guessing these devices aren't a long-term solution. That's just my opinion.

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As long as we are talking about the guy in those videos... He is most definitely a shill for Igrow LLLT. He gives them away for free in his videos... Definitely Igrow is funding him giving the product positive reviews. It's no coincidence this guy comes out with a bull**** post finasteride syndrome youtube video to scare people. This is a great example of someone making up horror stories to boost their product's sales.

hellouser · May 28, 2014

Dark Link said:
The FDA regulations on devices are very lenient. I'm guessing these devices aren't a long-term solution. That's just my opinion.

It's not a solution for any term. LLLT simply doesn't work. It's snake oil.

ThatHairStruggle · May 28, 2014

LLLT is quite simply a waste of money. When I heard about laser combs and helmets I spent hours researching the devices and the technology behind them, because they're all soo much damn money. The basic bottom line is that red lasers do marginally help hair growth for a very small amount of people. I don't understand the science behind it but it does work to varying degrees for a select few people. The sad thing is that you're basically paying hundreds of dollars for red lasers, the exact same tech that's in a bar code scanner, or a light up keychain.
So I'd say buy some red laser pointers and rig them to a bike helmet if you're really set on LLLT. Just get low level (read: weak) lasers so you don't burn your hair/scalp.

Dark Link · May 28, 2014

ThatHairStruggle said:
Just get low level (read: weak) lasers so you don't burn your hair/scalp.

I'll assume this is a joke...

ThatHairStruggle · May 28, 2014

Dark Link said:
I'll assume this is a joke...

The last line of my post is, yeah. lol
The rest is legitimately just my limited understanding of the technology; feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Dark Link · May 28, 2014

Hairchaser, as much as I want to believe that a stupid laser can salvage hair, you are coming off as a shill and a red flag is coming off in my head to disbelieve everything you say based on the way you present it. Now if Notcoolanymore, hellouser, or someone with credibility starts praising that the igrow works then I might be convinced.

Dark Link · May 28, 2014

Maybe you're right. But I read so many different reviews that the evidence is contradictory. How the Igrow works and the rest of them don't. And how the shamu one is the way to go or whatever fish tale you bring to the table. I'm just not buying it. That's a lot of mula to be scammed out of.

Stefanovic · May 29, 2014

how about overmachogrande's device? Isn't it just about the amount and strength of the dioded

Stefanovic · May 29, 2014

Please only serious reactions. If you say it's bull****, then tell me why it's even on pubmed ( pretty recent studies). I suppose it depends on the kind of diodes and strength used.

Dark Link · May 29, 2014

I really wish I had $1,000 to throw away to prove that this is bull****. Has anyone with any credibility ever tried it? Spencer Kobren doubts its efficacy, and so do most veterans. Could be that we are stubborn old farts that are trying to keep the new out. I think it's a fad that's been going on since the 70's that comes and goes. With post finasteride syndrome scaring everyone off of finasteride some Company's got some clever marketing and paid off the FDA and came out with an easy cheap inexpensive scam to con men out of their money. But I haven't tried it myself so I can't personally say I know it doesn't work. But I know scam when I see one, and this sure smells like a ****ty poopfest scam to me.

Dark Link · May 29, 2014

:agree:

Stefanovic · May 29, 2014

It doesn't seem like you have knowledge of it, no experience as well. There's a difference in strength, studies on pubmed,.....It would be better to elaborate on it with people giving real reviews and comments.

Dark Link · May 29, 2014

Stefanovic said:
It doesn't seem like you have knowledge of it, no experience as well. There's a difference in strength, studies on pubmed,.....It would be better to elaborate on it with people giving real reviews and comments.

link please

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19466643

Conclusion: Larger, longer-term placebo-controlled studies are needed to confirm these findings, and demonstrate statistical significance, or refute them altogether.

This didn't seem too promising to me. Simply not worth the money.

Stefanovic · May 29, 2014

a 2014 Update:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23970445

Dark Link · May 29, 2014

Stefanovic said:
a 2014 Update:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23970445

Well that's just great if you are a mouse or are a chemo patient. I see nothing about male pattern baldness...

I am far from impressed by this study. I will need to see something better before I go forking over $1,000 for a laser pointer.

2bald2young · May 29, 2014

hellouser said:
It's not a solution for any term. LLLT simply doesn't work. It's snake oil.

The new generation comes, changing snake oil with snake machines.

Dark Link · May 29, 2014

I just hate how people try to take advantage of us vulnerable balding men. You become so desperate for something like this to work that you spend the money in hope that it does only to yield dissapointing results. Anyone out there try this? Or is there a good thread to read up on this crap?

bhobho · May 30, 2014

Hello guys, i'm an italian member. I have lurking on this forum (2y2r's thread about dermaroller). I'm also a member of an italian forum. We have some attestation about LLLT (with some nice pics). If you want i'll post the link. I have to say that i am a little bit sceptical about this stuff and i think that the helmet is too expensive to buy it just for try... but the pics are all promising (but one,,,)

On the italian forum i have the same nickname, so you'll get that i don't sell this helmet. I have no interest. So if you want belive in pics good, if you don't want...good anyway

Have a nice day

Dark Link · May 30, 2014

Yeah show the pics. Must analyze.

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