List of the strongest topical antiandrogens

[Hoppi]

My backup plan is just to combine 3 potent topical antiandrogens and fingers crossed that should be the lot. I don't know which to choose though so I was wondering which three people consider as the top ones?

I was considering Eucapil, spironolactone and...... miconazole, flutamide or ketoconazole. Or maaayyybe Revivogen but it seems quite weak.

I am concerned about keto and flut's possible health effects, and consider RU a bit too pricey, but you guys can put it in your top choices if you want

Peace!

Hoppi! ^_^

 

[MrBastard]

You dont want RU cus of price and you are considering Eucapil?

My top 3 whould be:
- RU. The strongest one you get atm that you know are "safe". Cheap if you see the cost per day instead of the total for first time buy
- CB0301. Extremely good clinical trials so far. Only need once a week/4 times per 3 week aplying. Unknown price...
- spironolactone. Easy and cheap. I feel it halted shedding for me

 

[Bryan]

I was considering Eucapil, spironolactone and...... miconazole, flutamide or ketoconazole. Or maaayyybe Revivogen but it seems quite weak.

What makes you think miconazole is an antiandrogen?

 

[TheGrayMan2001]

I was considering Eucapil, spironolactone and...... miconazole, flutamide or ketoconazole. Or maaayyybe Revivogen but it seems quite weak.

What makes you think miconazole is an antiandrogen?

Is that where all those people are putting vagina cream on their head? Made me laugh.

 

[Hoppi]

You dont want RU cus of price and you are considering Eucapil?

My top 3 whould be:
- RU. The strongest one you get atm that you know are "safe". Cheap if you see the cost per day instead of the total for first time buy
- CB0301. Extremely good clinical trials so far. Only need once a week/4 times per 3 week aplying. Unknown price...
- spironolactone. Easy and cheap. I feel it halted shedding for me

haha yeah I know it's a bit weird that I cast aside RU and still am looking at Eucapil! You have to admit it's a much smaller investment though!

Erm, yeah I guess I just need something strong and cheap to fill that third position. I take it all these newer ones are quite pricey?

And finfighter - thanks man! Is there anything you'd recommend for that third place for me? I reckon with 3 strong ones, the regimen would be killer

It's only a backup plan but... that makes it even MORE essential that it works!!

 

[jh]

Out of curiosity, why do you think revivogen is "quite weak?"

 

[Hoppi]

Out of curiosity, why do you think revivogen is "quite weak?"

I dunno, it just doesn't seem to get the results that spironolactone, Eucapil, flutamide, RU, keto, or many others do. Plus it's more expensive than some of them to boot! lol

 

[anxious1]

hoppi, i thought u already had the 'cure', and all u had to do was heal ur liver.?

is this not working for u?

 

[el_duterino]

you can strike flutamide out of the list, very strong side effects (serum half life 7 hours) and potential liver damage on top of that.

fluridil is very weak unless you use alot of it. but it gets very expensive and won't really thicken your hair back to normal

RU is the best by far, considering the price ($2 to $4 a day), serum half life of 1 hour for low side effects and potency

 

[keepinthehair]

Duterino,

I read in another post you are using Everclear as the 70% ethanol. Is this the 195 proof or 151 ? I live in California where everything is illegal except pot.

I believe the 151 proof has 25% water, do you think that is too much for RU? Has anyone tried rubbing pot in their scalp? It is easier to get than RU or Everclear.

 

[CCS]

Do RU if you have money, or spironolactone if not much money, or nizoral if really not much money.

That CB stuff should be synergistic with these.

Revivogen is synergistic with all three of these.

 

[Ende]

(spironolactone), RU and CB aren't compatible. They would compete for the androgen receptors. RU and CB are very potent anti-androgens, but CB is superior because it metabolizes to a safe compound, which means no systemic side effects if you overdose, unlike RU.

 

[keepinthehair]

Duterino,

I read in another post you are using Everclear as the 70% ethanol. Is this the 195 proof or 151 ? I live in California where everything is illegal except pot.

