Is Neutrogena T-Gel a mild antiandrogen?

[treadstone]

Saw that on wikipedia it says T-Gel has limited antiandrogen effects, but it's not cited and seems unsubstantiated as far as I'm concerned. Has anyone else heard about this?

 

[FreeloaderUK]

if ur gonna use a shampoo then nizoral is the way to go.

 

[treadstone]

That doesn't really address the question - and I use Nizoral already anyways.

 

[Sean68]

id say 'limited' is about right. i think id still take finasteride with it like.

 

[treadstone]

id say 'limited' is about right. i think id still take finasteride with it like.

Do you have a source/citation? I'm just curious where this belief is cropping up from. I think it'd be great if it is.

 

[Sean68]

ha no i tried to intonate that it probably wont do anything as an anti-androgen. its only a shampoo and you probably dont use it everyday. have you just started your regimen?

mild generally = not much good.

 

[treadstone]

Nah I've been on it for about 10-11 months. I've always used T/Gel (along with nizoral), but mainly for its anti-inflammatory benefits. I saw the mention of mild antiandrogen effects on the wiki page and was curious if there was any truth to it.

 

[Sean68]

well you know more than me about it then. there isnt a shampoo that can really make a difference in stopping loss...maybe nano for some people but the main benefit is in facilitating the other main products to work better. i wouldnt read a lot into the wiki claim personally.

 

[pproctor]

T-Gel is effective in the treatment of seborrheic dermatitis. Agents that treat seb derm generally have some activity in androgenic alopecia.

The earliest reference I can find to this is in the works of the 1st century physican Dioscorides, who mentions treating balding with "tar", which is basically what is in T-Gel. So, it has been known for a long time. It is generally not a big effect, but a real one.

E.g., In the Propecia clinical trial, both wings were treated with T-Gel to minimize the effect of seborrheic dermatis on pattern loss.

Peter H. Proctor, PhD,MD

 

[treadstone]

Thanks! That is good to know.

 

[bandm]

So between nizoral and t-gel, which one is better for seborrheic dermatite?

 

[pproctor]

"So between nizoral and t-gel, which one is better for seborrheic dermatite?"

Nobody really knows for sure. But a principle in medicine says to treat the disease if you can rather than the symptoms. On this measure, nizoral, which kills the fungus that causes/plays a role in seborrheic dermatitis, is a better treatment than T-Gel.

Peter H. Proctor, PhD,MD

 

[bandm]

I think i have seborrheic deramtite, because of the flakes, the redness and the itchy, and i am using nizoral but i don't think it is enough.
Before nizoral, i had some problems with dandruff but it's over now. Now i need to get rid of itchy and the redness

 

[Sean68]

dr proctor - do you want to join our fantasy football league? theres a link in the off topic section.

 

[medmax84]

"So between nizoral and t-gel, which one is better for seborrheic dermatite?"

Nobody really knows for sure. But a principle in medicine says to treat the disease if you can rather than the symptoms. On this measure, nizoral, which kills the fungus that causes/plays a role in seborrheic dermatitis, is a better treatment than T-Gel.

Peter H. Proctor, PhD,MD

What do you think of DOs, Dr. Proctor?

Isn't it true that anti-fungals often are damaging to human cells, because the targets of antifungals are often similar in structure to human/animal/eukaryotic cells?

 

[treadstone]

On a T/Gel related note, why is it so important (says on the bottle) to keep it away from direct sunlight?

And if it's so important, why don't they tint the bottle or just make it a solid black? :dunno: