Is this a feasible regime? 3 liquid topicals...

Mens Rea

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It seems i cant take finasteride so for any long term success (im nw3-3.5 diffuse but can conceal well with toppick and carefully styled hair) i need to really take my topical regime serious

15% minoxidil (might downgrade to 5% though) = NB, already on this.
2% spironolactone liquid
Revivogen


along with Keto and Alpecin shampoos


The addition of topical spironolactone and revivogen seems like my only option. I do have 4 bottles of nanominox -fms but am worried about my sex drive that a year of finasteride tablets has damaged so think ill just revert to ordinary minoxidil again.

Check out this link - http://www.hairlosstalk.com/hair-loss-t ... actone.php I think its been discussed on other threads also


Opinions? Experiences?
 

nickypoos

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If you cannot take any orals, your doing the most you can.

You can always introduce fluridil, or even ru58841 if your serious about saving your hair in the long-term.
 

Todd

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Pretty decent regiment IMO. Adding fluridil or RU would maybe maintain even better, although with spironolactone, revivogen and keto already in the mix, I don´t know if it will make much of a difference... Couldn´t hurt anyway.

Side effects sucks, but you could try soy isoflavones and the whole "equol"- diet thing. Lowers DHT, but does so without interfering with Alpha reductase, some say. That stuff is pretty experimental, though, and doesn´t yet have any results as far as I know.
Soy and capsaicin have also shown, in one study, to promote hair growth, but I´ve never heard of any success from it on any forum.
 

Hoppi

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Go for it :) - minoxidil, spironolactone (or RU), Revivogen, optionally fluridil. If you want a safer finasteride alternative I would recommend Densiti followed by beta-sitosterol followed by borage oil, or a combo of them of some sort!

Good luck dude :)
 

Mens Rea

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Thanks guys will look into your recommendations

I think ive found something to avoid me having to take revivogen - its called "lipogaine". Basically minoxidil+ revivogen. Looks very promising.


As regards the spironolactone, im worried 2% is a futile effort though? cream (5%) over a diffused scalp just isn't feasible though surely? ;/


whats the consensus on fluridil? never heard much about it to be honest..


Hoppi and TOdd, have you guys tried this "equol" thing then? Im curious about it.

Id literally try anything if i was sure it was worth it
 

Todd

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Colin297 said:
Thanks guys will look into your recommendations

I think ive found something to avoid me having to take revivogen - its called "lipogaine". Basically minoxidil+ revivogen. Looks very promising.


As regards the spironolactone, im worried 2% is a futile effort though? cream (5%) over a diffused scalp just isn't feasible though surely? ;/


whats the consensus on fluridil? never heard much about it to be honest..


Hoppi and TOdd, have you guys tried this "equol" thing then? Im curious about it.

Id literally try anything if i was sure it was worth it

Fluridil is a topical anti androgen, sold under the name Eucapil. It´s made in a chemical vehicle that degrades it if it comes in contact with water; thus making it the safest anti androgen by far. Unlike spironolactone, which I´ve only really seen one experimental (and really poor designed) study on; Eucapil is well tried and tested through clinical trials, with good results on 80% of all users.
No comparative studies have been done, however, so I can´t really say if it´s more or less effective than minoxidil. Users claim it´s biggest effect is to halt shedding, apparently i does so within the first month. The following three months thickening is usually seen. However, only a small percentage (20% or something) claims regrowth.

IMO; it´s better as a maintainer than a re- grower (for growth, minoxidil is the way to go)

Interestingly enough; eucapil´s effect was only seen in about 40% of users that used it in combination with other treatments. My guess as to why is that the water in other topical treatments degrades eucapil, thus negating the effect. Either that or the added effect of a mantainer does not give a significant contribution when used toghether w minoxidil in most users.

EDIT: Don´t really know that much about equol; but I can imagine Hoppi does ;)
 

Mens Rea

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thanks for the info ive been readin a bit about fluridi now, its seems like a reasonable product. most DHT blockers/detachers tend to carry risk of side effects which worry me considering any regime requires long term feasibility, so i like this.

Someone on here posted that they intended to get their supplies from elsewhere to save money (as opposed to buyin it off Eucapil) - are you aware of any such suppliers?
 

Todd

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I wish, dude.
Contemplating this stuff myself, but yeah, it´s expensive all right.
spironolactone is cheap, though...
 

Mens Rea

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Cost is obviously a pain in the *** but honestly if you told me i could maintain my hair with $100 a month id happily pay it. Its just the unknown and the trial and error that is the hurtful part and of course bad poor results

i really dont know if my diffuse hair loss can be controlled at all tbh
 
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