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DarkVctry

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Okay everybody after reading countless posts about how horrible Revivogen is, I decided to shell out the cash and buy some bottles for myself. Now you may ask yourself "why on earth would you want to do this" Let me explain:

1st) I am a believer and user of laser therapy, yet I find people want to treat it like the plague and will do everything in their power to "hush you" if you even mention it.

2nd) I use a product called Crinagen in my regime and guess what...it works ! Oh let me just say that the Crinagen formula and Reviogen formula are very similar.

So lets explain my story, I am a contractor and sometimes travel oversea's to hostile places. Infact as I am righting this on a satellite internet connection I hear out-going artillery rounds. So let me break it down to you, I decided on this tour to not bring my laser helmet, and not bring my Crinagen. I have long hair now...so guess what I noticed ? ALOT of shedding, thinning, just a disaster I am talking like over 200+ hairs a day. I could literally run my hands through my hair and every single time have 5 hairs come out with it. You want to talk about depressing and stress ? I even had a co-worker joke about it, and say "we used to have hardwood floors but your falling hair is going to make us a rug". So the mistake I made was thinking I could coast by for a few months with doing nothing.

So what did I do...I called my buddy and had him ship my helmet out to me (yep i'll laser while in my tent), then I waited for weeks for my spironolactone and crinagen to come in. Once it all arrived my shedding slowed down dramatically, from 200+ hairs a day down to 100, then after a few more days it was less than 30 a day. (people that are not balding can still shed over 100 a day so don't freak out)

Now while waiting on the Crinagen I decided to re-activate this account and wanted to do some research. I was always curious about Revivogen but just like LLLT I noticed people wanted to keep it hush hush. So let me start to DEBUNK these rumors now.

Rumor) "Revivogen will stain your pillows"
Fact) When ive been using it I havent seen one stain (but then again I follow instructions)

Rumor) "Revivogen smells horrible like a skunk"
Fact) So far ive used it and the smell is not bad at all, it sorta smells like some hairspray or some styling moose or something. Basically it smells like typical beauty products chicks put in their hair. It is a strong scent but not a bad scent.

Rumor) "When I used Revivogen it made my hairloss even worst !"
Fact) Okay lets get real folks, if anything most of these products will do "nothing" rather than harm you. I bet I could sell droplets of pure water and guys would claim the same thing...thats just a silly rumor.

Rumor) "I can't style my hair when I use Revivogen"
Fact) Again I have used all sorts of hair styles and Revivogen had no negative effect on it, also for you users wondering about spironolactone cream, I use spironolactone cream too and I can style my hair just fine with both products.

Okay enough about me debunking these silly rumors spreading across the net. If I have too ill even use my Iphone to record me actually spraying the stuff on me...no stains ! Keep in mind I am doing a review on the Scalp Therapy Only, I am not interested in the shampoo/conditioner so don't even ask. This is for the Scalp Therapy which runs at about $33 a month. I decided to stop the Crinagen and just use the Revivogen so I can find out if we have debby downers trolls or real people. So far ive been using Revivogen for a week now and here is what I can tell you.

Shedding is still less than 30 hairs a day, smells just fine, no pillow case stains, and my hair styles pretty well. So there you have it, a real person who is reviewing a product he actually trys. Here is how I usually do my day. Wake up in the morning and apply either spironolactone or azaliac acid to the hairline (I alternate between the 2) Then I head off to do my 12 hour day. Once the day is done (its dirty out here) I take a shower with my keto shampoo (I use the Lipogaine BIG 3 version since it doesnt dry me out like Regenpure does) Once im done shampooing my hair i use a typical conditioner on it (I have long curly hair i can put in a pony tail now) Once im finished conditioning I pat it with a towel and run a comb through it. Now its time to apply Revivogen. I will do about 10 to 15 sprays all around the top and front part of my scalp. Then I will massage it into my scalp for a few seconds. Once im done massaging it in, I take the comb and style it as needed. Then I go back to my bunk and read a book untill I am ready for sleep. If it is my "laser day" I will read a book while lasing. Upon waking I repeat the same procedure.

Now let me start by saying my 200+ shedding that freaked me out could of been something else (again I'm no scientist) I must also say I bought this biosilk hairproduct and some keratin spray product called "Chi" and apparently this product helps prevent breakage for long hair, chicks use it. So could it be maybe I am not going bald at all and just so happens the anti-breaking products are working ? See the shower water we use here in Afghanistan is literally bleach/chlorine water, its hard on the skin. So again Im not going to hide all the other hidden factors...but take what you will out of this review. I shall further answer anybodies questions if anybody has any. The main point of this post was to de-bunk some of those silly rumors ive heard in the past.
 

