İs here a direct linkage between sebum and Finasteride?

[Stefan_88]

Hi guys;

i used to have so many sebum on my skin and hairs. i was not able to stand with it, therefore, i had to wait my hairs 2-3 times a day.

However, i end up my first year with Finasteride, hence, i dont have any sebum on my skin or hairs. My hairs can stay dry for days long.

Firstly, i find this incredbile, then i thought there is a direct linkage between them, as i didnt use anything to treat sebum and i had this sebum problem for 2 years.

Anyone knows something about this?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Armando Jose]

Finasteride mainly acts trought 5 alfa reductase tipe 2, and sebaceous gland make sebum with the 5 alfa reductase type 1. said this, it is posiible that prolonged tiem of use of finasteride decrease sebum production.
There is another question, is there a direct linkage between sebum and hairloss? Your coment could be interesting.

 

[Stefan_88]

Firstly, Sebum effected my hairs negatively. it was interesting, as i didnt have visible hair loss or hair thining prior to sebum, whenever i had sebum, my hairs started to thin and hair loss increased much.

i also asked it to a dermatologist, She said that Sebum and hair loss has an linkage, therefore, sebum can cause hair loss.

 

[Exodus2011]

dam im not sure tbh

could be just coincidence, the process of hair loss causes sebum to come out but the sebum itself isnt responsible for anything

pretty girl in the avatar, who is it if i may ask?

 

[Quadzilla99]

Firstly, Sebum effected my hairs negatively. it was interesting, as i didnt have visible hair loss or hair thining prior to sebum, whenever i had sebum, my hairs started to thin and hair loss increased much.

i also asked it to a dermatologist, She said that Sebum and hair loss has an linkage, therefore, sebum can cause hair loss.

Yeah, this is one of the reasons why dandruff shampoos work so well for hair loss afaik:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=146477063&p=915434223&viewfull=1#post915434223

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interac...al-2-or-both?p=1096982&viewfull=1#post1096982

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Here's some good discussions on sebum and hair loss:

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/showthread.php/46071-Ugh-Sebum!?highlight=sebum

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interac...ing-stimulate-even-MORE-sebum?highlight=sebum

 

[Beingbaldsucksass]

I have severe saboreha for over 3 years, I read that lack of biotin is one of major reasons to it so I'm trying taking as much as I could now

 

[Armando Jose]

Firstly, Sebum effected my hairs negatively. it was interesting, as i didnt have visible hair loss or hair thining prior to sebum, whenever i had sebum, my hairs started to thin and hair loss increased much.

i also asked it to a dermatologist, She said that Sebum and hair loss has an linkage, therefore, sebum can cause hair loss.

Are you dermatogist a medical doctor?
I don't talk in a derogatory manner, but rather because it is unusual in medical lobist.
OTOH, I personally believe that sebum is the initial factor triggering the process

 

[Stefan_88]

dam im not sure tbh

could be just coincidence, the process of hair loss causes sebum to come out but the sebum itself isnt responsible for anything

pretty girl in the avatar, who is it if i may ask?

Monika Jac Jagaciak, Polish Supermodel. My favourite supermodel whom i met last year.

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Are you dermatogist a medical doctor?
I don't talk in a derogatory manner, but rather because it is unusual in medical lobist.
OTOH, I personally believe that sebum is the initial factor triggering the process

First off, im an economist. Second off,i asked this sebum problem to 3-4 dermatologist, they all said the different things.

 

[resu]

From what I read before, excess sebum can be a symptom of male pattern baldness but not the cause. I use a brush to keep out every bit of dandruff off the scalp as well as use T/Gel and soon I'm going to add Tea Tree oil, it works in keeping the itch to an absolute minimum.

 

[abcdefg]

I agree I think sebum is just what you see after the hair miniaturizes but the oil glands are still active making the normal amount of oils which just accumulate because the normal hair is then tiny.

