Is This The Work Of dutasteride? Ill Kick Its *** If It Is

Jonnyyy

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Human body isn't programed to last more than 60-70 years. You can see majority of 70+ people and their health state : pitiful.
Lost of functions,teeth,hair etc is normal it's called aging and this is the beginning of our future death.
Everyone will go through it so it's already seen ;) You won't be a NW1 till you die.
What does your hairline have to do with aging? You can see a 80 year old with a NW0 (My Grandpa) or a 19 year old with a NW3 (me) has nothing to do with age.
 

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Human body isn't programed to last more than 60-70 years. You can see majority of 70+ people and their health state : pitiful.
Lost of functions,teeth,hair etc is normal it's called aging and this is the beginning of our future death.
Everyone will go through it so it's already seen ;) You won't be a NW1 till you die.

Many, including me, would dispute aging as a "normal" state. Unless you're cursed with PPP syndrome.
 

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Many, including me, would dispute aging as a "normal" state

Wut bro ? Aging is unfortunately a perfectly normal biological fact
 

Trichosan

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Wut bro ? Aging is unfortunately a perfectly normal biological fact

I was speaking from the standpoint of longevity theorists. Aging being only the cumulative malfunctions in a complex system. If the inherent repair mechanism is not impaired aging should be nonexistent. We accept aging and death currently as normal. There are organisms and cell cultures, living things that are nearly immortal. Hydras, Hela cells, biological references that scientists hope to duplicate in mammals, humans someday (only 5 more years! ;)). From a practical view, aging can be slowed as I previousy mentioned. So what is "normal" in aging? To die at 95 or 70 if you had made different lifestyle choices? But yes, I get your point, we are still going to age, such as science is today. A thousand years from now, perhaps not. But we'll still be bald. :confused:
 

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If the inherent repair mechanism is not impaired aging should be nonexistent

If even the universe has an end, humans who are nothing in comparison will have too.
Humans can't even cure a flu.
Stop dreamin' bro haha,focus on hair instead.
You can't even control your own brain and body, and you're dare thinking bout "curing age". If you could, you could grow hairs by thoughts. I guess you can right? Age is a normal process nobody is immortal and aging will never be stopped.
But hairloss will !
 

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If even the universe has an end, humans who are nothing in comparison will have too.
Humans can't even cure a flu.
Stop dreamin' bro haha,focus on hair instead.
You can't even control your own brain and body, and you're dare thinking bout "curing age". If you could, you could grow hairs by thoughts. I guess you can right? Age is a normal process nobody is immortal and aging will never be stopped.
But hairloss will !
Im sure even aging will be stopped, not in our lifetimes though.
 

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lol @champpy ; are you trolling man!!! you are Norwood -1 !
seriously dude .
No sides on dutasteride ?
My loss is mostly diffuse but more so in the back of the head and around the temples. Here's a picture with my hair combed back and you can see how thin it is. It wont stand up anymore because theres not enough density, it just falls limp like this. The back of my head is worse than the front.
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Keep in mind the 3 of the 5 bulbs in my bathroom are out so this lighting helps.
I know ive been lucky and dont have it as bad as others, but its because i was proactive about it. My dad and both grandfaters were bald. BALD. i know i would be to if i didnt take action.I have pictures from 10 years ago where my hair looks probably close to how it does now. I jumped on finasteride and I think there was a little progress because I believe it got somewhat thicker overtime but it has since regressed again.
 

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A few years ago i could use gel and sh*t to comb my hair back and you couldn't see any scalp. There has been definite loss
 

champpy

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Just get off dutasteride?
I tried man. When i first started dutasteride my sex drive went sky high. It stayed like that for a long time. When i tried to quit it was horrible. I had no desire for sex at all. It was like my testosterone had dropped to nothing
 

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One thing is for sure hair is a pretty big thing for a guy with how old you look. Having that teenage perfect hair line can make a 40 year old look like they are 20. Once it goes even small amounts people will treat your differently as you look a lot older.
 

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Like hairloss, there is no magic bullet. Lifestyle, a few Rx meds, nutritional supplements, genetic analysis, blood tests. Caloric restriction, high intensity interval training, Mediterranean diet, metformin, telomerase activators, review alleles for defects and correct with meds or supplements, review blood work periodically and correct deficiencies. Don't drink, don't smoke, meditate, get 7-8 hours of good sleep every night. And yes, current science on antiaging is like topicals for hairloss-it's blown away by the power of nature's genetic design.

I disagree completely with this. I have seen Norwood 1 life long heavy smokers at old age. You take all men that have varying life styles, blood types, caloric intakes, exercise routines, and you give them all finasteride. 85 percent of them keep most or all their hair. Some regrow hair despite all these different environmental factors what other evidence is there that its almost purely androgen controlled? Your not changing anything else except removing DHT significantly, and that alone gets these crazy results that last decades for some men.
I just realized your talking about aging and not male pattern baldness. Tons of people claim this that life style dictates male pattern baldness with things like the twin study.
 

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You're 42, which IS old. Basically, that's how it works - you look relatively young through your 30's, and then you hit your 40's, and you don't look young anymore. And don't expect it to get better - this is a one-way ride, friend, and there's no going back.

I wont argue aging, but I have seen 40 year old men that literally could pass for 19. Its all relative, but its possible to still have perfect hair at 40.
I will say this IMO I think if your hair is at all sensitive to androgens then it never stops getting more and more sensitive as you get older. So eventually for most men that sensitivity overpowers finasteride or dutasteride. Maybe its the testosterone we dont know really.
 

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Anyway yeah you used to have perfect hair for a 36 year old. Just keep on dutasteride or maybe add RU to that thinning spot. I wouldnt give up trying 42 is definately not past the point of no return. There are men in their 50s like reagan that had nearly perfect hair so I just dont buy this aging theory. Eventually though yes maybe if your 60+ its hard to avoid. The issue is just our understanding of male pattern baldness is so primitive we just dont know anything
 

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I took them both simultaneously so i could hit every angle. I don't think it worked
 

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First of all the photos are terrible in quality (cant even see aging signs or skin quality on them), its a photo of a screen? Your frowning on the 1st one which makes those wrinkles appear.
I hardly see a difference in those pics i think you’re worrying for nothing .. i have pictures were i look 20 and pictures looking like 35 all within the same week haha.
Stop worrying too much man and 40 is nothing yet :)
 

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First of all the photos are terrible in quality (cant even see aging signs or skin quality on them), its a photo of a screen? Your frowning on the 1st one which makes those wrinkles appear.
I hardly see a difference in those pics i think you’re worrying for nothing .. i have pictures were i look 20 and pictures looking like 35 all within the same week haha.
Stop worrying too much man and 40 is nothing yet :)
Thanks for that. Yes the first two pics were photos taken by my phone from my laptop screen. I know its horrible quality, and it being blurred like that actually makes me look better lol.
I feel like a b**ch for complaing to you guys about this. Ive been very lucky to hold on as long as i have. Its just ive been used to looking a certain way for roughly 40 yrs and within 2 years its all going fast. And at this point, even if a cure for Androgenetic Alopecia is discovered, i dont know if it would help age related loss too. Could be two different mechanisms.
Anyway i cut my hair a little last night so ill try to get a shot of the back of my head later tonight and post it
 
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