Jacob

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Just because it doesn't stain for you...your current bottle doesn't stink...your hairloss isn't getting worse....you can style your hair with it...doesn't mean all the others who I guess you're calling liars, didn't have those problems/complaints with the product. Between all that and bumping up old Revivogen threads w/out mentioning you already ordered the stuff... :shock: And yet...what you said above doesn't add up. You said you used Crinagen and loved it..even ordered more while in a combat zone(I guess. Btw..I just heard some shots out back..hunters though). Started using it again and spironolactone and a LLLT helmet and things were getting better. Then you jump to debunking the silly Revivogen rumors even though you were using Crinagen..not Revivogen. You researched Revivogen while waiting for- Crinagen. Nowhere did you say you were using Revivogen between the Crinagen or anything.

How about the silly rumor that Revivogen used to brag about some unique liposomal delivery system but after some of us started asking questions(such as- what ingredient(s) exactly make up the liposomes- they couldn't answer that btw) they took that information off their website etc? Or that when asked why they never update the product(I wonder about this with many products/companies) with all the new stuff out there they could add or even replace current ingreds with- I was told there's no need to change the product, it works that good! And yet about half a year later they updated it..with I think- caffeine.

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And I see you even even bumped up a thread where I brought up the silly little rumor that Revivogen took off the liposomal talk- had some strange excuse for doing so: http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interac...en-Seems-to-be-Working-for-my-Hair-Loss/page2

But you even stated there that Crinagen is almost the exact same thing only cheaper. So I'm very confused. Why even bother changing if Crinagen works just fine? But again...where you fit in your Revivogen use above is..puzzling.
 

DarkVctry

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Here we go folks troll number 1. I would dissect this but i'll break it down for him. I just started using it for a week, and stopped Crinagen while on it. Im going to keep everybody posted through-out the treatment. Oh dear I might of just fed a troll but oh well.
 

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Now why do you call me a troll when back on Nov 22 you bumped up a thread basically dumping on Revivogen yourself- saying Crinagen is basically the same thing, only cheaper(see the link in my update above)? Did you get an early Christmas present from them or something?

You'd dissect it, if you could. Even your latest: "I just started using it for a week, and stopped Crinagen while on it"..doesn't add up with what you said above.

But again..those rumors... :twisted:
 

DarkVctry

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Okay again Crinagen works and I already said its almost the exact same formula. I also said the reason behind me trying this experiment is the fact that Ive heard many negative comments about Revivogen and wanted to see for myself. Same reason I heard negative comments about LLLT, so basically Trolls are steering folks the wrong way. Ive posted before and after pictures of myself with spironolactone and LLLT, ive got nothing to hide. I just find it funny how after starting this thread I predicted the trolls would come and sure enough I shall receive more. It is also a sociological experiment :)

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Also me doing research on a product a few weeks ago has nothing to do with me ordering it and starting my own review. Hell ive heard guys on here claim to get side effects from topical spironolactone but none on finasteride. Ive heard alot of crap on here, and so far the conciseness on these forums is "only big 3, or RU works" That has been the common theme. The minute one guy with proven results from something else steps up they get trolls. So yes I believe Crinagen is a proven treatment along with spironolactone and Azaliac acid.
You know what..maybe I was never going bald ? Could that be a possibility ? Perhaps those 200 hairs was just from breakage ???? I dont know I sure hope so.
 

Jacob

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Predicting and calling someone a troll isn't going to keep ppl away from refuting what you're saying..asking questions, and pointing out how things aren't adding up.. etc. Your main point, as you said, was to debunk those silly little rumors. You did no such thing. Nor have you commented on the other things being brought up. I'm not expecting you to have the answers...but they are just a couple of things that have made me question the company. If their new "Pro" line has the same exact ingredients..that'd be another. But I doubt that's the case.
 

DarkVctry

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Well in 2 more months I will update more on my results. Hey Im starting to think maybe I was never going bald, is that a possibility ?

Maybe in those pictures of me I just had a natural high hairline ? AfterSpiro.jpgBeforeSpiro.jpg What do ya think ? Never balding or just mature hairline.
 

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Now it's time for Troll #2....


you haven't debunked the biggest rumor of all: that Revivogen doesn't work.