 

[Armando Jose]

Sorry Stephan, english is not my mother language.... shhhhh
my question was: are YOUR dematologist,...?

Excuse, I lost the "r".

I undestand; different opinions with differetn doctors,

 

[Bryan]

...OTOH, I personally believe that sebum is the initial factor triggering the process

I know that's what you believe, Armando, but that doesn't make any sense. Individuals with CAIS (Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome) don't produce sebum at all, yet they have luxurious scalp hair.

 

[abcdefg]

It does seem like a lot of men have seb derm that also have male pattern baldness like that itch many people such as myself get. I have read though that seb derm can be caused by hormonal changes such as an increase in androgens much like what would trigger hair loss I guess? What is the difference between sebum, dandruff and seb derm?

 

[Exodus2011]

Monika Jac Jagaciak, Polish Supermodel. My favourite supermodel whom i met last year.

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First off, im an economist. Second off,i asked this sebum problem to 3-4 dermatologist, they all said the different things.

haha awesome. she is beautiful

 

[LawOfThelema]

Finasteride mainly acts trought 5 alfa reductase tipe 2, and sebaceous gland make sebum with the 5 alfa reductase type 1. said this, it is posiible that prolonged tiem of use of finasteride decrease sebum production.
There is another question, is there a direct linkage between sebum and hairloss? Your coment could be interesting.

It is unlikely that there is a causal relation between sebum and Androgenetic Alopecia. Sebum does not cause Androgenetic Alopecia, and Androgenetic Alopecia does no cause sebum.

More likely the third factor - ANDROGENIC STIMULUS - is causing them both. Only one I could possibly see is that sebum could harbor fungal populations that can contribute to scalp inflammation, dermatitis, or dandruff. I have seen in some reviews of dandruff and Androgenetic Alopecia that it is speculated dandruff may exasperate androgenetic alopecia. But I doubt it'd make or break the progression of your condition.

i also asked it to a dermatologist, She said that Sebum and hair loss has an linkage, therefore, sebum can cause hair loss.

She needs a course in logic and the methodology of the sciences. Two factors can be 100% linked statistically -- they could co-occur with a probability of unity and not be causally related. In such cases, a third factor or set of factors could be giving rise to both.

 

[abcdefg]

I think androgens could be the cause of both seb derm/dandruff/sebum and hair loss I mean scalp conditions like these are more common in men so maybe there is a missing link somewhere.

 

[Stefan_88]

i had no hair problems until my sebum problem starts. Then, my hairs started to thin quickly, Likewise, i lost many hairs in the first 6 months with sebum problem.

Let me tell you my first progress, i had a little bit problem on my temples, i didnt have any problem except temples. My hairs were awesome at that time.After that, i went to a doctor, he prescibed me a B2 Dimer %1 solution.

i used this solution once a day for 4.5 months, i had great re-growth at temples. then i gave up using the solution.

Regarding the end of first month after i gave up using the solution, i had so much oiling and sebum on my face and hairs. For instance, i was washing my hairs and my face, my hairs and face becomes oily after 15-20 mins after the shower i was shedding so much hairs every day. i went to a doctor, he said that the solution that i used made my androgens receptors sensitive.

 

[Armando Jose]

Stephan's case is more real, in my opinion, than CAIS, .... the word "complete" in androgen insensitivity "grinds" my neurons. I really doubt his existence....

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I think androgens could be the cause of both seb derm/dandruff/sebum and hair loss I mean scalp conditions like these are more common in men so maybe there is a missing link somewhere.

The link could be the trigger of the process, the initial cause,

 

[Beingbaldsucksass]

Does a seb releted hairloss can be cured compleatly if the seb is over?

 

[Armando Jose]

Does a seb releted hairloss can be cured compleatly if the seb is over?

Cure is impossible if you only address the sebum issue because it is only the first step in the hairloss, if you solve the problem sebum you'll achieve a real prevention method, but not the cure