I believe the 151 proof has 25% water, do you think that is too much for RU? Has anyone tried rubbing pot in their scalp? It is easier to get than RU or Everclear.

Are you being serious?

Yes, totally serious. Pot cures all diseases, just ask any hippie from calfornia. :mrgreen:
It is easier for me to go to an MD in Santa Monica and claim "medical marijuanna" will bring back my hair for $40. :whistle: than it is to get a fukin bottle of Everclear. Go figure.

 

[jh]

Out of curiosity, why do you think revivogen is "quite weak?"

I dunno, it just doesn't seem to get the results that spironolactone, Eucapil, flutamide, RU, keto, or many others do. Plus it's more expensive than some of them to boot! lol

I often see "Revivogen doesn't get results" or "I have yet to see one success story that can be attributed to revivogen." You added that "it's quite weak." You "dunno" why, it "just doesn't seem to get the results" other treatments do.

Revivogen gets beat up pretty bad on here lately, but based on what?

Just last week, a long term finasteride user posted his experience about switching to revivogen and after a year, continues to maintain. No one seemed to notice.

Micheal Barry, a respected long-time poster, tested revivogen as well as some other topicals on his body hair. He said nothing he tested reduced body hair as dramatically as revivogen.

Admin posted a study conducted by an independent research lab that tested revivogen on reconstructed human epidermis. The lab found revivogen to be about as effective as topical dutasteride.

Ultimately, you have to take a leap of faith to start any treatment. Hell, even the most reliable treatment, finasteride, still has a 20% non-success rate; for minoxidil it's about 45%. el_duterino provided good reasons why to skip flut and fluridil. For whatever reason, though, the pendulum of public opinion (on here anyway) will continue to swing back and forth on a number of alternative treatments for no good reason.

 

[Bryan]

Good post, jh!

 

[G k]

Anyone here plan on trying this CB stuff? Isn't it available here:

http://www.koutingchina.com/

I think I would like to try it.

 

[G k]

Anyone here plan on trying this CB stuff? Isn't it available here:

http://www.koutingchina.com/

I think I would like to try it.

I would like to also, yes you can buy it there, keep us updated...

I've read the info you have on it... But do you have any info in terms of costs and application? You only apply it a couple times a week right? What kind of vehicle is used, storage, etc....


Pardon me if any of this has been covered in another thread.

 

[G k]

It's very exspensive right now, because koutingchina is the only lab that I know of that sells it, so they have a monopoly on it, you would have to email them for prices. The vehicle would probably be similar to RU, check the thread ''share your experience with RU58841'' for information on vehicles.


I'm not sure when you looked at my guide but I did an update on CB with the results of the clinical trials, take a look at it.[/quote]

Yeah I checked it out. Seems like what we are all looking for. I just wish it were more accessible. I have the cash...Just need the instructions. I guess it would be the same as RU in terms of developping a vehicle? Are people just adding the RU to minoxidil 2% in 2 week batches now and that is a sufficient vehicle?

Meanwhile if anyone is interested, I am successfully maintaining my hair with spironolactone, keto cream, minoxidil 5%, and nizoral shampoo. Got some retinoid but it makes my skin peel :/

 

[G k]

Ill drop kouting an email soon.

 

[abovedagame]

It's very exspensive right now, because koutingchina is the only lab that I know of that sells it, so they have a monopoly on it, you would have to email them for prices. The vehicle would probably be similar to RU, check the thread ''share your experience with RU58841'' for information on vehicles.


I'm not sure when you looked at my guide but I did an update on CB with the results of the clinical trials, take a look at it.

Yeah I checked it out. Seems like what we are all looking for. I just wish it were more accessible. I have the cash...Just need the instructions. I guess it would be the same as RU in terms of developping a vehicle? Are people just adding the RU to minoxidil 2% in 2 week batches now and that is a sufficient vehicle?

Meanwhile if anyone is interested, I am successfully maintaining my hair with spironolactone, keto cream, minoxidil 5%, and nizoral shampoo. Got some retinoid but it makes my skin peel :/[/quote]

how do you go about applying two creams at once (spironolactone and keto?)