(oh wait, that's not a rumor, it's true)



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The minute one guy with proven results from something else steps up they get trolls.

that's because nobody ever gets 'proven results' with anything other than Finasteride or Minoxidil. Some anonymous guy on an internet forum saying 'I smeared onion juice all over my head and it grew all my hair back!! You've got to try it!!' is not proof. Not even remotely


So yes I believe Crinagen is a proven treatment along with spironolactone and Azaliac acid.

neither of those are proven treatments
 

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Now it's time for Troll #2....


you haven't debunked the biggest rumor of all: that Revivogen doesn't work.

(oh wait, that's not a rumor, it's true)



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that's because nobody ever gets 'proven results' with anything other than Finasteride or Minoxidil. Some anonymous guy on an internet forum saying 'I smeared onion juice all over my head and it grew all my hair back!! You've got to try it!!' is not proof. Not even remotely




neither of those are proven treatments

OK..now go crawl back under that hole of your's...


...I say if you're gonna try Revivogen, then at least mico-needle before you apply it...

...I tried the stuff for a while and I will NOT say it is useless...when I micro-needled I had a change in my hair quality, but I hated needling and I hated the oily nature of Revivo...
 

Jacob

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Ok...in an email forwarded to me...they are saying the new "Pro" version has the exact same ingreds list :doh:
 

DarkVctry

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Okay for my trolls out there that say, spironolactone, crinagen, revivogen, and lasers don't work. Riddle me this; in the pictures I just posted..how did my hairline restore ? Did it restore on its own ? Or maybe I was never going bald in the first place ?
 

DarkVctry

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Well after I scared the trolls off about the myths I just debunked, I decided to open up the other 2 bottles. (since the Trolls magically believe I got a special bottle) Well both other bottles smelled the same, and again no stains. So for those that was worried about smell and stains, you need to worry no more.

Also the shedding has still stopped, keep in mind im close to half way into the month. I don't want to get too excited already but we shall see at the 3 month, and 6 month mark.

Also Im going to keep asking this question since no troll can answer haha. By the way this question also debunks those that say "nothing but propecia works"
{Okay for my trolls out there that say, spironolactone, crinagen, revivogen, and lasers don't work. Riddle me this; in the pictures I just posted..how did my hairline restore ? Did it restore on its own ? Or maybe I was never going bald in the first place ? }
 

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I guess I need to repost it..since you did no such thing:

Just because it doesn't stain for you...your current bottle doesn't stink...your hairloss isn't getting worse....you can style your hair with it...doesn't mean all the others who I guess you're calling liars, didn't have those problems/complaints with the product. Between all that and bumping up old Revivogen threads w/out mentioning you already ordered the stuff... :shock: And yet...what you said above doesn't add up. You said you used Crinagen and loved it..even ordered more while in a combat zone(I guess. Btw..I just heard some shots out back..hunters though). Started using it again and spironolactone and a LLLT helmet and things were getting better. Then you jump to debunking the silly Revivogen rumors even though you were using Crinagen..not Revivogen. You researched Revivogen while waiting for- Crinagen. Nowhere did you say you were using Revivogen between the Crinagen or anything.

How about the silly rumor that Revivogen used to brag about some unique liposomal delivery system but after some of us started asking questions(such as- what ingredient(s) exactly make up the liposomes- they couldn't answer that btw) they took that information off their website etc? Or that when asked why they never update the product(I wonder about this with many products/companies) with all the new stuff out there they could add or even replace current ingreds with- I was told there's no need to change the product, it works that good! And yet about half a year later they updated it..with I think- caffeine.

Your pictures don't show much. And that was the first time I saw your question.

And in case you missed it- the "Pro" version contains the same, exact..ingreds.
 

DarkVctry

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The pictures on this thread shows a dramatic restoration of my hairline. Hey its okay maybe I am just the only human being that responds to Crinagen, spironolactone, LLLT, and revivogen. I am going to take more pictures, and im also going to take a picture of me using Revivogen since its sooooo hard to believe I own the stuff. You can't deny the results of the photos and that is where I have proven myself. My photos speaks for itself that the regime I have works, UNLESS somehow I was never going bald in the first place.

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ResultsA.jpg This is my hairline 14 months ago ! BeforeSpiro.jpg This was my hairline almost 5 years ago ! Need I say no more ?

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BeforeLLLT.jpg Here is a picture of me around 5 years ago as well....also if you noticed the American Flag ...its apart of the Army uniform...so keep making jokes about hearing gun shots. Ive been to war and if you want to troll about stuff like gunshots please man up and actually serve. ANYHOW....who in here thinks I was never going bald ? Do you think it was just HIGH FLASH and make my hair look thin ? Im being serious here all jokes aside was I ever balding ? Or am I a success story in the making.

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Sparx4444 thanks for the advice on the derma rolling, I believe dermarolling enhances any topical drug for absorption. I would use a derma-roller out here but being in this deployed environment id say its too risky. The water we use here is not even that sanitary, and there is no good way to clean it. Once I get stateside again I do want to experiment with a roller, but not sure how many mm's i should go. 1.5mm seems too drastic.
 

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Yes, you need say no more. The before/afters are two different angles, very different lighten, and very different hair lengths.

Thank you for your service...but it has nothing to do with this Revivogen crap and it doing anything. It was Crinagen you were on anyway...along with other things. And we do hear gun shots back here. Some are my own though.

I cannot believe that this company didn't at least add some things to the "Pro" version. I guess it was so easy to just keep churning out the same formula- 99.9% of folks aren't even going to bother comparing or will run into it for the first time anyway. And I know it's cheaper to do a regular product w/out liposome tech as well...that's if they ever actually used such tech in the past.
 

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Jacob do you think I was ever balding in the first place ??? The picture of me with the uniform on...could that just be bright flash + sunlight ?? That picture was almost 5 years ago now. Im not being a jerk now Im honestly confused, can a bright flash make people look bald or balding if they really arnt ? The reason why I ask is because it shows a "pattern" like on the Norwood scale, and after I took that picture thats when I started doing spironolactone+Crinagen+LLLT.
 

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No..you're definitely thinning there imo. Now once you grew/grow your hair out it'd probably look like you didn't have a problem- many "after" pictures are used to show "results/success" when that's all it is- the hair has gotten longer and it just looks filled in. If they'd shave their hair back to their "before" level...it'd probably look pretty much the same.
 

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tiny blurry amateurish pics like that from one guy prove nothing. To claim that a product regrows hair lost from Androgenetic Alopecia/male pattern baldness (and that's a BIG claim considering the nature of male pattern baldness) it would need to be trialled in rigorous, unbiased, scientific studies by professionals with highly detailed photographic evidence.

only one topical product has ever been proven to do that, and even it has several drawbacks.


and if you were never balding in the first place then how come you claim to have 'restored' your hairline? Hmmmm..... kind of contradicting yourself there
 

DarkVctry

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Look there are days where a friend takes a picture of me for their stupid facebook or something, or even a family photo...and when I see the picture my self esteem drops. Usually pictures with a really high flash, or some type of crazy lighting. Yes I'm in great physical shape, I have a great career, financially I consider myself stable. However all of that is in my "control" dealing with hair-loss sometimes makes me depressed man, I am only human. Maybe I just dream that there will be a cure out there....some days I wake up thinking "maybe its all in my head I was never balding" or "maybe it will just stop on its own" It really sucks man, I am turning 32 years old this year, still not married and this stuff annoys me.

I was dating this girl for example and she saw an old photo of me with my old amazing hair from my youth...she made a comment at how amazing my hair was. (she didn't realize that hurt me inside because I no longer have that) So yeah I know im not ugly and I don't want to come off as a depressed guy because Im not. However some-days I get very self conscious, usually days after a relative is taking pictures of me with other family members...and Im thinking to myself "omg my hairline is JACKED !"

Now maybe this whole crazy lighting or high flash photos ALWAYS makes peoples hair look thin. Honestly I never noticed when I was younger, I don't know. To be honest guys going bald scares me because Its difficult to control....I love being in control. I love the fact I can change my weight with diet, or make my skin look healthier with beauty products...but hair-loss....its another animal. I have been using spironolactone/crinagen/laser helmet for along time now...perhaps its the reason why I am maintaining. I don't know I wish I had the answer. I am happy to take more photos though If you guys wish. I am here to just share my story and seek help. Does high flash pictures indicate balding ?
 

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yes you're right - genetic male pattern baldness is one of the few things that we have (virtually) no control over.

It's why people are so desperate that they try all these weird and wacky unproven treatments, or that changing your diet/lifestyle might help, etc -but they're just deluding themselves and setting themselves up for disappointment, as well as wasting money and more importantly time. Time is paramount if you want to treat male pattern baldness, because catching it early is the key. There's no cure, only prevention.

I'm sure you already know what the Big 3 are.
 
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